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That Build King cover is just sooo Toriko, it gave me some nostalgia, a lot better than the first one, HSF cover is also pretty nice, expecting at least some thousands of copies more, is impossible to not grow after all this rising in the rankings.

Yozakura getting a imediate reprint for vol 8 makes a lot of sense considering the weird drop out of Shoseki.

Cop & Dolphin ending in 3 chapters, well, not really surprised and probably is for the best, it will at least go with one of the best and most consistent endings for a "canceled" series, and maybe we can even get some extra stuff on GIGA or the last volume.

Man, not trying to bait anyone, but the cope by OP fans in the post of the WSJ twitter is quite funny, so many comments trying the best to make it look like OP being in 10th place is some kind of achievement because it had only one volume, as if Neverland and Haikyuu aren't above it, but well, the yearly list will be a lot better with new volumes counted.
 

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Top 5 for 2021 Oricon:

KnY : 26,351,483

JJK: 23,797,483

Tokyo Rev: 5,007,825

SnK: 4,635,754

CSM: 4,181,650
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I mean OP only has one volume release for this half year and its backlog boost is not going to be there as its 24 years in and Tokyo Rev is the hottest anime of the past few months, its still nowhere close on per volume basis



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this is why i dont think Jump is ever going to have trouble. somehow, some way, they will find a monster hit like KnY and JJK. they will be fine after One Piece,
 

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That Build King cover is just sooo Toriko, it gave me some nostalgia, a lot better than the first one, HSF cover is also pretty nice, expecting at least some thousands of copies more, is impossible to not grow after all this rising in the rankings.

Yozakura getting a imediate reprint for vol 8 makes a lot of sense considering the weird drop out of Shoseki.

Cop & Dolphin ending in 3 chapters, well, not really surprised and probably is for the best, it will at least go with one of the best and most consistent endings for a "canceled" series, and maybe we can even get some extra stuff on GIGA or the last volume.

Man, not trying to bait anyone, but the cope by OP fans in the post of the WSJ twitter is quite funny, so many comments trying the best to make it look like OP being in 10th place is some kind of achievement because it had only one volume, as if Neverland and Haikyuu aren't above it, but well, the yearly list will be a lot better with new volumes counted.
Look shinuki, I do not think it is impossible for HSF to keep its sales low even with the increase in rank.

We've already seen magu chan in good positions and yet sales haven't grown.
 

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Man, not trying to bait anyone, but the cope by OP fans in the post of the WSJ twitter is quite funny, so many comments trying the best to make it look like OP being in 10th place is some kind of achievement because it had only one volume, as if Neverland and Haikyuu aren't above it, but well, the yearly list will be a lot better with new volumes counted.
It’s karma from all the years where a select group of One Piece fans would look down on other series just because of its superior sales. I’m a fan of One Piece but the Reddit got unbearable at one point because of issues like this.

On another note, the Demon Slayer movie came out in the UK this week and I just saw it. I’m all here for canon movies going forward as it was brilliant.
 

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I thought JUMP is about to face a sells cliff. Without Demon Slayer and Jujutsu happening back to back, I think this year would have been pretty depressing for shonen jump manga. Elusive Samurai has gotta be the next AssClass and two or three other series need to come out the gate running.
 

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Even with just Jujutsu Jump is covered for the year and it's more than probable that Jujutsu will also break One Piece's 2011 sales of 31M. MHA and Haikyuu are also doing good, MHA could still reach 6M with small backlogs from both the season and the movie and Haikyuu could get a boost from a new season although I can't say if it will be for this year or the next.
TES's sales are a thing to take note of, is the 1st volume going to release on June or July?
 

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so glad we have moved beyond Magu chan ending discussions, woot.

think we need a bit more comedy since comedy is hitting it off so well as of late.
Honestly we have enough at this point. I feel jump needs to really step up there spokon game and diversity in general, ngl imo this magazine just isn’t really as exciting anymore so I would rather them focus on non eposodic series more. I would say though I would appreciate a gintama/gto esc manga though. Primarily comedy yet still has that regular shonen intensity also. But I respect your opinion I am not really big on eposodic gag manga unless the manga is spit your water out funny.
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We really live in a time when Magazine title can overcome One Piece in year rankings.
I mean your right but there were times when magazine series actually came close like SDS and AOT (bessatsu magazine at that),
 

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Honestly we have enough at this point. I feel jump needs to really step up there spokon game and diversity in general, ngl imo this magazine just isn’t really as exciting anymore so I would rather them focus on non eposodic series more. I would say though I would appreciate a gintama/gto esc manga though. Primarily comedy yet still has that regular shonen intensity also. But I respect your opinion I am not really big on eposodic gag manga unless the manga is spit your water out funny.
They keep trying sports though and none stick for some reason. I dont understand it as they have been quality sports series :(
 

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I thought JUMP is about to face a sells cliff. Without Demon Slayer and Jujutsu happening back to back, I think this year would have been pretty depressing for shonen jump manga. Elusive Samurai has gotta be the next AssClass and two or three other series need to come out the gate running.
Me wishing for a surpise hxh continuation announcement.
 

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Even with just Jujutsu Jump is covered for the year and it's more than probable that Jujutsu will also break One Piece's 2011 sales of 31M. MHA and Haikyuu are also doing good, MHA could still reach 6M with small backlogs from both the season and the movie and Haikyuu could get a boost from a new season although I can't say if it will be for this year or the next.
TES's sales are a thing to take note of, is the 1st volume going to release on June or July?
One Piece sales were actually 38 million in 2011, does JJK have the legs to reach or exceed that?

I still think it is strange that monsters like Demon Slayer and JJK have made 6 million look basic (MHA is doing fine).
 

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They keep trying sports though and none stick for some reason. I dont understand it as they have been quality sports series :(
Fair it is an aquired taste which is why I feel for marketing purposes it would be wise for jump to give the magazine more diversity. I mean I can’t tell u how incredible every week of shonen jump was when demon slayer, TPN, jjk, yuuna, act age, my hero villan arc, AND CSM were running at the same time and if we want to go back a few months HxH in place of CSM. All of those series can appeal to a different persons while still having the “jump” spirit and asthetic. I think this is moreso what jump needs. Maybe make a story about street dancing or e sports, A martial arts street fighting manga, a space opera action series, maybe even another thriller esque series like tpn. All unique series yet still feeling like jump. Even then I moreso say this for volume sales, nothing will help magazine circulation in itself.
 

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1. Jujutsu Kaisen: I put this in first place but I don't really know why, it's been a week where the highest entries were more or less the same tier. Probably this impressed me because it was way darker than the current Jump standard. Those sketchy pages in the middle left me quite worried, I am with the group that would rather put author health above regular weekly content.
2. Undead Unluck: Shen arc is almost over and we can't say it went by without consequences. The reveal about Miu was also very well presented, I love how the standard tropes are well executed in this manga.
3. Hard-boiled Cop and Dolphin: Apparently it's ending in three weeks but I am not sad, although I will miss it a lot. This is the chapter that describes the darkest hour, I don't really know how Shark can pull it off from here. Glued to the action until the end!
4. Highschool Family: I am surprised as you are to see it ranked at 4th place...and not with a spokon chapter! Gomez drives us in full yankee territory (the typical yankee with a heart of gold) and delivers splendidly. Now we have a new sub-plot, the pet cat of the pet cat.
5. Blue Box: I liked this chapter more than the recent trend, I think I was missing some Taiki-Chinatsu moments without other characters around. Also, we know little to nothing about how Chinatsu feels, I was thinking that it may be interesting to have some chapters from her point of view now.
6. One Piece: Apparently, the war is over and lost. It's been quite a while since last time I felt that the situation was so desperate in One Piece. But isn't it time to resolve the arc instead of complicating it even more? Unless defeat is really the path that Oda wants to take (at this point of the story, though...)
7. Witch Watch: A surprisingly funny chapter. The classroom set works better than any other thing, and I liked that Nico has shown a little development in admitting that Moi isn't interested in her. For the first time the romance plot worked for me.
8. Sakamoto Days: A nice action-packed chapter. Not much to say actually so I'll share this thought: I like how they gave a pseudo-scientific explanation of Shin's powers that was not "there are supernatural beings in this world", thus avoiding the risk that everything will become about strange quirks and power-ups.
9. Candy Flurry: As some of you have already said, this was surprisingly good. Surely a step above the exam arc of Build King, where there were so many characters to show off that the mains were disregarded. Here, with this twist, the focus is on the heroine right from the beginning. Let's see if this series can be saved.
10. Me & Roboco: This was a really funny chapter, it looks like Miyazaki has found his footing once more. The manga reference of the week was well played, but the cherry on the top was Mutsuo taking "Namekian language" lessons.
11. Dr. Stone: After so many weeks at the peak, unfortunately we return to an average standard as we apparently are preparing for a new building arc full of science explanations. I can accept it because it can lead to an extraordinary climax like last time, but I can't rank it high just for that.
12. Mission: Yozakura Family: So, mission completed? I am expecting more from Kawashita's grand exit. We're also getting teased with some very interesting family talk for the next time.
13. The Elusive Samurai: It felt very transitional, but these chapters are of course important for setting up the next battle, so okay I guess.
14. Black Clover: It also felt quite transitional, useful for bouncing from one battlefield to another. I didn't like that the defeated villain hasn't given up, but I liked that a cool character remained behind to take care of him.
15. Ayakashi Triangle: Not a particularly interesting chapter, but I wanted to give it a better rank than usual because, armpit fetish aside, I appreciated that the new battle costume of Suzu is actually a sort of sweater that doesn't reveal anything. It was quite the unexpected trope subversion.
16. My Hero Academia: Unfortunately this battle isn't working for me and the new opponent isn't telling me anything. She appeared out of the blue and at this point of the stage you shouldn't keep introducing characters left and right.
17. Magu-chan: God of Destruction: Not bad per se, but a bit subpar with respect to your average Magu-chan chapter. A kinda forgettable effort this time around, let's do better next time.
18. Mashle: My negative bias towards Mashle is well known at this point, and I have to add that I was not a fan of the magic of the week. I kind of liked the clever trick used by Lance to counter its effect.
19. Nine Dragons' Ball Parade: It hurts a little to put it this low. I keep comparing it to Eyeshield 21 and I know that I shouldn't, but over there they have full training arcs to convince us they rebuilt their determination (they were already pretty safe when they were doing that, and that is one of the reasons why I shouldn't compare the two). Here we have a few motivational words and a small timeskip that forces me to shift my comparison to RobotXLaserbeam.
20. i tell c: It is not very good at unravelling the mystery. Apparently, everything went according to their plan all along, and now the formidable thief appears too easily defeated. And what's with Risa's disturbingly provoking poses? I still hope that the thief will be able to escape at the end.
 

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Not surprised with KnY being #1 and hopefully it retains that ranking since the final volume offered a fantastic conclusion. One of the better battle shonen endings in this magazine since like Toriko tbh.

I don't think the CSM anime is coming out this year
It most likely will air this year. We got the visual in Dec. so it's probably going to air this fall. JJK was a similar case as it's first visual was released in Dec. 2019 and we got the anime in fall 2020. That'll help it catch up with Revengers and secure #3 spot, unless Revengers explodes even more in popularity with it's live action movie.
 

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MANGAHELPERS "TOC" POLL ISSUE #26 (2021) - VOTING

The thread for Poll and Comment Voting is open HERE!

The extra series this week are:

-Spy x Family 47
-Agravity Boys Extra Final Chapter
-Kaiju No.8 35
-Excuse me Dentist, It's Touching Me! 26
-Ron Kamonohashi: Deranged Detective 24


Good Votes!
 

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Any guesses on who will be in the upcoming(probably) batch?
 

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No ID info for Kowloons or ITC?
 

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No ID info for Kowloons or ITC?
All series had four except Cop and Dolphin, which had three. So we don't know for sure but they'll probably end the week(s) after.
 
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