Everything is ready! The fighting has ceased!
Come on over and join us at the Award Ceremony!
Come on over and join us at the Award Ceremony!
At least someone cultured understands me![]()
I feel you Sam - it's all too much at times
*Goes to cry in Vagabond*

But you are also a huge Bleach fan... A Mayuri fan even...![]()
I feel you Sam - it's all too much at times
*Goes to cry in Vagabond*

.*laughs in Ichibe*
I guess we're about to find out.Well a sword would just shatter as soon as it touched Gokus 48-pack.

Its important to not confuse universes with timelines/alternate realities tho. From the read I made on every character I noticed that none is truly Multiversal level and very very few are Universe level.Nuh it is not,there are countless series where characters can wipe out infinite number of multiverses just by existing,leave alone fighting.
Like the Hadou Gods in Dies Irae,they can't exist directly outside the Throne(a place beyond time,space and dimensions) as their very presence erases the infinite universes.They have to create their sensories in those multiverses just to interact.Kind of like Avatars in games.
Same with Umineko characters.
Same with Demonbane top tiers.(I don't know much about it,only read the stats)
Gurren lagann,End of the series WN Naofumi and Raphtalia,End of the series WN Rimuru(Haven't read WN of Slime) but seemingly Rimuru created tens and thousands of universes,Anos Voldigoad all can defeat Zeno.
And many of them have tanked existence erasure attacks which can erase infinite universes(not just 12 universes) and characters on their levels.
There, fixed it for you.ReZero is actually quite balanced on that regard. Because no one except Reinhard is truly unbeatable.
Both our characters are swordmasters my man, I knew that you were cultured.Why couldn't you guys just pick some simple characters instead of going with people so you can be like "hehe existence erasure u lose LOL" "nah-uh! my 10000 year old loli waifu ignores the existence erasure by making another universe where she survives"
Swords are cooler anyway![]()

The ones i mentioned are truly multiversal or above though like the ones in Dies Irae or other series.Its important to not confuse universes with timelines/alternate realities tho. From the read I made on every character I noticed that none is truly Multiversal level and very very few are Universe level.
Same with Umineko, the only character there that is close (and just close) to Creator level aka multiversal is Aurora, and she's obviously banned.
There, fixed it for you./
Both our characters are swordmasters my man, I knew that you were cultured.![]()
*laughs in arc 5*Its important to not confuse universes with timelines/alternate realities tho. From the read I made on every character I noticed that none is truly Multiversal level and very very few are Universe level.
Same with Umineko, the only character there that is close (and just close) to Creator level aka multiversal is Aurora, and she's obviously banned.
There, fixed it for you./
Both our characters are swordmasters my man, I knew that you were cultured.![]()
I have to correct you slightly on that Lambu.Its important to not confuse universes with timelines/alternate realities tho. From the read I made on every character I noticed that none is truly Multiversal level and very very few are Universe level.
Same with Umineko, the only character there that is close (and just close) to Creator level aka multiversal is Aurora, and she's obviously banned.
Well like Umineko you can compareI have to correct you slightly on that Lambu.
In fact, the characters in Umineko, even Willard cats Diana are mutliversal lvl+ due to the cosmologcal concept within Umineko and the complexity that comes into look with the infinite amount of layers and even beyond. Beatrice for example, created many if not thousands of multiversal (lvls) within her own gameboard, which initself is already pretty ridiculous, same goes for the other characters. Let me give an example of Dlanor's ability which one is known as the ''Knox rules''. The knox rules means that, say if Superman wants to challange her and they have both the authority to influence within a gameboard (see it as galaxy, universe, etc.), if Dlanor uses this power upon him you can say that he gets Clark Kent on the gameboard due to the fact that the in-universe writers (most likely) wouldn't know Clark's secret identity. This is just a short way to describe it.
Hence that's, aside from Aurora, Bernkastel and Lambdadelta, one of the reasons why they are banned for most battle threads, because they are not comparable to the other characters with the anime/mangaverse. However, when it comes to Aurora and the two other vogayer witches, Bernkastel and Lambdadelta, those should never ever been even compared to what is known as ''universes'' or ''galaxies'' or ''beyond infinite'' in general. Those three in general go beyond the concept known as multiversal, because, they are nigh omni/omni, but even that they are all outverse+ lvls. That also reminds me of the city of books. Remember the city of books? You can see the city of books that contains all universes in existence. Lets say for example, DB verse, OPM verse etc., those are for these three witches, nothing more, but just a simple story or better said a cute chessboard that they can either simply influence, erase, rewrite, etc.. whenever they feel like it. Another perfect example is the battle between Lambdadelta and Bernkastel. Battler himself couldn't even describe what exactly was going on till he find a word that was suitable for the event known as ''universe'' since due in this battle between Lambdadelta and Bernkastel, they recreated galaxies and destroyed them just for giggles (as in, DB verse got destroyed within one second by Bernkastel, but Lambdadelta recreated it within the other second etc. and Aurora had to fix (without much effort) the damage done there lol. This alone is also another reason why they are banned in most, if not, almost all battle events. The only one that can actually erase them truely from existence is Aurora herself, which you have also seen agains her battle with Lambdadelta (it can't even been seen as a battle, she didn't had to do fucking shit + she was drunk LOL), but those voyager are one tier below her Aurora. Also as a matter of fact, it is implied that they have the potential to even surpass her (but then I have to go into detail once again, and honestly, describing all of these might become a whole fucking essay at this point) and the worst part is... we do not even know how they truly look like. We just simply see their ''witch forms'', so in other words: what we seen as them is just not who they exactly truly are, they are holding up what they truly are. So imagine if there was a time moment that they exposed their true form, I do not even want to know how ridiculous that is going to be, because what we already have seen of them is already ridiculous (if we go into ''power'' concept alone) enough and they fucking do this just for giggles. They are not even trying, which, also was stated by Bernkastel and Lambdadelta at the tea party.
In the end, those are tier 1-A outverse + characters and Tier-0 (Aurora reached tier 0 at the point and met the ''creator'' hence she falls into that category partially, however she decided not do due to reasons that I could explain here, but I do not want to get much into detail. am certain you get the point and in case not then you can PM me and I could explain it all to you).
Regardless, the only VS threads you will actually see from them is characters that have a similar concept, powers and tier system to Umineko (for example, Marvels/DC stories, think about TOAA and the likes or SCP-3812 etc.)
But then again, IMO battles where never meant to be something for Umineko nor thats even the whole main point. It would make absolutely no sense to introduce these characters into any kind of batte because it is legimately not even comparable. In fact, while I love these three and I would have definitely support them, I legimately see no point why one would nominate such fucking ridiculous beyond OP characters in a simple ''tenkaichi'' battle. It destroys the whole purpose of the whole event, lol.

Sinbad is definitely multiversal from what i know.Would Sinbad be also considered multiversal since, if he was left to his devices, he would have broken through the ceilings of the countless multiverses and higher dimensions and onwards, probably at some point popping out of the manga and with Ugo's magic theory he would have switched places with Shinobu Ohtaka lol![]()
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I am very well aware what Dies Irae is and know also what kind of abilities they posses. I do not deny that those are multiversal lvls nor do I deny their powers they possess because they are also fucking silly OP af. However let's look it from this pov: to compare one of them with the voyager witches or Featherine herself is the same as trying to hit the moon's reflection with a stone in the lake and hoping it will do damage to the real moon.Well like Umineko you can compareCthulhu Mythos,Dies Irae.These 2 are the strongest from what it seems apart from Umineko.Apart from those you mentioned.
And possibly Anos might reach that level if the author makes him stronger and stronger.
What about Azathoth then?I am very well aware what Dies Irae is and known also what kind of abilities these posses. I do not deny that those are multiversal lvls, but to sum it up short: to compare one of them with the voyager witches or Featherine is the same as trrying to hit the moon's reflection with a stone in the lake and hoping it will do damage to the real moon.