Hangout Mokushiroku no Yonkishi Hangout Thread

[Nie Li]

I think Nakaba confirmed before that Britannia was England.

I haven't read that before but I always expected it to be. I mean it literally is a real, historical name for it.

 

[The Prince of Darkness]

Tristan looks like he's using a sword made of "Ark" coated with "Darkness"

 

[Nie Li]

The knights look so amazing that I know I'll never like their real designs when they're revealed to be kids.

 

[Zorra_akuma]

tbh if tristan does look like that when hes older then he looks ugly as shit ngl

 

[The Prince of Darkness]

Death Pierce talked about creating a kingdom only for Humans but I don't remember them talking about a separation of the realms.

The manga and every anime episodes start with "this is a time where the humans and non humans were still cohabiting" so we could understand that at some point in the future they will get separated

 

[Zorra_akuma]

Tristan's grow up theatrical design reminds of august from fairy tail... and thats not a good thing

 

[Tristan]

16 years after NNT... So Tristan and Lancelot are 26?

I think Nakaba's answer is somewhat tricky. He could've meant by "NnT" there the generation/period where the main events of NnT happened, or he could simply mean 16 years after the ch. 364 as you said.

 

[Vortigern]

Famine is probably Gawain because his namesake is about as famous as the other 3's. He was already kind of teased in the sketches where Mael was apparently talking to the new host of Sunshine. There's a bit of a missed opportunity with his title considering that Mael was called the Angel of Death, but I guess Nakaba has something more interesting planned for the titles than just that.
Plague's hair style is similar to Tristan and Meliodas so his identity is obvious.
War has a spear just like Lancelot when he was a kid.
Not sure what to make of Percival being Death. He is the last horseman and has the most impressive title so I suppose it's fitting for the main character.

I'm guessing the titles bear some kind of relevance to the characters just like how the Sins were given their titles based on the crimes they had been accused of. Could be something related to their future actions as predicted by the omen or maybe just a reference to their magic abilities. The thing Percival's golems did with attempting to prevent Pelgart from using his magic could be related to his title somehow. Or it could be that there's another twist involved and the knights actually do pretty much the opposite of their titles, since Percival can heal himself and in a sense "give life" to golems. I wouldn't be surprised if his magic ability was called "Life".

Very glad to know the knights apart from Percival appear to be adults. I can handle one shota, but four would have been pushing it. 16 years is maybe stretching the "a few years" description somewhat, but it does fit in with the upper limit for Katz's age that I mentioned a few weeks back when I was speculating about the timeline. This also means Arthur is now something like 44 years old. I don't know how reliable the picture is, but he doesn't look like he's aged at all.

As for the plot, I'm a little bit surprised that Pelgart didn't end up training Percival like he said he would. That kind of defeats the point of making him so friendly at first, but I suppose it can always happen later on. Percival and Donnie having to learn to survive and find things out on their own is much more interesting anyway. I'm glad that Donnie is sticking around as he feels more normal and grounded than Percival, both in terms of personality and abilities. In a way he's like the Elizabeth of the group, with the fox probably playing the mascot role like Hawk. I'm very curious who they will run into next seeing how Diane was introduced in like chapter 5 or so of NNT and Ban soon after that. Percival's gang should be expanding soon too.

So is Nakaba jebaiting us with drawing Diane&Kings child as a guy? I swear it was gonna be a girl before.

King and Diane's child is probably the Diane-lookalike girl shown in the sketches, because her dialogue is apparently about how she and the person she's talking to met each other back when they were kids. Odds are she's speaking to either Lancelot or Tristan.

I don't know why people are so fixated on the idea that King and Diane's child is going to be one of the main characters. Tristan and Lancelot had full pages dedicated just to revealing their names back to back, and then Tristan got the last chapter all to himself while Lancelot got his own one-shot. Meanwhile King and Diane's child has only been mentioned off-hand like twice and never named. That kid was never going to be as important as the other two. I think he/she is probably going to be the central character in some sort of a conflict involving the fairies and the giants later down the line. The giants are especially interesting since back in NNT they were slowly going extinct or something and we also learned that Chaos itself was disappointed in them. They'll get their redemption eventually, probably through King and Diane's kid.

 

[Demonspeed]

They are defnitely not going to look that mature, whether they are 26 or 16. Nakaba doesn't draw young adults like this.

 

[Tristan]

tbh if tristan does look like that when hes older then he looks ugly as shit ngl

???
Does Mael seem ugly to you? Lmao

 

[Redworld96]

Everyone now is making theories who could be King and Diane's child inside that panel of today's chapter, and I dont know what to think about this.
I also expected that kid to be part of this group, but after watching that panel... what if their kid won't be one of the 4KOTA after all?
The child can still be another of the knights of the round table, there are a lot of them (Bors, Galehaut ...)
Or maybe Nakaba planned their kid to female and have the typical role of "love interest" for one member of this group (discarding Percival and Lancelot of course).
For example they can be Isolde (Tristan's lover on the legends).

I dont know, I just feel now their kid wont be one of the 4KOTA for some reason.

 

[Mighty Escanor]

The realms are not separated yet, but there is a difference between MnYK and NnT I need to mention.
In NnT, human countries were mostly in peace with each other. There was no war between human populations and the tiny struggles were all related to the DC.
Here is MnYK, there are at least three majors countries, one led by Mel, one led by Deathpierce, and one led by Arthur. Perhaps at the current timeline of MnYK, all of them are in conflict with each other. I do expect Nakaba to make use of this great opportunity he made for the sequel and show us better dynamics between different groups of people with similar or differing races. NnT ended up introducing DK as the ultimate bad guy in contrast to its normal gray characters. I hope Lady of the Lake or Arthur has a better future. Also if Arthur is really the bad guy right now, I'm sure he will become a Hendy/Mael type of character in the new series.

 

[Demonspeed]

Everyone now is making theories who could be King and Diane's child inside that panel of today's chapter, and I dont know what to think about this.
I also expected that kid to be part of this group, but after watching that panel... what if their kid won't be one of the 4KOTA after all?
The child can still be another of the knights of the round table, there are a lot of them (Bors, Galehaut ...)
Or maybe Nakaba planned their kid to female and have the typical role of "love interest" for one member of this group (discarding Percival and Lancelot of course).
For example they can be Isolde (Tristan's lover on the legends).

I dont know, I just feel now their kid wont be one of the 4KOTA for some reason.

Honestly there are plenty of headcanons in the fandom about Gawain and more. There will definitely be a Gawain and the fourth should be Gawain IMO but whether he'll be a reincarnation or not, we don't know. Escanor also hasn't been guaranteed a reincarnation IIRC. Same for the theory that King and Diane have a daughter. Gawain could be their kid. They could also have several kids(I think it's very likely but we'll see) etc.

 

[HereNThere]

As far as I'm concerned the silhouettes are functioning as the Posters did in NNT. So I'm not expecting all the Knights to even look similar to this and for there to be twists and turns regarding them.

King and Diane's kid should be apart of the group. I honestly don't see why they wouldn't. Them being of mixed heritage alone like the other two should imply some significance, at least, if we go by the whole logic of chaos. All three kids should be considered the closest to Chaos after Arthur.

 

[Samael Morningstar]

Btw does anyone know of the reception of this manga in Japan?

After being calm, I think it's too soon to think of the knights and who they're going to be, let's just goo with the flow where nakaba is taking, cause every time I get hyped I just remember what he did back then in NNT especially those last 70-80 chapters that kills all the mood honestly

I don't think any of the OG series characters are going to appear anytime soon, probably quite middle of the manga

 

[Tristan]

 

[Redworld96]

Them being of mixed heritage alone like the other two should imply some significance,

You have a point there. After all, last year Nakaba made a whole long interview for a book after NNT ended and he said this about interclan childbirths:

"Every one of them is the first. Children from a Human and a Fairy, from a Goddess and a Demon and from a Giant and a Fairy are the first ones."

I dont think he will miss the opportunity to write and design well the 3rd hybrid he mentions there when it's indeed the first being born from a Giant and a Fairy. Two very different beings whose offspring has a very interesting potential.

If he mentioned their kid there it's because he has something planned to do with them. Anyway, he also confirmed we are gonna see their kid on one of the "Pair Sin Guidebooks" released on late 2018:

Interviewer: I can't wait to find out what kind of children they (King and Diane) will have!

Nakaba: Well, you'll have to wait a little longer here ...

We just have to wait.

 

[Zero14]

You have a point there. After all, last year Nakaba made a whole long interview for a book after NNT ended and he said this about interclan childbirths:


I dont think he will miss the opportunity to write and design well the 3rd hybrid he mentions there when it's indeed the first being born from a Giant and a Fairy. Two very different beings whose offspring has a very interesting potential.

If he mentioned their kid there it's because he has something planned to do with them. Anyway, he also confirmed we are gonna see their kid on one of the "Pair Sin Guidebooks" released on late 2018:



We just have to wait.

Mael wasn't part of the SDS and he was still very powerful, I think the same is going to happen with King and Diane's child

 

[Mighty Escanor]

Everyone now is making theories who could be King and Diane's child inside that panel of today's chapter, and I dont know what to think about this.
I also expected that kid to be part of this group, but after watching that panel... what if their kid won't be one of the 4KOTA after all?
The child can still be another of the knights of the round table, there are a lot of them (Bors, Galehaut ...)
Or maybe Nakaba planned their kid to female and have the typical role of "love interest" for one member of this group (discarding Percival and Lancelot of course).
For example they can be Isolde (Tristan's lover on the legends).

I dont know, I just feel now their kid wont be one of the 4KOTA for some reason.

Is there any mention of the kids' gender so far?
And about lovers, I acknowledge it's hard to maintain a balance between two characters sharing the same plotline. Especially when there is a third guy they both need to confront regardless of their feelings towards each other. I mean a love story is different, but a for couple walking the path of an adventure tale together, one most probably outshines the other.
Will it always be the female character to be sacrificed though? I'm pretty sure Der was a better character than Mons in NnT.

Now about the fourth guy, I, as a fan of Escanor, personally want him to be related to the sin of pride. There might be some slight similarities, but I need to see the anime version of Ludo's friend's story to see if there was also a child similar to Escanor 3000 years ago.

However, it's not that important if a specific character is a KoA or not. Zeldoris was not a sin, but had a very prominent role throughout the story. Merlin was one of the sins, but was neglected almost all the time. Let's hope whoever inherits Sunshine or the genes of Fairy King and Giant Queen, whether KoA or not, to have an interesting story.

 

[Bang]

Seems like these new types of magic aren't new at all