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Meh, the Steelers side of this is honestly sort of boring to me. My team being fraudulent since thanksgiving shouldn't be news to anybody, honestly.

I wish I could say I thought the Browns were for real because that would be fun narrative but I don't think that's true. My team was just putrid.
 

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Meh, the Steelers side of this is honestly sort of boring to me. My team being fraudulent since thanksgiving shouldn't be news to anybody, honestly.

I wish I could say I thought the Browns were for real because that would be fun narrative but I don't think that's true. My team was just putrid.
Ya browns are getting destroyed next week
 

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Never count em out.

If they play like that against KC. They'll have a chance. They're the real deal and have a bright future.
 

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They're the real deal and have a bright future.
They're the Browns. Unless they string together multiple playoff trips, there's no reason to believe they won't implode.
 

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They're the Browns. Unless they string together multiple playoff trips, there's no reason to believe they won't implode.
So?

I don't see why they can't put together multiple playoff trips. They're a good team.
 

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So?

I don't see why they can't put together multiple playoff trips. They're a good team.
How long have you been following the NFL? It's a rare thing for perennial basement-dwellers to finally turn things around and become a consistent, winning franchise. They might have a few years where they're not, but despite the NFL's effort to establish parity with the salary cap and profit-sharing, many organizations are still unable to get out of their own way.

Now, this doesn't mean the Browns can't turn into a winning team for the immediate future, but most people wouldn't take that bet only after their first playoff win in 27 years, even some Browns fans.
 

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How long have you been following the NFL? It's a rare thing for perennial basement-dwellers to finally turn things around and become a consistent, winning franchise. They might have a few years where they're not, but despite the NFL's effort to establish parity with the salary cap and profit-sharing, many organizations are still unable to get out of their own way.
Long enough.

Rare =/= Impossible

Now, this doesn't mean the Browns can't turn into a winning team for the immediate future, but most people wouldn't take that bet only after their first playoff win in 27 years, even some Browns fans.
Cool.

My original statement doesn't change.
 

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Long enough.

Rare =/= Impossible

Cool.

My original statement doesn't change.
The discussion wasn't about possibility though?

Jimmy Haslam has seemed to accomplish something Randy Lerner never could, getting a competent coach and a QB who doesn't seem to be a flop. Maybe you see some of the Bills in them and don't like the implication I may be making, but different division, plus the Bills have actually played in a championship game in the last 50 years.
 

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The discussion wasn't about possibility though?
I wasn't getting involved in discussion. In terms of discussion all I said was don't sleep on them for next week.

I said in general they are a good team and they have a bright future.

Jimmy Haslam has seemed to accomplish something Randy Lerner never could, getting a competent coach and a QB who doesn't seem to be a flop. Maybe you see some of the Bills in them and don't like the implication I may be making, but different division, plus the Bills have actually played in a championship game in the last 50 years.
I mean I wasn't thinking of the Bills.
 

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False hope Browns are getting Molly whop I guarantee it
 

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The Ravens were the team I was most scared of.

Should be a good one.
 

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I'll be rooting for the Packers, Bills, Browns, and Saints. I'm hoping for two wins out of that group. Any two.
 

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I'll be rooting for the Packers, Bills, Browns, and Saints. I'm hoping for two wins out of that group. Any two.
Hey wtf? I was rooting against the Browns last week, you know?
 

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Hey wtf? I was rooting against the Browns last week, you know?
I mean, I AM a Steelers fan after all. I can respect the Ravens but I can't root for them unless they feel like an underdog. I just can't.:p

If it ends up being Ravens and Chiefs next week. Then I'll root for them.
 

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I mean, I AM a Steelers fan after all. I can respect the Ravens but I can't root for them unless they feel like an underdog. I just can't.:p

If it ends up being Ravens and Chiefs next week. Then I'll root for them.
So you think the Bills are the home dogs?
 

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So you think the Bills are the home dogs?
I honestly think the Ravens and Bills are about even in this matchup. Haven't looked at the gambling lines, honestly.

For me it comes down to me still not trusting Lamar in a big game so I give the edge offensively to the Bills. He played well once he loosened up in the second half of that game but he still threw a pick and only put up 20 pts. I trust Josh Allen way more than him. But I also trust the Ravens D more than I do the Bills D. They gave up a lot of yards against the Colts where the Ravens held Derrik Henry to 40 yards rushing, which is damn impressive.

So to me it seems pretty even.
 

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I honestly think the Ravens and Bills are about even in this matchup. Haven't looked at the gambling lines, honestly.

For me it comes down to me still not trusting Lamar in a big game so I give the edge offensively to the Bills. He played well once he loosened up in the second half of that game but he still threw a pick and only put up 20 pts. I trust Josh Allen way more than him. But I also trust the Ravens D more than I do the Bills D. They gave up a lot of yards against the Colts where the Ravens held Derrik Henry to 40 yards rushing, which is damn impressive.

So to me it seems pretty even.
Ravens are winning bills ain’t ready yet chiefs are gonna destroy the browns
 

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Bills are the No.1 scoring offense against the Blitz......the Ravens love to blitz. Bills pass offense is tiers above Baltimore.

Bills rushing defense is terrible and they're going up against the best rushing offense. It goes both ways.
 

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Bills are the No.1 scoring offense against the Blitz......the Ravens love to blitz. Bills pass offense is tiers above Baltimore.

Bills rushing defense is terrible and they're going up against the best rushing offense. It goes both ways.
Ravens d has 3 pro bowler cbs and know how to defend the pass
 
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