Canon Magellan goes through SHP gauntlet

[King Moe]

I know, but moe keep insisting that anime fillers to be used here too. So I applied the same logic for zoro but well we know moe doesn't accept any zoro feats.

Anyway, i see magellan beating sanji here. Once his RS got infected with the poison, then sanji would have to fight without it. And most of sanji attacks are close ranged so he is prone to get in contact with magellan's poison. Sanji loses here.

I am talking anime having canon fillers in arcs, not movie fillers. Your the one who brought up the movies when we all know Oda doesn't confirmed them as canon (Except maybe Strong World on the lore and maybe Z and Stampede) like he does on anime. Recently he even give word to extend backstory of Oden and Roger and Whitebeard fight, so there are parts in Anime that can be canon by him.

Let go of insecurities when it's clear Zoro is getting beaten just like he was by rust guy as he is in clear disadvantage as he can't handle his weapons melting as well poison. He doesn't have anything to defend himself like Sanji with either his fire or RS to protect him. Not to mention Sanji's speed and power best over more on Magellen given unpredictability unlike Zoro who he already defeated Shiryu a swordsmen prior to know how he works. Zoro loses hard while Sanji get more easy fight in this, just how it is especially Zoro doesn't work well with tricky opponents as fight with Apoo shows.

 

[Grandmaster Woro]

I am talking anime having canon fillers in arcs, not movie fillers. Your the one who brought up the movies when we all know Oda doesn't confirmed them as canon (Except maybe Strong World on the lore and maybe Z and Stampede) like he does on anime. Recently he even give word to extend backstory of Oden and Roger and Whitebeard fight, so there are parts in Anime that can be canon by him.

Let go of insecurities when it's clear Zoro is getting beaten just like he was by rust guy as he is in clear disadvantage as he can't handle his weapons melting as well poison. He doesn't have anything to defend himself like Sanji with either his fire or RS to protect him. Not to mention Sanji's speed and power best over more on Magellen given unpredictability unlike Zoro who he already defeated Shiryu a swordsmen prior to know how he works. Zoro loses hard while Sanji get more easy fight in this, just how it is especially Zoro doesn't work well with tricky opponents as fight with Apoo shows.

read back what goldb said, only direct stuff from oda like manga or SBS should be considered here. So your anime stuff is not counted here.

Nah not being insecure, i am just being objective here. Magellan is a better fighter over sanji. Sanji's RS can't protect him. The poison would just get into the armor, just like how the poison can slip into luffy's candle armor. Sanji's one of my favorite characters but he loses here

 

[King Moe]

read back what goldb said, only direct stuff from oda like manga or SBS should be considered here. So your anime stuff is not counted here.

Nah not being insecure, i am just being objective here. Magellan is a better fighter over sanji. Sanji's RS can't protect him. The poison would just get into the armor, just like how the poison can slip into luffy's candle armor. Sanji's one of my favorite characters but he loses here

Yeah, and Oda directly told them to extend stuff in Anime, so if so his word should be taken for allowing certain scenes on that. Not saying everything in Anime is canon, but certain stuff are.

Sanji has fire and RS has shown it can't not even be destory by someone like King, so no way Magellen is destroying it especially by same family who has a poison user on their side and thought on how to defense it against their bodies with RS. Nah, Sanji got more stuff to help him fight off Magellen especially with his fire unlike Zoro who get his swords melted if his blades touch Magellen and he breath in the air or touch corrosive ground. Don't lie on who your favorite is, your got be honest and accept your favorite character Zoro is disadvantage and getting a beating in this overall.

 

[XXGenesis]

Yeah, and Oda directly told them to extend stuff in Anime, so if so his word should be taken for allowing certain scenes on that. Not saying everything in Anime is canon, but certain stuff are.

This whole statement is redundant. You admit something to later deny it.

Anime is Not cannon. It is not the source material. At best you can use the argument that there are scenes that are extended within the anime that are fillers but show a good representation of what happened.....I.E of Horrible Anime content/Fillers Luffy vs Kiado..

Sanji has fire and RS has shown it can't not even be destory by someone like King, so no way Magellen is destroying it especially by same family who has a poison user on their side and thought on how to defense it against their bodies with RS. Nah, Sanji got more stuff to help him fight off Magellen especially with his fire unlike Zoro who get his swords melted if his blades touch Magellen and he breath in the air or touch corrosive ground. Don't lie on who your favorite is, your got be honest and accept your favorite character Zoro is disadvantage and getting a beating in this overall.

Are you making an argument as to why Sanji can beat Magallen...Or doing the Sanji vs Zoro comparison we aren’t suppose to be doing.

Why can’t you Make an argument about Sanji without mentioning Zoro; It’s a very bad complex you have as a fan to constantly try and belittle or detract from another character which you use very twisted perception for, when you don’t have to but still chose to do so. It’s trolling & bait . I just don’t get how a fictional rivalry gets real ppl caught up in such fictional rivalry Lol, it was never that serious lol.

Magallen can only be dealt with by ranged attacks, Covered Physical attacks < G3 & Candle Wax.

Sanji has no way to attack Magallen & survive his poisons. His RS will be eaten, Magallen would take damage but not be K.O Then he really be screwed. Magallen clears Sanji.

He can’t clear Zoro & Luffy. You always butt hurt your favorite character isn’t as strong as you think or like him to be. Pick a different favorite character then. You argue fallacies, twisted logic or bias nonsense with everyone habitually. Relax & have a serious convo about One Piece without The Sanji complex or Zoro hate

 

[King Moe]

This whole statement is redundant. You admit something to later deny it.

Anime is Not cannon. It is not the source material. At best you can use the argument that there are scenes that are extended within the anime that are fillers but show a good representation of what happened.....I.E of Horrible Anime content/Fillers Luffy vs Kiado..




Are you making an argument as to why Sanji can beat Magallen...Or doing the Sanji vs Zoro comparison we aren’t suppose to be doing.

Why can’t you Make an argument about Sanji without mentioning Zoro; It’s a very bad complex you have as a fan to constantly try and belittle or detract from another character which you use very twisted perception for, when you don’t have to but still chose to do so. It’s trolling & bait . I just don’t get how a fictional rivalry gets real ppl caught up in such fictional rivalry Lol, it was never that serious lol.

Magallen can only be dealt with by ranged attacks, Covered Physical attacks < G3 & Candle Wax.

Sanji has no way to attack Magallen & survive his poisons. His RS will be eaten, Magallen would take damage but not be K.O Then he really be screwed. Magallen clears Sanji.

He can’t clear Zoro & Luffy. You always butt hurt your favorite character isn’t as strong as you think or like him to be. Pick a different favorite character then. You argue fallacies, twisted logic or bias nonsense with everyone habitually. Relax & have a serious convo about One Piece without The Sanji complex or Zoro hate

I didn't say all, just certain. We can't denied Oda isn't involve from latest recent Twitter on him giving the word to extend in future episodes. If he involve anime like that, then possibilities of certain parts prior was by his word as well.

I didn't bring S vs Z, but more so guys like GM did. I merely state the only ones who can beat Magellen in the crew are Luffy, Sanji, and Jimbei. I didn't put Zoro due to past situation which can apply to this fight as well him having trouble dealing with tricky DF users which is evident factor on his character he isn't smart guy to handle them. Nothing about trolling or baiting, but just telling the truth about the situation here.

Ehh, ranged means nothing as Luffy does have ranged attacks, but still got bested. Also illogical on Sanji part as his fire can clear poison away and it's statement on RS will be hurt by poison kinda laughable when he has a older sister who deal with poison herself. You think Germa aren't smart enough to put defensive on each other powers within their RS as knowing Judge, he is smart guy to know all stuff that can harm something like a suit. If RS was that easily destroy, King would have done something to it when he attack Sanji, but instead RS was fine. Sanji got better chance beating Magellen than Zoro and it's clear by that now.

Why you getting insecure if I say Sanji wins and Zoro doesn't when proof is there? The only one having issues just you and few others who can't help if Zoro is losing a fight. You can never state anything Zoro losing a fight and always state 'somehow' he wins especially somehow surviving poison. Please don't pretend Magellen will be taken out by swordsman when in reality didn't he beat Shiryu and lock him down? If weapons were a issued to him, Shiryu would never lost the fight, but he did. Magellen have experience dealing guys like that, Zoro is no different and is getting defeated. Nothing to do with biased unlike your post and just stating obvious which is clear to see.

 

[Nie Li]

There seems to be a misunderstanding on your part, King Moe.

Oda is okay with the anime extending stuff, but that does NOT make said extensions canon. They're just more entertainment material for those who watch the anime, but anything that happens in the anime that isn't shown in the manga is considered filler. No exceptions.

 

[King Moe]

There seems to be a misunderstanding on your part, King Moe.

Oda is okay with the anime extending stuff, but that does NOT make said extensions canon. They're just more entertainment material for those who watch the anime, but anything that happens in the anime that isn't shown in the manga is considered filler. No exceptions.

Pretty sure there are now confirmed Canon if he allows extensions on what happen. Seeing how Anime Staff approach him before doing it shows they wouldn't do something if not to his liking. Though not saying all canon filler are canon, just certain ones. Moment we all saw that Twitter post he acknowledge certain moments as canon.

 

[Nie Li]

Pretty sure there are now confirmed Canon if he allows extensions on what happen. Seeing how Anime Staff approach him before doing it shows they wouldn't do something if not to his liking. Though not saying all canon filler are canon, just certain ones. Moment we all saw that Twitter post he acknowledge certain moments as canon.

Every long shonen has this kind of filler extensions: it's never canon.

And I'm not saying this to favor Zoro. The way he somehow went Super Saiyan God on Kamazou and made the ground break down into cubes from his aura before attacking is not canon either.

It's not that "Oda allows it to happen". These extensions would happen whether he likes it or not, because it's the way the anime industry works. They probably ask him just in case not to mess up too much with the lore, and it's good that Oda apparently likes watching the new stuff on the anime (he would never say otherwise either), but it's still not canon.

 

[King Moe]

Every long shonen has this kind of filler extensions: it's never canon.

And I'm not saying this to favor Zoro. The way he somehow went Super Saiyan God on Kamazou and made the ground break down into cubes from his aura before attacking is not canon either.

It's not that "Oda allows it to happen". These extensions would happen whether he likes it or not, because it's the way the anime industry works. They probably ask him just in case not to mess up too much with the lore, and it's good that Oda apparently likes watching the new stuff on the anime (he would never say otherwise either), but it's still not canon.

Agree To Disagree then. You can't prove that compare we have proof by Oda who choose for extensions. That heavily implied he see stuff they added Canon and by his own word.

You do know I stated certain Canon fillers, not all. The ones that make sense for example then ones like Batman above Luffy and Zoro (Though fun to see). Though stuff like filling in on scenarios like Luffy's training session in Udon for example.

 

[Nie Li]

Agree To Disagree then. You can't prove that compare we have proof by Oda who choose for extensions. That heavily implied he see stuff they added Canon and by his own word.

You do know I stated certain Canon fillers, not all. The ones that make sense for example then ones like Batman above Luffy and Zoro (Though fun to see). Though stuff like filling in on scenarios like Luffy's training session in Udon for example.

I know you stated that, but no, none of those scenes is canon.

There's no "by Oda's own words". He hasn't said "some anime fillers are canon", and they're not. None of them. You can enjoy them, of course, some of them are good, but you shouldn't use them for debates nor for filling lore.

 

[King Moe]

I know you stated that, but no, none of those scenes is canon.

There's no "by Oda's own words". He hasn't said "some anime fillers are canon", and they're not. None of them. You can enjoy them, of course, some of them are good, but you shouldn't use them for debates nor for filling lore.

Agree to Disagree as you can't prove the aren't on your side as just saying he is involved when Anime Staff are asking him and announcing on Twitter to let everyone know about it. Just saying some are canon and some are not. He doesn't need to say exact words to get idea what is canon or not there. Extensions by his word are not for sake of entertainment, but canon fillers just like extended fight between Big Mom vs Kaido since that did happen in the manga, so you can't say that is non-canon on added stuff since they were fighting for awhile as stated by the Beast Pirates.

 

[Nie Li]

Agree to Disagree as you can't prove the aren't on your side as just saying he is involved when Anime Staff are asking him and announcing on Twitter to let everyone know about it. Just saying some are canon and some are not. He doesn't need to say exact words to get idea what is canon or not there. Extensions by his word are not for sake of entertainment, but canon fillers just like extended fight between Big Mom vs Kaido since that did happen in the manga, so you can't say that is non-canon on added stuff since they were fighting for awhile as stated by the Beast Pirates.

This is not agree to disagree, this is not subjective, I don't have to prove what isn't canon: only the manga or direct statements from Oda like the SBSs are canon.

So I'm repeating myself on this for the last time: Non-canon feats (feats from anime-only scenes) are not taken into account for this kind of discussions.

 

[Grandmaster Woro]

I didn't bring S vs Z, but more so guys like GM did. I merely state the only ones who can beat Magellen in the crew are Luffy, Sanji, and Jimbei.

Nope, you are in denial and didn't answer properly what XXgenesis asked. XXgenenis was addressing your previous post that derailed to bash at zoro.
This was my post that you quoted.

read back what goldb said, only direct stuff from oda like manga or SBS should be considered here. So your anime stuff is not counted here.

Nah not being insecure, i am just being objective here. Magellan is a better fighter over sanji. Sanji's RS can't protect him. The poison would just get into the armor, just like how the poison can slip into luffy's candle armor. Sanji's one of my favorite characters but he loses here

my post didn't talk about zoro, and yet you bashed him. This was what XXgenesis called you out. Just get over your insecurity to zoro.

Anyway,

Yeah, and Oda directly told them to extend stuff in Anime, so if so his word should be taken for allowing certain scenes on that. Not saying everything in Anime is canon, but certain stuff are.

Sanji has fire and RS has shown it can't not even be destory by someone like King, so no way Magellen is destroying it especially by same family who has a poison user on their side and thought on how to defense it against their bodies with RS. Nah, Sanji got more stuff to help him fight off Magellen especially with his fire unlike Zoro who get his swords melted if his blades touch Magellen and he breath in the air or touch corrosive ground. Don't lie on who your favorite is, your got be honest and accept your favorite character Zoro is disadvantage and getting a beating in this overall.

You have been lectured many times by moegara and also goldb at some point that only manga and SBS should be counted here. Anime isn't canon.

Lmao what does reiju have to do with sanji's feat against magellan here? Niji also has electricity power but sanji still get hurt by thunders. We all saw how katakuri clobbered up RS fighter, so king's just toying with sanji. Magellan inject his poison into RS. Magellan wins over sanji. Nah sanji's also my favorite here, but i know when sanji loses against a stronger opponent.

 

[King Moe]

Nope, you are in denial and didn't answer properly what XXgenesis asked. XXgenenis was addressing your previous post that derailed to bash at zoro.
This was my post that you quoted.

my post didn't talk about zoro, and yet you bashed him. This was what XXgenesis called you out. Just get over your insecurity to zoro.

Anyway,


You have been lectured many times by moegara and also goldb at some point that only manga and SBS should be counted here. Anime isn't canon.

Lmao what does reiju have to do with sanji's feat against magellan here? Niji also has electricity power but sanji still get hurt by thunders. We all saw how katakuri clobbered up RS fighter, so king's just toying with sanji. Magellan inject his poison into RS. Magellan wins over sanji. Nah sanji's also my favorite here, but i know when sanji loses against a stronger opponent.

He is just like you who thinks because I don't say Zoro wins, I am 'biased' or 'hater' when logic push Zoro will melt his swords if poison come near his weapons and that Magellen fought a swordsman like Shiryu, so have experience dealing someone not just weapons, but a swordsman overall. Somehow you guys ignoring poison and Magellen are like a fodder who can be easily cut when reality he will destroy Zoro badly given his tricky DF which we seen already Zoro have huge issues dealing with them especially in solo fight like Apoo for example.

I can back what I said and explain with reason, not saying this for fun or biased. It's logical standpoint on why characters can beat certain characters and while others cannot.

So ignore Oda's comments about allowing Anime Staff to extend the scene especially they had to discuss it with him and somehow that is 'non-canon'? Yeah your only one not making any sense what your stating.

She is poison user last time I check, so do you think Germa especially Judge won't have RS be good enough to prevent of poison when he thought about adding stuff to one of his children's powers? Your being illogical and can't accept that RS is made to be very diverse in what it can do. It not going to be destroy if an YC like King couldn't do anything to it like that. Your only one with nothing to back and can't accept Sanji beats Magellen more compare to Zoro having a chance who just get defeated hard overall. Don't lie on favorites and just admit Zoro gets beaten here as nothing help support how he stay away from Magellen for long.

 

[Grandmaster Woro]

He is just like you who thinks because I don't say Zoro wins, I am 'biased' or 'hater' when logic push Zoro will melt his swords if poison come near his weapons and that Magellen fought a swordsman like Shiryu, so have experience dealing someone not just weapons, but a swordsman overall. Somehow you guys ignoring poison and Magellen are like a fodder who can be easily cut when reality he will destroy Zoro badly given his tricky DF which we seen already Zoro have huge issues dealing with them especially in solo fight like Apoo for example.

I can back what I said and explain with reason, not saying this for fun or biased. It's logical standpoint on why characters can beat certain characters and while others cannot.

So ignore Oda's comments about allowing Anime Staff to extend the scene especially they had to discuss it with him and somehow that is 'non-canon'? Yeah your only one not making any sense what your stating.

She is poison user last time I check, so do you think Germa especially Judge won't have RS be godo enough to prevent of poison when he thought about adding stuff to one of his children's powers? Your being illogical and can't accept that RS is made to be very diverse in what it can do. It not going to be destroy if an YC like King couldn't do anything to it like that. Your only one with nothing to back and can't accept Sanji beats Magellen more compare to Zoro having a chance who just get defeated hard overall. Don't lie on favorites and just admit Zoro gets beaten here as nothing help support how he stay away from Magellen for long.

No, XXgenesis called you out on being biased and hating on zoro because you just went off topic deliberately to bash at zoro. And he was right, here.
Anyway, since you really want to talk about zoro here (even though we recently still talked about sanji until you changed the discussion), let's do that then. Zoro can just coat his swords with haki, this has been shown before that CoA protects swords from being damaged. Magellan is not as tricky as apoo, his poison power is pretty straightforward. Thing is, zoro doesn't need to get in contact with magellan since he can just throw slashes towards him (ISDS, 1080 pound cannon). But sanji's moves are mostly short range so sanji's going to be in trouble with the poison.

Well movie staff also discuss about movie with oda, and yet you denied it. You contradicted yourself.

Nope, the manga only shows that RS has resistance to physical attacks and fire, nothing on poison. Give me manga proof of your claim.
The candle power works against poison but even the candle armor still gets injected with the poison. Sanji's raid suit would get poisoned. Why do you keep refuting my opinion lmao i just said that i liked sanji. It's not like i changed my arguments or anything. I just don't see sanji winning against magellan

 

[King Moe]

No, XXgenesis called you out on being biased and hating on zoro because you just went off topic deliberately to bash at zoro. And he was right, here.
Anyway, since you really want to talk about zoro here (even though we recently still talked about sanji until you changed the discussion), let's do that then. Zoro can just coat his swords with haki, this has been shown before that CoA protects swords from being damaged. Magellan is not as tricky as apoo, his poison power is pretty straightforward. Thing is, zoro doesn't need to get in contact with magellan since he can just throw slashes towards him (ISDS, 1080 pound cannon). But sanji's moves are mostly short range so sanji's going to be in trouble with the poison.

Well movie staff also discuss about movie with oda, and yet you denied it. You contradicted yourself.

Nope, the manga only shows that RS has resistance to physical attacks and fire, nothing on poison. Give me manga proof of your claim.
The candle power works against poison but even the candle armor still gets injected with the poison. Sanji's raid suit would get poisoned. Why do you keep refuting my opinion lmao i just said that i liked sanji. It's not like i changed my arguments or anything. I just don't see sanji winning against magellan

Nope, not hate. Just calling with logic while your just being biased about everything in your past posts. Stop lying to yourself and admit Sanji does better here while Zoro gets defeated.

So then if we go with what staff have to say in movie, Zoro's full power was already shown completely (Not that it wasn't in the manga already) and couldn't beat Crocodile later. Never state anything on movies are canon unless Oda confirms it or characters involve like Strong World for example.

Your hurting yourself and argument to try and make a point. I say Anime and only certain scenes about that.

Nah he isn't straightforward and Haki alone doesn't prevent can be your taken. We seen how Zoro uses Haki defensively and he got fainted by Kamazou on not able to try use Haki to defend against himself on that. He isn't going to survive long with Magellan who fought Shiryu and beat him. He has experience of facing swordsmen. Zoro won't beat him or even damage him unless he wants his blades melted and destroy like with rust Marine guy.

Sanji is better here given his power, durability, speed, fire, and RS. He can be unaffected by Magellan and beat him better compare to Zoro who doesn't have much to go on especially preventing skin contact of the poison. It's very straightforward on Zoro side and he will lose while Sanji does better. Your forcing S vs Z and brought Zoro here when just saying Luffy, Sanji, and Jimbei beats Magellan. Don't get insecure cause your favorite character loses to tricky opponent on his bad matchup on facing them. He can't win on every fights he is in and that is the truth. Both you and Genesis need to accept that.

 

[Grandmaster Woro]

Nope, not hate. Just calling with logic while your just being biased about everything in your past posts. Stop lying to yourself and admit Sanji does better here while Zoro gets defeated.

So then if we go with what staff have to say in movie, Zoro's full power was already shown completely (Not that it wasn't in the manga already) and couldn't beat Crocodile later. Never state anything on movies are canon unless Oda confirms it or characters involve like Strong World for example.

Your hurting yourself and argument to try and make a point. I say Anime and only certain scenes about that.

Nah he isn't straightforward and Haki alone doesn't prevent can be your taken. We seen how Zoro uses Haki defensively and he got fainted by Kamazou on not able to try use Haki to defend against himself on that. He isn't going to survive long with Magellan who fought Shiryu and beat him. He has experience of facing swordsmen. Zoro won't beat him or even damage him unless he wants his blades melted and destroy like with rust Marine guy.

Sanji is better here given his power, durability, speed, fire, and RS. He can be unaffected by Magellan and beat him better compare to Zoro who doesn't have much to go on especially preventing skin contact of the poison. It's very straightforward on Zoro side and he will lose while Sanji does better. Your forcing S vs Z and brought Zoro here when just saying Luffy, Sanji, and Jimbei beats Magellan. Don't get insecure cause your favorite character loses to tricky opponent on his bad matchup on facing them. He can't win on every fights he is in and that is the truth. Both you and Genesis need to accept that.

your answer doesn't really address my point on how anime is accepted just because anime staff discuss it with oda and yet you cannot accept the same thing for movie even though movie is obviously discussed with oda, too.

Zoro's haki is focused on his swords. CoA protects his swords from the poison. Not to mention zoro can just throw flying slashes like ISDS to avoid direct skin contact.

Sanji's not that durable based on his recent performance. Sanji was beaten by spider trap gifters' mere kicks. His kicks are also not that powerful since sanji couldn't beat P1 in their brief clash (while luffy could knock P1 out without even using G4). Actually, sanji was in much danger of skin contact rather than zoro since sanji has lots of short ranged attacks. As i said before, magellan can inject poison into a gear suit, so RS might not be enough here.
Nope, not insecure. I can accept when my favorite characters lose, that's why i accept that sanji loses here against magellan.

 

[King Moe]

your answer doesn't really address my point on how anime is accepted just because anime staff discuss it with oda and yet you cannot accept the same thing for movie even though movie is obviously discussed with oda, too.

Zoro's haki is focused on his swords. CoA protects his swords from the poison. Not to mention zoro can just throw flying slashes like ISDS to avoid direct skin contact.

Sanji's not that durable based on his recent performance. Sanji was beaten by spider trap gifters' mere kicks. His kicks are also not that powerful since sanji couldn't beat P1 in their brief clash (while luffy could knock P1 out without even using G4). Actually, sanji was in much danger of skin contact rather than zoro since sanji has lots of short ranged attacks. As i said before, magellan can inject poison into a gear suit, so RS might not be enough here.
Nope, not insecure. I can accept when my favorite characters lose, that's why i accept that sanji loses here against magellan.

He never said anything about movies being canon unless the characters in it like Strong World, Z, and Stampede, but not the events unless you believe Luffy could beat someone like Shiki who was Major Rivals to Roger back in the day? I never state story in there was canon, but characters by Oda were like Shiki.

Nah, doesn't protect you and we all know that after he fainted so badly to Kamazou and Gyukimaro was enough for him. flying slashes are overrated, didn't stop Apoo nor many others just because he can slash from afar. Magellen would probably block or send them flying right back at him. It won't prevent gas and corrosion going near him and that is a fact.

So tanking many credible threats from Drake, Kanjuro, and King shows he isn't durable unlike Zoro fainting to nerfed pleasure and fox? Lol, headcannon have you warped so much on your post it's hard to take you seriously. You do know he was in sticky web, not that they overpower him in a fight. That just illogical logic and he did beat PO as well. Show me proof PO came back in manga cause if you use anime, you have to admit Sanji beat Drake in a fight as either way, he is above T6H already shown. Nah poison doesn't get through fire and actually combustible if Magellen let out gas and it went back at him in explosion and RS is non-effective by poison or acidic as it was made to avoid that given there is already poison user in the family. Your grasping at straws and losing debate here. Sanji is more protected than Zoro who is defenseless by miles away.

Zoro, your favorite character is losing the fight and just that while Sanji beats Magellen to submission. It's clear as day especially Zoro can't handle tricky foes like Apoo, so no credible on why Magellen experience fighter who even defeated Shiryu will not know how to deal with Zoro. He is defeated the moment the fight take place. Luffy, Sanji, and Jimbei are only ones to beat Magellen overall.

 

[Nie Li]

The claims in this discussion have reached the point of "Magellan will return flying slashes from afar right back at Zoro"; a power he doesn't have.

It's clear that King Moe doesn't think Zoro stands a chance against Magellan, so let's move on.

 

[King Moe]

The claims in this discussion has reached the point of "Magellan will return flying slashes from afar right back at Zoro"; a power he doesn't have.

It's clear that King Moe doesn't think Zoro stands a chance against Magellan, so let's move on.

Not just me. Others. I here many use excuse Zoro attack from afar will defeat enemies when we seen they either dodge or block his attacks. Highly doubt Magellen is fodder to not dodge or block it. Ignoring his history with Shiryu to say Zoro being swordsman give him advantage is plain denial than factual. No shame Zoro loses the fight, he can't handle trick opponents like others can. Luffy, Sanji, and Jimbei just workout more.