Fantasy EOS Zoro vs Kaido

[Nie Li]

Nah, Zoro will be Extreme-Diff, he doesn't have stats on other areas to face Kaido on his own. I using canon, not headcannon like your side on how they act when someone disagree with you. Thinking Kaido gets one-shot doesn't make sense and illogical if you think that.

You're putting words in his mouth. Mid diff ≠ one-shot.

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Also, what is this about using canon or headcanon... Wild claims for someone arguing that knocking out a man that had no more haki and is already so badly hurt that he was already on the ground is "oneshotting" him.

In this thread you guys are discussing about a headcanon topic. None of us know what will happen at EOS.

 

[King Moe]

You're putting words in his mouth. Mid diff ≠ one-shot.

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Also, what is this about using canon or headcanon... Wild claims for someone arguing that knocking out a man that had no more haki and is already so badly hurt that he was already on the ground is "oneshotting" him.

In this thread you guys are discussing about a headcanon topic. None of us know what will happen at EOS.

Still won't have easy time. Midd-Diff doesn't make sense either. Also if Zoro face Kaido as he was, it still be easy win for Kaido. Current Zoro wouldn't able to compete if Kaido got serious.

Though saying easily beating Kaido at EOS isn't likely as seems disrespectful there.

 

[Nie Li]

Still won't have easy time. Midd-Diff doesn't make sense either. Also if Zoro face Kaido as he was, it still be easy win for Kaido. Current Zoro wouldn't able to compete if Kaido got serious.

Though saying easily beating Kaido at EOS isn't likely as seems disrespectful there.

This thread is not about current Zoro

 

[King Moe]

This thread is not about current Zoro

I know. Though be honest. Current Zoro wouldn't last much in the fight. If one on one, Low-Diff. EOS Zoro, we have to see. Though Idk if he be Yonko lvl or at least he will not be above of Whitebeard and Shanks, I don't see that.

 

[Grandmaster Woro]

I know. Though be honest. Current Zoro wouldn't last much in the fight. If one on one, Low-Diff.

You are just derailing the topic, then.
Anyway, EoS zoro should win. Current zoro can give scar like oden. EoS zoro would be able to do more.

 

[King Moe]

You are just derailing the topic, then.
Anyway, EoS zoro should win. Current zoro can give scar like oden. EoS zoro would be able to do more.

Thanks to Enma, not much on his own skill especially Zoro had help on Law moving him around. We can debate how strong he is, but Idk if he beating Kaido easily on 1 on 1. Mixed if he reach there or not.

 

[Grandmaster Woro]

Thanks to Enma, not much on his own skill especially Zoro had help on Law moving him around. We can debate how strong he is, but Idk if he beating Kaido easily on 1 on 1. Mixed if he reach there or not.

if you want to dismiss zoro feat only because of enma, then i can also say what sanji did to page one and king are only due to raid suit.
Zoro is swordsman, it's still his feat for what happened to kaido. Not saying zoro wins easily here, but he still wins

 

[King Moe]

if you want to dismiss zoro feat only because of enma, then i can also say what sanji did to page one and king are only due to raid suit.
Zoro is swordsman, it's still his feat for what happened to kaido. Not saying zoro wins easily here, but he still wins

Thing is Enma can be use by anyone with high Haki. Give it to Kaido and same thing. Hard to see amount skill on that while RS is more complex on its side.

I can see Zoro winning too, but same time he was in teams to be able to scar him in first place. How he does in one on one is different and Kaido is very challenging when he is serious.

 

[Grandmaster Woro]

Thing is Enma can be use by anyone with high Haki. Give it to Kaido and same thing. Hard to see amount skill on that while RS is more complex on its side.

I can see Zoro winning too, but same time he was in teams to be able to scar him in first place. How he does in one on one is different and Kaido is very challenging when he is serious.

See, just like you said, you need to have high haki to use enma. Not anyone can use it. Meanwhile RS gives free powerup to anyone regardless of their haki skills. Wearing it instantly makes you can sustain more damage.

Well, at least you admit that zoro can win this

 

[Nie Li]

Law had nothing to do with Zoro cutting Kaido, so I don't know why this guy keeps mixing him in to diminish the feat.

 

[King Moe]

Law had nothing to do with Zoro cutting Kaido, so I don't know why this guy keeps mixing him in to diminish the feat.

I using him as Law was one of main reason he could move around to and away from Kaido. Zoro isn't that fast, mobile, stamina, etc.. on different stats. Without Law to saved him, he won't be able to stay longer in a fight and tanked hits either.

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See, just like you said, you need to have high haki to use enma. Not anyone can use it. Meanwhile RS gives free powerup to anyone regardless of their haki skills. Wearing it instantly makes you can sustain more damage.

Well, at least you admit that zoro can win this

Nah, many can't use RS unlike Enma which make RS more skill while Enma is more easy access on anyone with Haki.

I mean I see Zoro and Sanji maybe touching Yonko level around Big Mom and Kaido, but again have to see, but know they be close to Luffy being PK Tier.

 

[Nie Li]

I using him as Law was one of main reason he could move around to and away from Kaido. Zoro isn't that fast, mobile, stamina, etc.. on different stats. Without Law to saved him, he won't be able to stay longer in a fight and tanked hits either.

When did Zoro ever need Law to dodge Kaido? He only moved Zoro out of harms way twice:
1- When the combined Big Mom + Kaido attack that only Zoro managed to react to in time (he was faster to block it than Law to do a simple shambles, yet he chose to save them all and block it for a while).
2- When Zoro was slicing Prometheus and wasn't even intending on dodging Kaido.

Either way, what does any of that have to do with Zoro cutting Kaido? There were different times of the fight. Zoro parried Kaido away three times before slashing his chest, despite Zoro being half dead and almost out of haki. That in itself is an amazing feat and Law had nothing to do with it.

 

[King Moe]

When did Zoro ever need Law to dodge Kaido? He only moved Zoro out of harms way twice:
1- When the combined Big Mom + Kaido attack that only Zoro managed to react to in time (he was faster to block it than Law to do a simple shambles, yet he chose to save them all and block it for a while).
2- When Zoro was slicing Prometheus and wasn't even intending on dodging Kaido.

Either way, what does any of that have to do with Zoro cutting Kaido? There were different times of the fight. Zoro parried Kaido away three times before slashing his chest, despite Zoro being half dead and almost out of haki. That in itself is an amazing feat and Law had nothing to do with it.

Nah, 3 times. He moved him to help get close to Kaido into the sky, help Zoro from getting killed by Hakai (It's not a block. I don't take your credibility if you think Zoro could tank and survive that), and again when Kaido for first time focus on him, Law protected him and it shows as he got one-shot easily from his club and before you say 'Oh he has got damage prior, so make sense'. So did Luffy many times, but he still standing after club strkes and same for Kidd and Law. If we talking durability, he hasn't shown he can handle Yonko's attack especially if Kaido choose to 'try'.

He never parried him away anything to be honest and cut was due to Enma with it being only sword to harm him. I am talking about Law helping him in moving and getting to attack and dodge, without him there, Zoro wouldn't have done actions he did if he was in one on one fight with Kaido which is true.

 

[Nie Li]

Nah, 3 times. He moved him to help get close to Kaido into the sky, help Zoro from getting killed by Hakai (It's not a block. I don't take your credibility if you think Zoro could tank and survive that), and again when Kaido for first time focus on him, Law protected him and it shows as he got one-shot easily from his club and before you say 'Oh he has got damage prior, so make sense'. So did Luffy many times, but he still standing after club strkes and same for Kidd and Law. If we talking durability, he hasn't shown he can handle Yonko's attack especially if Kaido choose to 'try'.

He never parried him away anything to be honest and cut was due to Enma with it being only sword to harm him. I am talking about Law helping him in moving and getting to attack and dodge, without him there, Zoro wouldn't have done actions he did if he was in one on one fight with Kaido which is true.

Dude, Zoro was already defeated on the floor and out of haki before Kaido striked him yet you keep calling that strike a "oneshot". It's like you find new ways to be a terrible debater every passing chapter. And Kid never even took a hit from Kaido.

Why do I even quote you.

 

[King Moe]

Dude, Zoro was already defeated on the floor and out of haki before Kaido striked him yet you keep calling that strike a "oneshot". It's like you find new ways to be a terrible debater every passing chapter. And Kid never even took a hit from Kaido.

Why do I even quote you.

Again, comparing to those fighting in same fight, not much excuse as you expect not to get harm or using energy in a fight? Luffy was tired from G4, but back to fighting and tanked his hit while Zoro couldn't on his side. There is difference of who can actually handle in a fight and one on one, It's hard to see that on Zoro even in EOS, so just saying truth, not making this up like you are on him able to 'block' Hakai' and ignoring Law saved him and could have die.

It's truth, not headcannon.