Games Mafia Game 90: Guilty Gear -Strive- END GAME

[Vandred]

Will wait for Vindred's explanation on why he didn't go protect Gry last night, but both him and Asako are suspicious on my eyes. there is also marms, but let's see. So far I trust Panda and Juvs. Desin seem to be a little more believable now too.

Hold on now, let's not lose focus. The one thing we can be certain about is that desin was saved hard on D2 by lynching an INNOCENT CHILD ffs. He's not believable in the least, he's just buying time. His claim is fabricated around knowing Demon's role and making up an explanation for his own role's unlikely existence.

We have the number advantage right now, but remember that we can't throw townies at the wall and still expect to win. It's nice to think it's 7 vs 1 at the moment, but in the event that it's 6 vs 2, one of whom is a Mafia Noble, our chances of victory go down considerably if we mislynch today.

 

[Marmalade]

Also @Asako - What made you pick Gry as a target? I'm curious, since it's quite likely that he'd be targeted at night

 

[Vandred]

Theres plenty of options, he can have been recruited, assuming theres a mentor, he can have been blocked to be framed, his role may have been stolen.

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oh my bad he answered

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who did you protect @Vandred then ?

Juviii -> Gry -> Gry.

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While we're on that topic, would you mind sharing your own, Erin?

 

[Erinyes]

@Vandred what do you think of asako s claim and actions ?

@Juviii did you check on Farf ?

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While we're on that topic, would you mind sharing your own, Erin?

Nope, at least not now, i need more answers before. but i will definitely eventually.

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i need to update the recap, but my connection is awful right now. i ll try to do it in a couple of hours.

 

[Vandred]

@Vandred what do you think of asako s claim and actions ?

That I can relate? lol

I suppose her reaction could come off a little contrived, but she looks like regular townie Asako to me =3= And the simplest explanation for why the kill evaded everything works for her action, too. Of course one could argue that she might have known that herself...

 

[desin24]

Hold on now, let's not lose focus. The one thing we can be certain about is that desin was saved hard on D2 by lynching an INNOCENT CHILD ffs. He's not believable in the least, he's just buying time. His claim is fabricated around knowing Demon's role and making up an explanation for his own role's unlikely existence.

We have the number advantage right now, but remember that we can't throw townies at the wall and still expect to win. It's nice to think it's 7 vs 1 at the moment, but in the event that it's 6 vs 2, one of whom is a Mafia Noble, our chances of victory go down considerably if we mislynch today.

Why is everyone acting as if an Innocent Child claim on D2 should make you untouchable? Hindsight is 20/20 for a reason. Demon must have suspected a Spy being in the game with eyes on him after that last-second change and he still went ahead and lied about his target simply to incriminate me. "Saving" people to incriminate them is standard mafia behavior. Could have voted Marm all day on D2 with very weak arguments just like there were weak arguments for my lynch. It was D2 and we had what? 5 pages of discussion? Definitely a great basis to make well-informed decisions that look great in hindsight.

 

[Juviii]

Welp should have expected that the current killer would be sitting on unused tension since Demon must have killed both the previous times. Guess this doesn't change much anyway, I doubt Gry would have got any conclusive evidence on anyone but desin tonight, and he'd be gone tomorrow. Still hurts though



I said I distrusted you on D2 no? That was after you said you trusted Gry and Panda because you thought they were Masons. Since you hinted you had a role you dislike that left you with zero motivation on D1, I thought you just had to be Mason Recruiter '3'
So on N1 I went for you mainly because I thought it would make something of a B-rank combo if you had killed yourself on someone like Recruiters always seem to do lately, so at least I'd know you weren't targeted directly. And the additional reason rwas... that I didn't want to tank a kill so early, so I went for a low-risk target /3\


(As for that second part, Gry's role says Spy, so it was neither stolen nor Mason-erased. Gotta say that's what I got from Erin's hint yesterday too though, so no idea what she's been up to.)


As for N2, I did go for Gry thinking, again, that it would be a little preferable if I didn't die then and there but finally got to use the BG's second effect, which is the day protection. One of the first things I mentioned yesterday was that the role lineup seemed too strong for a weak mafia, so I thought there was either sneaky TPs or some hidden power role for mafia, so either a Traitor or a Mafia App which could, you never know, turn into Assassin Since the last time Daws did that it, um, didn't go very well. However, I forgot we'd changed it so the new role only unlocks at night time, so lying about my target was useless in the end

Mason recruiter would fit my hint pretty well actually. But not a good reason enough to end my life

Also you didn't answer Gry if you had understood Farf's hint or not.

@Erinyes yes, but got nothing new.

@desin24 so what do you think of Marm, since she is a bit in the same situation as you?

 

[Vandred]

Why is everyone acting as if an Innocent Child claim on D2 should make you untouchable? Hindsight is 20/20 for a reason. Demon must have suspected a Spy being in the game with eyes on him after that last-second change and he still went ahead and lied about his target simply to incriminate me. "Saving" people to incriminate them is standard mafia behavior. Could have voted Marm all day on D2 with very weak arguments just like there were weak arguments for my lynch. It was D2 and we had what? 5 pages of discussion? Definitely a great basis to make well-informed decisions that look great in hindsight.

Because it should? Especially if you claim your reveal is on D4 like DD said, not D7 or something meme like that. There's no way Demon had put himself under the spotlight that blatantly if he didn't need to save a teammate, even the Mafia Noble was brought along. If Demon thought of a Spy, why would he kill on N2? Especially if his good unlock was Janitor, which supposedly had you as a counter.

If you were town, none of the mafia should have any reason to avoid your lynch. "What, there's no Janitor kill, I don't buy it, die pls" and you're done, 299 IQ mafia move. Much easier than having to justify lynching an IC leading to an inevitable mafia lynch like Demon's was.

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Also you didn't answer Gry if you had understood Farf's hint or not.

I wasn't on when they asked me, and the day ended before I got back.

 

[Erinyes]

Why is everyone acting as if an Innocent Child claim on D2 should make you untouchable?

Because Innocent child claim is supposed to make you untouchable at least, till the moment the host confirm the status , Unless theres some irrefutable proofs like a spy who found an action, or something like this, theres no reason to lynch an IC claim.

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why would anyone want to lynch a confirm townie , unless if they are mafia ?

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i meant a "confirmable" townie

 

[Asako]

Also @Asako - What made you pick Gry as a target? I'm curious, since it's quite likely that he'd be targeted at night

Cuz i thought he could be blocked, i didn't think (hope) he be killed considering van said he protect him so thought they kill van first
Even if killed i thought i could try getting him considering at least i tried
Also erin about not using my action N2, is it really that weird ?
Honestly went with farfalla recommendation of leaving it late game to save a role

Also i didn't use inst but cancel considering i assume gry could use psych
Maybe i should use inst but how do i know if gry won't do it considering he had a high chance of being killed
So mafia either use inst and gry didn't do anything, or i was just unlucky or i was blocked maybe they wanted to save marma as i said i go for her or whatever but that could also mean that van a fake BG if they use a block on me


Btw in an other topic, i still distrust desin, no way there investigator in a small game when there a chance of apprentice of not upgrading to it
Even if apprentice have a janitor, it's rather useless at this point where he get it with 1 mafia considering everyone could revealed by that point
Summary to my rumbeling: janitor is useless in a small game if he can only use it after two nights.... Everyone could already revealed by that point so no investigator


So votekill desin


Btw Erin what's your role again?

 

[Copy Panda]

Van has posted a couple of walls, did he concretely explain why he didn't use +1 priority protection on Gry yet? I skimmed sth of the previous page and saw he lied? Tf Vindred?

 

[Marmalade]

I think he said he did use it on Gry actually.

Willem, have you found anything spicy last night? :3

 

[Asako]

Btw i believe we have 2 mafias left not 1
I believe mafia have an escort and robber left
It could explain them bypassing van
Wel anyways i more willing to leaving him be considering I'm sure desin scum

As i said, no way investigator in this game, plus i feel like demon det result was just him trying to save one of them with that fake result considering they messed up hard D2
Demon did start a whole new bandwagon on DD that made no sense the last hour to save desin afterall


But @Erinyes did you ever mention your role or I'm just dumb and I missed it?

 

[Erinyes]

But @Erinyes did you ever mention your role or I'm just dumb and I missed it?

I said i wont say above.

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at least for now when times comes i will reveal everything.

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sorry for the empty post, my internet sucks.

 

[Copy Panda]

Desu and his prediction apprentice might become janitor I think is too exact. The fact Demon roped him as well is strange too. Sure, Desu should die but who is the last one? Given Gry died I'm not so sure about Van and his late reveal anymore

 

[Erinyes]

Maybe i should use inst but how do i know if gry won't do it considering he had a high chance of being killed

True he had high chances of being targetted, but Bg protection is supposed to be Priority 1 he shouldnt have been killed.

 

[Asako]

True he had high chances of being targetted, but Bg protection is supposed to be Priority 1 he shouldnt have been killed.

It's not tho ? It's P2
The only thing that P1 is blockers

 

[Marmalade]

Also, again, the insta-mechanic might have messed that up

 

[Copy Panda]

If he used his insta power it would have been P1. It's kind of ridiculous that not only did Van not use insta, but the mafia actually targeted Gry to kill him. If Van isn't lying, they must have used insta and won the coinflip, which is rather unnecessary

 

[Asako]

... that dumb mechanic.... You're right that probably what happen.....

GRY YOU SHOULD USE PSYCH