Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2021] - Discussion and ToC Talk

[Stivie]

For all of his genuine problems, that one that honestly is not a big deal and is a rather unfair criticism. It's something that is very common with esl speakers where nouns are gendered in many non-English languages.
Also, I believe he simply runs his native language through Google translate so it's something he probably isn't even aware of.

You don't have to do all this theater just because I don't think agravity boys are a good syfy.
Even though I say that the manga was a good comedy, you insist on this silly pursuit.

 

[Konja9]

Typically they make up for it other ways, such as an ongoing manga to promote.
Neverland no longer had a manga.

And when looking at some series, like MHA, One Piece, etc. they’re entire full force juggernaut franchises, in which the anime promotes the manga, merch, video games, movies etc.

And iirc, I think it was discussed itt before that overseas streaming is huge for Food Wars, which contributes a lot to its success

In itself, Blu ray and DVD sales aren't so important for an anime, since it would be only a little part of the profits. However, I don't think the promotion of the manga is so important for the anime either (unless editorial is a big sponsor for the anime).

I've understood the merchandise sales are one of the most important things for an an anime. After all, the sponsors want to sell the merchandise.


I guess TPN anime doesn't have good merchandise sales either rigth?

 

[SharkBait]

Typically they make up for it other ways, such as an ongoing manga to promote.
Neverland no longer had a manga.

Dont really get your point. Its not like the manga went out of print. And using your definition, it would make no sense to animate series that are concluded by the time an anime airs or has ended. Why make more kimetsu no yaiba anime seasons and movie when the manga was over? Why return to animate more haikyuu? Why make the final season of BLeach when the manga has been over for year? Why make a new slam dunk movie when the manga and its rerelease are done with? Why animate two seasons of muhyo and roji, a manga that ended long ago, surely it wasnt just to sell a very short continuation? Why animate chainsawman and Astra Lost in Space when both manga were concluded before the anime aired a single episode?

Continuing to animate promised neverland resulted in manga sales remaining ongoing. There was and still is merchandise being released, the live action movie to sale, and potentially the western movie, and the mobile game. Furthermore in the age of stage plays, many series still get them even after the manga has concluded. There is still money to be made post a manga concluding and the mangas still remain in stores and buyable.

 

[savethecat]

Dont really get your point. Its not like the manga went out of print. And using your definition, it would make no sense to animate series that are concluded by the time an anime airs or has ended. Why make more kimetsu no yaiba anime seasons and movie when the manga was over? Why return to animate more haikyuu? Why make the final season of BLeach when the manga has been over for year? Why make a new slam dunk movie when the manga and its rerelease are done with? Why animate two seasons of muhyo and roji, a manga that ended long ago, surely it wasnt just to sell a very short continuation? Why animate chainsawman and Astra Lost in Space when both manga were concluded before the anime aired a single episode?

Continuing to animate promised neverland resulted in manga sales remaining ongoing. There was and still is merchandise being released, the live action movie to sale, and potentially the western movie, and the mobile game. Furthermore in the age of stage plays, many series still get them even after the manga has concluded. There is still money to be made post a manga concluding and the mangas still remain in stores and buyable.

Kimetsu No Yaiba is in a completely different stratosphere in terms of profits on all fronts. It would be insane not to adapt more. Chainsaw Man hasnt Benefited from an anime boost at all. (same with Astra Lost In Space)

Neverland already had its boost. And while more anime seasons still technically promote the manga, with no new volumes coming out, existing fans aren’t just gonna buy the volumes again. anime rarely pull in a second huge boost with new seasons. And anime onlies deep into Season 3 and beyond are likely to just stay anime only at the point(if anything, the anime not receiving more seasons is more insensitive for anime only ppl to buy the manga). Anime still probably helps sells more than hurts them, but at a certain point it’s probably not pulling in crazy numbers.

Slam Dunk is one of the best selling manga of all time, along with Bleach. In terms of franchise size, they’re significantly bigger than Neverland. On top of that, the Bleach arc being adapted was in high demand.
on top of that, it’s common or companies to bring franchises back years later after ppl have forgotten about them, or stopped giving it as much attention, as a way to revitalize interest and sales. I wouldn’t be shocked if Neverland got rebooted years later as well.

 

[ZersEditor]

I wouldn’t be shocked if Neverland got rebooted years later as well.

I mean, it is quite respected in Japan, so receiving a reboot in say 5 years is not really impossible. The fans just need to keep their support going for that time.

 

[Konja9]

Kimetsu No Yaiba is in a completely different stratosphere in terms of profits on all fronts. It would be insane not to adapt more. Chainsaw Man hasnt Benefited from an anime boost at all. (same with Astra Lost In Space)

Neverland already had its boost. And while more anime seasons still technically promote the manga, with no new volumes coming out, existing fans aren’t just gonna buy the volumes again. anime rarely pull in a second huge boost with new seasons. And anime onlies deep into Season 3 and beyond are likely to just stay anime only at the point(if anything, the anime not receiving more seasons is more insensitive for anime only ppl to buy the manga). Anime still probably helps sells more than hurts them, but at a certain point it’s probably not pulling in crazy numbers.

Slam Dunk is one of the best selling manga of all time, along with Bleach. In terms of franchise size, they’re significantly bigger than Neverland. On top of that, the Bleach arc being adapted was in high demand.
on top of that, it’s common or companies to bring franchises back years later after ppl have forgotten about them, or stopped giving it as much attention, as a way to revitalize interest and sales. I wouldn’t be shocked if Neverland got rebooted years later as well.

As I said, there is more on anime than promoting manga sales.

Merchandise sales are essential for an anime success, since that's the main profit for the sponsors.

If TPN has "low" merchandise sales, it isn't weird TPN doesn't have a third season. It would also make difficult a reboot in the future.

 

[tirakai]

A large part of anime profit these days is streaming licenses, and a show that's really popular overseas like Neverland is going to do just fine there.

I don't buy that explanation at all, it's a whole lot of assumptions based entirely around one thing that isn't nearly as relevant these days as it used to be (BD sales).

 

[Vizard]

Spoiler: Dragon Quest: The Adventure Of Dai #16-17 (New Edition)

 

[Rukasu]

 

[Neala897]

So 30 in japan and 20 outside. Now thats what you call worldwide popularity

 

[Mankichi Togawa]

 

[SharkBait]

So 30 in japan and 20 outside. Now thats what you call worldwide popularity

in 2020 it was 5mln in America, wonder what its at a year later, and if we know any other countries.

 

[Vizard]

Spoiler: Sakamoto Days #1

Spoiler: Build King #1

Spoiler: Boku to Roboco #3

 

[WyldViolet]

You don't have to do all this theater just because I don't think agravity boys are a good syfy.
Even though I say that the manga was a good comedy, you insist on this silly pursuit.

I was literally sticking up for you there, but okay.

 

[Mankichi Togawa]

My Hero Academia is finally in the tier of the important-legacy Jump manga.

 

[tirakai]

Spoiler: Build King #1

Build King's volume cover is seriously one of the dullest I've ever seen, just the two characters in simple poses on a plain white background. It feels like he just reused a drawing of the two he had lying around.

 

[Ebrietas-]

So they changed the cover in the last minute. This is the first time I see this happening

 

[Franz]

My Hero Academia is finally in the tier of the important-legacy Jump manga.

This, however, considering global sales.

 

[Neala897]

This, however, considering global sales.

This, however, considering money,

 

[perroloco]

Wow, I am genuinely surprised by MHA sales. 30 mill Japan + 20 mill worldwide it's a crazy ratio, like most other manga usually have at least 85% of their sales in Japan. I think this might be the beginning of a trend, with streaming also becoming more and more important for anime... Or maybe it was just My Hero Academia, because that title really appealed to the superhero genre that was so successful worldwide.

For example, the recently announced the Black Clover movie I think 90% of the reason it was made it was because even if it probably won't be super hot in Japan, it has a worldwide audience... And I think Black Clover's worldwide anime-only watchers audience worldwide is quite big, it's probably bigger than any other series that has run in Jump in the last 5 years, I think, and I am counting One Piece too, like I think Black Clover probably has the biggest audience worldwide.