Fantasy Jellal and Laxus vs Irene

Who Wins

  • Laxus and Jellal

    Votes: 23 46.0%
  • Irene

    Votes: 24 48.0%
  • Jellal and Laxus

    Votes: 24 48.0%
  • Dragon Irene

    Votes: 20 40.0%

  • Total voters
    50

Orphan Prince

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Laxus

And Jellal



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Irene Belserion

Irene Belserion Dragon Form



Scenario
Irene is going after Erza and before she finds her she runs into Jellal and Laxus, she's bored and decides to use them to entertain herself

Location
Kardia Cathedral

Distance
40 Feet

Intent for Jellal and Laxus
To kill

Intent for Irene
To kill boredom

Restrictions
Fairy Law
Enchantment on the body (What she did to Hisui) all other enchantment is allowed

Round 2
Irene decides to take it seriously and turns into a dragon to kill the duo as fast as possible.

Intent (both parties)
To kill

Distance
40 feet

Location
Ruined Kardia Cathedral

Restrictions
Fairy Law
Enchantment on the body (What she did to Hisui) all other enchantment is allowed

Jellal and Laxus are fresh after each round

Irene keeps any damage she takes in Round 1 (Let's be fair for Laxus and Jellal and give them this advantage)
 
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Orphan, you have no idea what you have started.

Oh yeah, the arguments that are going to take place on the August Irene threads are gonna be insane.

Love that popcorn gif.
 

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Laxus or Jellol solo human Eileen. Human Eileen is x792 Erza tier

Laxus one shots dragon Eileen faster than Erza with DS magic did, Jellol just needs to make sure that Laxus lands a clean blow on Eileen.

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You've got to allow multiple choices for your poll
 
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Irene nodiffs both rounds
Irene is Acno tier
Irene can solo entire world with all dragon gods
Irene is stronger than Zeref
Irene never got beaten by Erza


Still nodiffs those two
 

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Completely wrong based on feats
Based on feats Irene just stood and allowed Erza to attack her several times, she spent huge amount of mp to hold enchantment on country and million soldiers, catch a meteor from SPACE and still after all that she was stood victorious. Based on feats Irene >>> August >>> Gildarts >>> Laxus >> Jellal >> Erza

Even a thought that Irene could lose to someone Erza lvl - is soooo crap
 
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Based on feats Irene just stood and allowed Erza to attack her several times, she spent huge amount of mp to hold enchantment on country and million soldiers, catch a meteor from SPACE and still after all that she was stood victorious. Based on feats Irene >>> August

Even a thought that Irene could lose to someone Erza lvl - is soooo crap
She stood there and allowed Erza to attack, only once. That was due to shock of Erza destroying her meteor. Every other instance of Erza landing a blow, was blows she earned in combat

Enchanting a million soldiers doesn't help in this case. That just means that she's an awesome utility mage, which is pointless when she is solo.

Based on feats, human Eileen got overwhelmed by Erza and Wendy. Then by Erza solo, against. In before "Eileen held back" , yeah no. Eileen was livid and screeching in the 2nd round against Erza, unless you're gonna tell me angry Eileen held back, Erza overwhelmed human Eileen clean.

By feats, dragon Eileen got one shot by Erza with DS magic.
By feats, dragon Eileen's sema got destroyed by Erza. How do you think meteors are summoned? Obviously they're caught from space, no shit. Why is it relevant for in a vs battle?

August got hit by Gildarts' strongest attack without immunity, and completely tanked it. This + his magic immunity + him instantly mastering any spell he notices >> anything Eileen can muster. Hell, August can copy her enchantment and use it against her. Human Eileen doesn't have the stats to compete against him, dragon Eileen gets rekt by August because he copies DS magic

It's not just a thought, when it literally happened. Eileen was barely standing when she decided to off herself. Even if you argue that Eileen would've won if she didn't kill herself, it would've been an extreme diff win.
 
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Irene is nowhere close to Acnologia's level, every one of the god dragons would stomp her, and she isn't stronger than Zeref. While it is true that Irene was never defeated, Erza and Wendy gave her an extreme difficulty fight. They broke her strongest enchantment and defeated her dragon form. Irene was hanging on by a thread towards the end.

I won't get into Irene vs August here, but Laxus and Jellal are strictly stronger than Erza and Wendy. They stand a decent change of at least taking down Irene's dragon form.
 

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Irene is nowhere close to Acnologia's level, every one of the god dragons would stomp her, and she isn't stronger
False. According to Acnologia (who's a universal being), Irene's MP is "impressive" so that by default is planetary. She stomps the 5 DGS at the same time.

I'm trolling by the way.
 

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Even if you argue that Eileen would've won if she didn't kill herself, it would've been an extreme diff win.
Irene would have won if she just randomly kill Erza like ant, like she can do against almost anyone cuz her mp >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> others. She can morph people into anything, she can blow their magic like some green guy from anime, she can make them magicless, which should kill them too, she can enchant a freaking garbage into real person with magic, and I think - any magic, so she doesnt even need to fight, she can create her own Marin and he nodiffs Erza.
And yes, I think her mp much larger than August's, so his copying wouldnt do shit to her
 
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Irene smacks them both. Jellal is fodder and she doesn't have any emotional attachment to Laxus so he gets his magic stripped, matter manipulated, and so on.
 

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Irene would have won if she just randomly kill Erza like ant, like she can do against almost anyone cuz her mp >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> others. She can morph people into anything, she can blow their magic like some green guy from anime, she can make them magicless, which should kill them too, she can enchant a freaking garbage into real person with magic, and I think - any magic, so she doesnt even need to fight, she can create her own Marin and he nodiffs Erza.
And yes, I think her mp much larger than August's, so his copying wouldnt do shit to her
All headcanon, she did none of that to Erza. Doing it to fodder princess doesn't extrapolate to Erza.

You're wrong about Eileen's mp being above August as well, let alone >>
They're on the same tier in mp, with August having an edge

You have no argument. All you wrote here is headcanon and baseless statements. Portrayal and feats disagree with you, period.
 

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Irene and August rivaled each other in human form. Dragon Form amps her magic into new levels therefore her MP >>> August.

Extreme diff means Irene had no more magic power or couldn't fight anymore but neither were the case as she literally was not shown to be taxed mp wise nor was she shown to be down after the fight.

I also forgot that Wendy B < 1% of Irene's residual magic. Wendy couldn't even access 1% of Irene's residual magic and thought that was her magics limit until Irene took over so that means Wendy couldn't access more than that power while in Irene's body. Same Wendy B toyed with Erza and stomped her. PIS Erza >>>> non PIS Erza which was the Erza who fought Laxus as well lol.

Irene stomps. Only one person in the guild can fight top tiers and that is Natsu in DF.
 

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August is the strongest spriggan, he is Eileen's superior, or at worst her equal, no forms or abilities are excluded. Bloodlusted Human Eileen was matched by Erza, she needed her dragon form to compete.

The duo win, Laxus & Jellal>Erza and Wendy, especially when it comes to dragon slaying. Jellal also has the defenses to block Eileen's claw swipe unlike Erza, so they should get away without any broken bones too.
 

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August is the strongest spriggan, he is Eileen's superior, or at worst her equal, no forms or abilities are excluded. Bloodlusted Human Eileen was matched by Erza, she needed her dragon form to compete.

The duo win, Laxus & Jellal>Erza and Wendy, especially when it comes to dragon slaying. Jellal also has the defenses to block Eileen's claw swipe unlike Erza, so they should get away without any broken bones too.
This exactly.

There is no way Jellol or LAxus wouldn't solo her human form, when x792 Erza was overwhelming human Eileen

Irene and August rivaled each other in human form. Dragon Form amps her magic into new levels therefore her MP >>> August.
The top brass of the empire knew Eileen's secret, and August was still considered the top dog.
August >= dragon Eileen, and >> human Eileen

Extreme diff means Irene had no more magic power or couldn't fight anymore but neither were the case as she literally was not shown to be taxed mp wise nor was she shown to be down after the fight.
Eileen was barely able to stand by the end of her fight. So yea, it was extreme diff


I also forgot that Wendy B < 1% of Irene's residual magic. Wendy couldn't even access 1% of Irene's residual magic and thought that was her magics limit until Irene took over so that means Wendy couldn't access more than that power while in Irene's body. Same Wendy B toyed with Erza and stomped her. PIS Erza >>>> non PIS Erza which was the Erza who fought Laxus as well lol.
Wrong
1. Wendy Belserion who fought Erza was 100% of what Eileen could do in Wendy's body. Wendy Belserion never toyed with Erza, Erza didn't go offensive because it was Wendy's body. Considering Erza overwhelmed bloodlusted human Eileen, Wendy Belserion would've got rekt if Erza got serious.
2. Wendy, using Eileen's powers, wasn't able to use 1% of her powers, because she's inexperienced. When Eileen took over, she used all her residual magic power. How much percentage this is, we don't know.


Irene stomps. Only one person in the guild can fight top tiers and that is Natsu in DF.
Based on feats:
- Anyone on or above x792 Erza level can solo human Eileen
- Anyone on or above x792 Erza, and with DS magic, can one shot dragon Eileen. Though, if you're arguing on pure stats, I'l agree that dragon Eileen is above anyone in the guild who's not DF Natsu
 

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This exactly.

There is no way Jellol or LAxus wouldn't solo her human form, when x792 Erza was overwhelming human Eileen



The top brass of the empire knew Eileen's secret, and August was still considered the top dog.
August >= dragon Eileen, and >> human Eileen


Eileen was barely able to stand by the end of her fight. So yea, it was extreme diff




Wrong
1. Wendy Belserion who fought Erza was 100% of what Eileen could do in Wendy's body. Wendy Belserion never toyed with Erza, Erza didn't go offensive because it was Wendy's body. Considering Erza overwhelmed bloodlusted human Eileen, Wendy Belserion would've got rekt if Erza got serious.
2. Wendy, using Eileen's powers, wasn't able to use 1% of her powers, because she's inexperienced. When Eileen took over, she used all her residual magic power. How much percentage this is, we don't know.



Based on feats:
- Anyone on or above x792 Erza level can solo human Eileen
- Anyone on or above x792 Erza, and with DS magic, can one shot dragon Eileen. Though, if you're arguing on pure stats, I'l agree that dragon Eileen is above anyone in the guild who's not DF Natsu
Only Zeref knew Irene was a Dragon and Brandish already stated Irene rivaled August without even knowing she was a Dragon. We then get further proof as they are compared to each other multiple times while Irene was in human form. Being the leader of the squad =/= strongest lol. Also his loyalty is the reason he was placed as the leader of the S12. By logic Irene's true MP >>> August as her mp while sealed in human form is equal to August.

1. What are you talking about? Wendy B < Irene's 1% of residual magic as Wendy in Irene's body fodderized Wendy B lol. Erza was serious and was fodderized into the ground. She literally came at her with a punch and was easily reacted to and put down. She then tried again with a sword and Irene literally reacted to her lol.
2. Her inexperience is the reason why she won't be able to access more than 1% of her residual magic in Irene's body lol. That means Irene M beat Wendy with less than 1% of her residual magic power which is far less than her actual MP lol.

Based on feats they can't. Erza failed to beat Irene who was holding back and allowing them free shots. Erza would have had her magic stripped two seconds into the fight along with Wendy had Irene fought seriously. PIS/PoF was also a major factor in Erza holding out so long (same PoF allowed her to slam RoT Acno out of the sky lol) and Laxus only tied with a non PoF Erza.

Irene's magic and stats are above everyone in the guild bar DF Natsu.
 
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irene extreme low diff

erza couldnt land one hit on her without some distraction happening. enhanced erza is faster than laxus. and irene can also enhance herself. human irene will beat the living daylight out of laxus. jellal really cant do anything here, other than block one or two thing.

dragon irene is on a whole different level. she easily tank laxus strongest ds hit and kills laxus with one hit. and then falls asleep. jellal can wander around i guess
 

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irene extreme low diff

erza couldnt land one hit on her without some distraction happening. enhanced erza is faster than laxus. and irene can also enhance herself. human irene will beat the living daylight out of laxus. jellal really cant do anything here, other than block one or two thing.

dragon irene is on a whole different level. she easily tank laxus strongest ds hit and kills laxus with one hit. and then falls asleep. jellal can wander around i guess
There was zero distraction after Wendy went down. Erza overwhelmed bloodlusted human Eileen solo.

Erza wasn't enchanted, only her sword was. That too just with DS magic. If she can one shot dragon Eileen, so will Laxus
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Only Zeref knew Irene was a Dragon and Brandish already stated Irene rivaled August without even knowing she was a Dragon. We then get further proof as they are compared to each other multiple times while Irene was in human form. Being the leader of the squad =/= strongest lol. Also his loyalty is the reason he was placed as the leader of the S12. By logic Irene's true MP >>> August as her mp while sealed in human form is equal to August.

1. What are you talking about? Wendy B < Irene's 1% of residual magic as Wendy in Irene's body fodderized Wendy B lol. Erza was serious and was fodderized into the ground. She literally came at her with a punch and was easily reacted to and put down. She then tried again with a sword and Irene literally reacted to her lol.
2. Her inexperience is the reason why she won't be able to access more than 1% of her residual magic in Irene's body lol. That means Irene M beat Wendy with less than 1% of her residual magic power which is far less than her actual MP lol.

Based on feats they can't. Erza failed to beat Irene who was holding back and allowing them free shots. Erza would have had her magic stripped two seconds into the fight along with Wendy had Irene fought seriously. PIS/PoF was also a major factor in Erza holding out so long (same PoF allowed her to slam RoT Acno out of the sky lol) and Laxus only tied with a non PoF Erza.

Irene's magic and stats are above everyone in the guild bar DF Natsu.
This is just headcanon and you know it. August >= Eileen, period.

1. Wendy Belserion <1% Eileen? Based on what? Just because Wendy couldn't access it, doesn't mean Eileen in Wendy's body couldn't. We saw the difference the moment Eileen took over. Nope, Erza wasn't serious because it was Wendy's body. The fact that Erza overwhelmed human Eileen proves that she wasn't serious against WB (combine that also the fact that Wendy in Eileen's body, who's < human Eileen, overwhelmed WB), if the reasoning that it was Wendy's body wasn't good enough
2. Dude.. That 1% statement was specifically meant for Wendy alone. When Eileen took over, whatever remaining power was used up, that wasn't 1%

Eileen allowed free shot only once, and it was because she got shocked at Erza shattering her meteor. The rest was Erza, or Erza + Wendy, straight up earning it.
After Wendy went down, Erza overwhelmed bloodlusted human Eileen, don't tell me she held back too
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@Axiomus
What do you think of the 1% statement?
 
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