Games Mafia Jump 89 - OMO WEEKLY - End Game

[gnut]

Yes but this is kinda irrefutable proof he's scum, feels so out of place for it to have been there but everyone overlooked it since Asako's reveal yesterday.

He also was vouching hard for Gaj.

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I found it weird she mentioned recruitment and not protection.

 

[digitaldude]

HOLD UP GAJEEL SAID HE IS VENGEFUL TO BAIT KILLS?

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its time to vote.

 

[Gajeel]

Just my thoughts on every player. I have not checked the normal votes nor the mechanic votes for these thoughts.

MarmaladeSky - One of the 6 investigative roles, the Spirit Medium. Honestly, I don't believe that we have 6 investigative roles in the game, and Spirit Medium/Mortician is pretty weird. The one thing that is interesting about her is the last day phase's vote. She was ahead in votes, but the assassin killed one of her voters to end up with the same amount of votes as Holt. *****However, Ustegius got an Innocent Result. *****

Mazino - We know he can't be sane doctor, and that he targetted N1: Erinyes, N2: Demonspeed, N3: HII. Absolutely nothing relevant and the spy is dead. If he's scum, I don't think he could be Mentor, simply because he called Erinyes eryn. It might sound stupid, but I'm assuming that when you start researching which partner would be the best one, you would at least memorize their name correctly. Most likely scum though. Assassin?

Ustegius - Out of the three investigative players remaining, he is the one that I have the best feeling about. I think he targeted MarmaladeSky, Asako, and HII? I guess he can only be naive or sane.

gnut - Sorry, I'm not revealing period. He can't be mentee, but possible for him to be mentor/assassin.

HII - Second townie claim, low activity so he's way too under the radar. However, Ustegius got an Innocent Result on him, so he can't be Miller/Death Miller. Another full vanilla town after Shad (sleeper, town?), or is Ustegius naive?

GrySun - One of the 6 investigative roles, claims Paranoid/Insane. He got Guilty on both Ustegius and Tatsumaki + ''failed'' on pompom. He can't be mentee. Afterthoughts, Gry doesn't sit well with me at all. Especially after his posts today. First, he thought all night that demon was assassinated, and he proposed that maybe Mazino insane killed Tatsumaki, but not that there might be a mentor even after Asako's big post?? It's very surprising coming from GrySun. Sounds like someone who doesn't want others to dig into it. Also, when you said how dumb scums were to kill Tatsumaki, it sounded weird. It felt like you wanted people to subconsciously tell themselves that Gry wouldn't do that, like a psychological trick. As gnut said, one of the detectives is fiddling with us. I'm guessing that Gry's probably the one. It,s also pretty strange that you're still alive too. It was open-house yesterday. Most likely mentor considering today's discussion.

digitaldude - Pretty unlucky aren't we? I had some thoughts on you earlier, but I forgot about them. I honestly don't know what you are, but man, 4 days in, and we still can't tell if you truly are Necromancer. Did you lose the Pirate ability? At this point, you could be anything.

 

[GrySun]

GrySun - One of the 6 investigative roles, claims Paranoid/Insane. He got Guilty on both Ustegius and Tatsumaki + ''failed'' on pompom. He can't be mentee. Afterthoughts, Gry doesn't sit well with me at all. Especially after his posts today. First, he thought all night that demon was assassinated, and he proposed that maybe Mazino insane killed Tatsumaki, but not that there might be a mentor even after Asako's big post?? It's very surprising coming from GrySun. Sounds like someone who doesn't want others to dig into it. Also, when you said how dumb scums were to kill Tatsumaki, it sounded weird. It felt like you wanted people to subconsciously tell themselves that Gry wouldn't do that, like a psychological trick. As gnut said, one of the detectives is fiddling with us. I'm guessing that Gry's probably the one. It,s also pretty strange that you're still alive too. It was open-house yesterday. Most likely mentor considering today's discussion.

Disappointing that your biggest writeup is on me I‘m not using any psychological tricks here, just telling you what I think and see. Asako‘s big post I didn’t think much of because it makes no sense, this is not how Mortician is supposed to work, a dead player cannot be targetted anymore by other roles. I expected a bigger mafia team with SS and Santa being enough for 17 players, and even considering you or gnut to be biding your time as Mason Recruiters. You then come as Vengeful and gnut as nothing.

You tell me, why did you assassinate Demon instead of me? Wasted a daykill right there.

 

[digitaldude]

Why arent you guys voting?

 

[Gajeel]

Disappointing that your biggest writeup is on me I‘m not using any psychological tricks here, just telling you what I think and see. Asako‘s big post I didn’t think much of because it makes no sense, this is not how Mortician is supposed to work, a dead player cannot be targetted anymore by other roles. I expected a bigger mafia team with SS and Santa being enough for 17 players, and even considering you or gnut to be biding your time as Mason Recruiters. You then come as Vengeful and gnut as nothing.

Asako clearly stated there was a recruit attempt on Erinyes and she died Mortician I'm not really sure to understand what doesn't make sense. What do you mean a dead player cannot be targetted anymore by other roles?

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Why arent you guys voting?

We got 12 hours left to discuss.

 

[GrySun]

Asako clearly stated there was a recruit attempt on Erinyes and she died Mortician I'm not really sure to understand what doesn't make sense. What do you mean a dead player cannot be targetted anymore by other roles?

Excerpt from game rules:

Similarly, if player A died before a player B did their action on A then B's action cannot be traced unless B's action works on dead players. If not then it's like no action was PMed.
Example: Pirate targets player A that is dead before Pirate does his action. If Mortician checks player A, he will not find that Pirate's action in the list of actions that targeted player A.

Yet the recruit was somehow in Asako's result. That's why I didn't think of the Mazino inconsistency before, because normally Mortician wouldn't show 2 kill attempts(1 by mafia 1 by Insane Doctor), but according to Asako this is how it is this game, so Mazino's action should be visible on Erin as well but isn't there.

And as I said, unlucky Mason Recruiter sounded more reasonable than Mentor.

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Why arent you guys voting?

I'd still wanna hear more from people that aren't here as often and there should be plenty time remaining.

Where's your vote? Decided yet? Who's Assassin who's Mentor/Mentee?

 

[Riku]

VOTEKILL Gajeel

Making sure I get vote in, been surprisingly busy today and will be tomorrow as well, but should have hour or two before end of phase to change vote if necessary.

Even after the long effort, Gajeel is still sus. I think argument with Gry is kinda stalling, so it feels like an attempt to shift attention elsewhere.

Even after bit of waiting and new vibes, it still falls between gnut, Gajeel and Mazino. I placed my bet.

 

[Mazino]

Could Mazino be the Mentor? Assassin didn‘t daykill on D1 so he probably killed Erin at night and won the cointoss over the Mentor, which is why Erin didn‘t die as a Mentee.

Main part of the theory are Asako‘s results. Since hosts showed everything that was used on Erin that night, regardless if Erin is already dead, it should’ve shown another attempt at killing Erin or a protection used on her because Mazino Doctor claims to have targetted her. Yet it didn‘t show it in Asako‘s result. Doesn‘t this completely show Mazino is lying? Or am I missing something?

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I just don‘t get why Mentor would fake claim the same target he failed to recruit. And especially Doctor as a Mentor‘s claim is super ballsy way to expect reaching endgame with.

I saw asakos results in a positive way, since i believe im insane since then. Before that i just guessed it, since nth happened to demon on night 2. I hoped to kill HII yesterday, cuz imo there is no way for another plain t.

No need to wonder about Maz...cause why would Asako lie or not tell everything.
Him and Gaj are in kahoots together...so Im voting one of them....prolly Maz.

Aside from the fact you go after me in every MG(you hate me triple G bruh)

you throwing suspicions around while never rlly contributing anything and not revealing anything makes you rlly sus.
Always had my problems understanding you in here.

He also was vouching hard for Gaj.

Hard? This day i put him in the top 3 sus list together with you and HII. Get your facts straight.

 

[GrySun]

Come on @gnut claim your role already, if it was reversed I‘m sure I wouldn‘t hear no end from ya

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I saw asakos results in a positive way, since i believe im insane since then. Before that i just guessed it, since nth happened to demon on night 2. I hoped to kill HII yesterday, cuz imo there is no way for another plain t.

But then what happened to the mafia kill? There was no role to block it, and if you both went for Erin it would show 2 times that she was killed by someone.

 

[Mazino]

But then what happened to the mafia kill? There was no role to block it, and if you both went for Erin it would show 2 times that she was killed by someone.

I understand your reasoning. Cant really explain it myself though.
Also understand the fact that people think I could have kept silent to observe everything longer, since lots of you play that way, but that is not my style if i can help by contributing in any way. I stay short and simple. Thats what I do to help.

 

[gnut]

Come on @gnut claim your role already, if it was reversed I‘m sure I wouldn‘t hear no end from ya

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But then what happened to the mafia kill? There was no role to block it, and if you both went for Erin it would show 2 times that she was killed by someone.

Even if I told it you wouldn't believe it...so I'd much rather leave it up to you guys to trust me...think I would be this uncooperative if I was really scum...come on
But like I told DD...lynch me to find out the surprise....and this is no threat.

 

[digitaldude]

Its all pointing to mazino. Vote lock mazino wont be on at the end. I do feel like gajeel is the mentee sacrifice. Gnut most likely the assassin.

 

[Marmalade]

Bit of a weird strategy now that I think about it... I mean a Vengeful Townie can do it's vengeful thing after getting lynched? So if mafia thought he was dangerous and wanted him dead they could have murdered him at night I suppose (and the plan would fall

Even if I told it you wouldn't believe it...so I'd much rather leave it up to you guys to trust me...think I would be this uncooperative if I was really scum...come on
But like I told DD...lynch me to find out the surprise....and this is no threat.

But not claiming at all also isn’t really making you good right now... Don’t you want to at least try to make yourself more trustworthy?

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Ffs, that was half a post. I hate playing this game on mobile.
But yes, do think the VT claim gajeel made is a but of a weird strategy.

 

[Mazino]

Its all pointing to mazino. Vote lock mazino wont be on at the end. I do feel like gajeel is the mentee sacrifice. Gnut most likely the assassin.

I do agree with those two being scum.
Hope you will at least follow that up tomorrow. And if i should die you can take my role. Maybe you have more luck with the toin cosses.

Also HII could/should be scum

 

[gnut]

I do agree with those two being scum.
Hope you will at least follow that up tomorrow. And if i should die you can take my role. Maybe you have more luck with the toin cosses.

Also HII could/should be scum

Rich coming from you...a wide open doc since day2 and mafia hasn't taken you out....lololol

 

[Mazino]

Rich coming from you...a wide open doc since day2 and mafia hasn't taken you out....lololol

Well next time i just say people please trust me but i wont tell nothing or you can just kill me. Seems to work fine.

Ust d2 and gry d3 survived too as det, but it is indeed weird that i am still alive.
But it seems to end this day.

 

[Hll]

Also HII could/should be scum

God i am a townie, we can have three detectives but not two townie

Anyways am done with work and want sleep soon, if you have any doubts about me vote me off tomorrow but now focus on others who are even more suspicious (gnut and gajeel) mostly

Votekill gnut

@digitaldude Hopefully your luck will be better today and you can use your ability

 

[gnut]

God i am a townie, we can have three detectives but not two townie

Anyways am done with work and want sleep soon, if you have any doubts about me vote me off tomorrow but now focus on others who are even more suspicious (gnut and gajeel) mostly

Votelock gnut

@digitaldude Hopefully your luck will be better today and you can use your ability

You have to bold your vote like so....votekill Mazino

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Gry...was your gift assassin...cause its weird they haven't struck again...just wondering

 

[GrySun]

Gry...was your gift assassin...cause its weird they haven't struck again...just wondering

Please, I‘d never be so shameless to do the kill so far at the end that hosts gotta put it in lynch post.

And you‘re all confusing me with the way you‘re voting. I‘ll try to sleep on it, wake up early and see if I can better deduce things.