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Sorry, this took a while >_< Wanted to extensive player reviews, but now that the next game has started, I figured I'd keep it short after all

Thank you again for participating, everyone! Those who spent time playing, those who won, those who hosted and even the spectators; all of you together made this a fun experience! The death pad at times vitriolic, at other times, just toxic (as it should be). I'll go over some stuff here, cover the broad strokes.


👨‍🚒 👩‍🚒 Mechanics and Balance 🦸‍♂️ 🦸‍♀️

Compared to what you guys got, my earliest proposals for this mechanic were actually much more demanding of the players. For better or worse, Noona's input balanced the game out by taking away a considerable amount of decision-making. Personally, I'm a spice man, but over the course of hosting a couple of games now with her, I think I've grown to not just respect but incorporate some of her game-design ideas/preferences into my own. A few more games and I'll be Brazilian Corruption'd so much, I can apply for a passport.

At the base of it all was Noona's inverse janitor idea, whereby only death could reveal your role. Though presumably harder on newer players, across the board, it decidedly did influence the player approach towards the game. Maybe the most noticeable effect was that the players were deprived of just enough information to focus on the actual behaviour of others. Sure, some of the mafo made spicy claims, but maybe the lack of information across the board did more to help the noobies than not knowing hampered them.

The Burning Building stuff I think I produced a week or week and a half before the game started. We spent like 3 years trying to figure this out, our styles and personalities clashing constantly. 'We' here also includes Poopler and Marms who had their own ideas and inputs. The building idea I thought would have incorporated most ideas. The voting-for-your-role bit became the central part of the design, with us hoping that nearly everybody would know their role by the time D4ish would come around.

Initially, our ideas on how to arrange the First and Second floors differed. I personally wanted different effects for both floors, with only one floor being the Reveal floor (but revealing 5 instead of 3). Noona developed an interesting line of thought here, involving player choice and the idea that the floor capacities should be what Players aim to manage, rather than just the individual choice of what powers to use. This was enforced by the floor only working if a precise amount of people entered. Comparatively, this meant that some amount of people would probably always get their role revealed, which would keep the game moving smoothly.

The Roof Floor revealing Mafia created an interesting situation early around D2ish when the second McDo was revealed. What's painful is that it turned out that was the second Doc hiding amongst you 💀 Btw, in hindsight, I think it would have been better to personally reveal to the mafia member in question that their role got revealed that it was them who was revealed (i.e. let the McDo know they're the McDo once the top floor revealed as such).

The Prosecutor Floor, depending on how actions played out, could have been hidoi. While ofc it was clear that at some point a bunch of Prosecutors could be walking around town, it was scary to consider how many shots could be fired in one day. Personally, 1.) I figured the range of shots would have been around 4 and that 2.) people wouldn't go around cajoling the prosecutors (as they might be mafia killed otherwise). Perhaps it was for the best to force people (Shobu) to shoot but overall, given how valuable the power is, though I can't really imagine town revenge-lynching a reluctant Prosecutor. I mean I ain't y'all but I'd be scared of losing sth important. Though I'm not sure about the minutiae, Tatsu who was in the room with Eri then proceeded to kill her :lmao

Oh yeah, the Ground Floor, where y'all started, initially was supposed to randomly poison one of the leavers 💀 In the end, we settled on Hot Potato being more Player-friendly. My idea was that people who failed to enter another floor would just end up here again, but RNG'ing you onto another floor was deemed, again, more Player-friendly (which is true). So, as far as the mechanic goes, all I can say is I'm happy we managed to figure out sth that was acceptable to all four of us lol ç__ç

As for balance, there were a few hiccups here and there. While some players got shafted accidentally (Pomcha), intentionally (Sakura), stupidly (Sam) and some others didn't use their role altogether (Lamb, Van), a central complaint we've received has to do with the amount of mafo in the game. Personally, I think the mafo should have had it quite rough, and simply played out the end-game well (though they had a couple of advantages going into this game-state).

The most important dynamic here that, admittedly I personally at least, didn't fully consider, was that the number of player-kills per night (if all of them go through i.e. are unblocked etc.) will only go down once the full team has been slain. That's to say, in the Red case, for instance, only once Desu died, would there be one night-kill less. Sure, losing (wo)man-power sucks, especially if the role attached to the name was strong, and it sets you back half-a-phase in meeting your wincon, but notably, the killing power of mafo doesn't go down. Because of this, even with the Red implosion and lack of mislynching by town, so long purple avoided stacking their kills with Red (through prediction or just prestidigitation), they'd able to piggyback on their killing powers. It is not like we didn't attempt to balance this; with the abundance of prosecutor powers and another party out to kill them without having Doc immediately available, they were at risk. It's just that so long town consistently culls one team, and neither mafo focuses on killing their counterpart, ironically, the remaining team 'absorbs' the momentum.

Some other balance concerns or mishaps will be touched on in the following section. Lots of it has been discussed in pads on disc. If there's something else that I didn't cover here and wasn't discussed on disc, ofc feel free to point it out here on the thread and we can discuss it​

🚒 🚑 Players 🔥💀

16. sakura_aneki as Shoto | Mafia Boss | Lynched D1
It is unfortunate you died quite early and set off a cascade. Uh, I don't think you did yourself a lot of favours by locking so early, but, in the same vein, it's not entirely fair to hold you being killed by your own fam against you. Sure, anyone could have killed you bc of this move, but it shouldn't have been your own guy. I suppose 'lesson learnt' for next time; can't trust anyone in this game 🗡


1. GrySun as Lemillion | Mafia Detective | Killed N1
One of our resident favourites, unfortunately, was slain in single combat. The only non-town to be slain by another at night, in fact. A little saddening, though not entirely unexpected. Since your killer signed up for next game, surely you'll have a chance at revenge this time around 💀


15. Holt as Ingenium | Detective, Traitor | Lynched D2
Insane Det with (Naive) Traitor is (one of) my 'preferred' builds; it gives the player two things to figure out by using the same mechanic. They have some room for diagnosing their situation through their own volition. Given your unfortunate early death, however, this little mini-game never came to fruition. It is a little saddening you died a sacrificial lamb; technically you were the only mislynch in-game


24. Evil3ye as Shinso | Doctor, Super Mason | Killed N2
Though it has been mentioned many a time that Eripan couldn't target easy, since the Super Mason secondaries weren't hidden, Eripan had a couple of targets to pick from (should they declare, which they did). So while purely number-wise she was in a tough spot, eligible targets could somewhat vouch for themselves. Funnily enough, she actually picked a 'hidden' Super Mason (Jinx), who lied to everyone (including Eri) so that she could play the part of a cleansed townie. I think you were next on the recruit list, Evil, or pretty high up there at least. Hopefully, you get to play a bit longer next time


11. Shad as Deku | Mafia Doctor | Lynched D3
A few... miscalculations... Here and there... You did redeem yourself though, and almost all actions you took were considerably spicy. I liked the rogue PGO claim, though maybe it was a little too early to make that sort of claim. Nonetheless, fun to see, though I imagine it less delightful to be on the receiving end of your dagger lol


6. JamesRye as Cellophane | Apprentice, Prosecutor | Killed by Failed Prosecutor attempt D3
You even said 'Ah I hope I ain't the Apprentice' :lmao I never quite got why you chose to shoot Erichi btw :0


9. Lady Pompom as Creati | Psychiatrist, Hot Potato | Exploded D3
Sorry you exploded a phase too early, Pomcha ç___ç Your main role was supposed to detect secondaries, verify such claims, maybe pressure the traitor who was still unsure of their position. In an earlier iteration, there were also Lovers that you could find, but we determined that could create a pad overload for two very unfortunate players. In the end, you were kept in so that you could snuff out the eventual Traitor, or draw attention to players hiding their secondary like Jinx. Sorta ironic the secondary-spotting power... was killed by a passable secondary


2. Erinyes as Pinky | Mason Recruiter, Prosecutor | Killed N3
You got done dirty Eripan, and you died an ironic death; after surviving the Prosecutor shot, you got killed as soon as you got your own hands on it. It beats suiciding on the role, though. At least you recruited someone? ç__ç


18. Asako Gryffindor as Froppy | Mafia Poisoner | Lynched D4
Thank you for subbing in Gryff! Your predecessor lowkey fucked up your position but thanks to Shad's heroics and your way with words you managed to pull through and live to shitpost another day. Hopefully next time you join you start out less compromised 🙏


17. Shobu_Yoruichi as Chargebolt | Mafia Detective, Prosecutor | Killed by Failed Prosecutor attempt D4
I think you should have been slightly more patient XD You got peer-pressured into shooting, and I respect you doing so, but you should have been more patient anyway. I didn't think a Mafia would risk it. And if I had, personally, I might have Shadded one of my own. Ofc, it was also more or less your first game, and you were in a tough position (unlike your other noobie counterparts, you were mafia). Oh, also, I like how you took the Bankai part of the explanation seriously and actually publically went Bankai xD It's unfortunate that last-hour rule was invoked on you, that slightly hurt your credentials probably, but props for the flair. Spice good


7. Lambu as Red Riot | Detective, Sickly | Killed N4
Some raised the Sickly v unknown role point, and personally, I disagree with the notion that Sickly made the primary role unusable. Especially on the first night, when Sickly'ing someone was not much better than RNG D1 vote, I myself at least would have used my role to see if there was feedback. I can see the cost-benefit part that comes from choosing between using Det and Sickly, but you didn't know your primary at all until you died ç__ç Ofc I can understand your position, but I didn't think a player would opt into not trying their main role at all. Sth for us/me to consider next time.


4. Crescent Jinx as Nejirechan | Spy, Super Mason | Killed N4
Interesting ploy, hiding your Spy status from everyone. A notably powerful strategy and quite believable at that. Eventually, you became a target for your information retention skills LOL, another kind of information gathering I suppose. V dangerous


3. SirSamuel016 as Vantablack | Mafia Poisoner | Lynched D5
If I could have made a top 5 worst roles to claim in your position, I think Troublemaker might just be on there. It bought you another day, but at what cost? LOL Other than that, I liked your presence in the Floor pads. It was kinda funny how at some point (I think N3 or 4 or sth) you entered the room, all 'heyo what's up' and 12 people all at once started attacking you. I'd say 'poor guy' but you bullied me a lot so...


14. Juviii as Uravity | Jesus | Killed N5
Juvling has noticeably improved; compared to earlier games where you passively trolled town by pulling a Shinoona on us and going poof. I'd (we'd) say you're much more involved now. Furthermore, it's not naive aggression but pretty accurate remarks and to-the-point arguments. Sure, you were confirmed, but your gameplay itself might have warranted a kill at this point in the game anyway


5. Demonspeed Vandred as Tsukuyomi | Hider | Killed N5
Thank you Vindred for subbing in for Demon! You were quite important in that you were a sub for a townie, not a mafo (which usually is the case). Hopefully, precedent now has been set that any kind of player can be subbed in, not just mafia lol. Did you have any developed thoughts on how to handle subbing in better (things that make it easier or faired for the sub in to fit in)? Curious if you do. Unfortunate situation with you missing the timing to PM your action ç__ç Game might have looked a bit different had you submitted, but who can tell how much tbh. As usual, solid and balanced play. Had the game gone on a little longer you could have even deployed a Vanplan or two.


10. desin24 as Shemage | Mafia Escort | Lynched D6
The final Red to die. You did quite good tbh, surviving or as long as you did. Especially your fighting spirit shone through 🔥 I feel like you roll prosti more often than Taku or sth at this point lol


19. Avietar as Battlefist | Mortician | Killed N6
Ahh, we had a few miscomms in our PM concerning role usage, but overall, I'm happy you were as active as you were! You had a slightly harder role to figure out the purpose of (which... you might have had on N3 iirc if not for the miscommunication >_<). Overall, I liked how you did your best and stayed in the pads till quite late in your timezone xD Good stuff


21. digitaldude as Invisible Girl | Bodyguard | Lynched D7
Ahh I felt very bad receiving your PM's DD. At multiple points, I think not just me, but the other hosts as well would have wanted to PM you, assuring you your actions went through and that we didn't forget or whatever. It just was your role that didn't give you any feedback ç__ç Towards the end the more experienced players managed to capitalize on the attrition damage the chibis took and paint you as suspicious.


8. SonOfDaws as Earphone Jack | Mafia Boss | WINNER
Very involved in the mafia pads, scheming it out. I liked your play by the end, fucking up floor pad. I suppose any mafo could have done it, but I think that act greatly contributed to the momentum-seeking chibis losing their footing. Had they had a pad to discuss and consolidate, they might have turned against you guys in a fury. Pretty good job on staying separated from the others till the end; I'd have to go back and check but I don't think many players had an end-game in mind that linked you to Lawl or Tatsu.


12. Maryxxi as Suneater | Prostitute | LOSER
Similarly to Avi, I liked your activity a lot! Even when you were asking questions, they were well-thought-out inquiries that clearly indicated some level of research and understanding of the game. Like the other chibi's, you were mostly hampered by lack of experience and not having role list info at the ready (both of which can be helped in few games). Your targeting was decent (as well as equal parts tragic when you got blocked by the mafo prosti). I hope you stick around for more games later 🙏


13. Tatsumaki as Real Steel | Mafia Doctor | WINNER
Was the part about you having to go to the station for wi-fi real? That's some real MVP-level dedication LOL Tbh you were pretty invisible (as a mafo) for the vast majority of the game and even towards the end you weren't really suspected. You fit in naturally and were excluded from most end-game mafo rosters. Good stuff


20. Equaling Heaven as PhantomThief | Bulletproof | LOSER
I think on thread the most inquisitive townie! Aggressive forward play, asking questions and producing theories. play like a noob (though then again you didn't last game either). In a few more games I think you'll have a much better understanding of the possibilities available. GG 🙏


22. Zirconium as Dynamight | Banshee, Super Mason | LOSER
Like Mary, I liked the questions you asked. Really didn't come across as a first-time player of sorts. I hope you keep playing and try your luck at solving the murder mystery next time ç__ç


23. Tsar Blyatinum as Lizardy | Mafia Escort | WINNER
Hyung-nim simply can't be mafia :blush I think hyung did a good job staying under the radar and keeping it together throughout the game. I feel like usually you'd have attracted more attention, but similar to the Titan game, even as a mafo you sat it out. Your targeting was quite good too. In terms of grit, Tatsu probs did 'best', but in terms of performance, you're up there!
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VOTELOCK ASAKO

Yes I'm trying to tie this to talk it out more because we don't want to mislynch here
 

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End of Day 2!

Votes

"Pow! How many civilians have been saved so far?"

"Barely any, actually. They took out a bunch of villains, though. They're all very riled up."

"They're arguing a lot. Bullying each other. I think I saw some recreational backstabbing going on in the back. "

"..."

"*cough* There's too much smoke. I'm dying"

"But someone has to announce the next death!"

"Oh, yay! It's finally my time to shin-"

"!!!"

"P-P-Pow!! And another youngun is fresh outta luck't and kicks the bucket!"



Holt
Detective
Traitor



🔥 Burning Building Mechanic 🔥
For future reference, if you share a PM with others, please send in Role and Floor actions into a personal PM
You will be guided towards the next floor shortly
A Timer will be added shortly
Please be civil in pads



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End of Night 2!

"Zzzzz Pow! zzzz"

"..."

"Zzzzz *cough* pow... zzzzzz"

"(Interesting, they pow and transform in their sleep)"

"Now is my time to shine!"

"Go for it!"

"Alright! Finally! I've been waiting so long to do this! Alright everyone, pay atten-"

"!!!"

"Pow-wow!! I can't believe what happened in the burning building tonight!! Young Evil was slain in a moment of confusion! POW! And then Young Powcha got too close to the fires and was blown to smithereens. POTATO POW!"

":)"



Evil3ye
Doctor
Super Mason



Lady PomPom
Psychiatrist
Hot Potato

"Alright, alright, you do the next Pow-nouncement"

"Oh, sure, why n- AND NOW LADIES, GENTLEMEN AND OTHERS, THREE PHASES LATER, FROM THE ASHES OF COUNTLESS DEAD CHILDREN, NOW RISES THE OFFSPRING OF YE LAWD ALMIGHTY!!"

"Ahem"

"POW!!!"



Juviii
Jesus
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Through the Roof-Top effect it was revealed that a MAFIA DOCTOR was on the first floor! (yup, that's correct)






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DAY 3 ENDS IN

Tsar Blyatinum said:
votekill Asako

Nothing has really changed since yesterday, we really need to kill mafia this DP. Her and Crescent are not looking good atm, especially after the holt thing
SirSamuel016 said:
Votekill Asako
Erinyes said:
i wanted to wait asako & shad to appear, but i will n have to go to work soon so for now, i cant see shad being Md, but if theres any new info i will change it later. @James Rye feel free to prosecute me, i dont mind it at all, but i wont die if you do.

Votekill asako
digitaldude said:
votekill asako it appears asako is the mafia doctor.
I can attest to everything Equaling Heaven said about the pad of floor 2 last night 👍 she and I were there until the very end as watchdogs and nothing happened to the votes, everyone did what they said they would do.

Interesting convos happening today...
For now, votekill Asako / Froppy.

I agree that today, prosecutors should use their power. I am sad about having lost Evil, it was a great time in the pad last night.
Time to set things straight and get rid of at least 1, preferably more mafia!
if erin was in fact on rooftop then our priority are mafia doc suspects aka shad and asako/gryffindor for now. this still does not make erin less suspected of being mafia.
hope we can get an answer from an investigator about whoever does not get lynched out of these 3 today.
for now VOTE KILL ASAKO/GRYFFINDOR
Heya guys, so guess hosts forgot about me, someone suppose to replace today but they still didn't announce it so here i came instead.

Btw space Jesus, i knew you be back

Anyways yea I'm in floor 1 but I'm not the only one there, shad and erin with me.
Honestly now i believe it's shad, no way it's erin considering how gry acted with her, so that leave shad
With shad, the only reason he trusted is because of his snipe on sakura but don't forget the fact when he did it, he wrote top 10 anime betray
I don't think one under normal circumstances will write that when voting so votekill shad
i ll be gone for now so im gonna LOCK VOTEKILL Gryffindor (is that how u lock ur vote?) in case things start going south.
and reminder : WE NEED 5 MORE PPL ON THE 1ST FLOOR, don't tell me u did not know that that was the plan...
everyone plz state where u are going, im gonna have to update this list later
Votelock Gryff

If you're town Gryff then I'm sorry but I highly doubt it. You made good points about Shad and I do believe they need to be followed through by a lynch next day phase or by a prosecutor, but as for you you're calculated with what you say and it's very similar to when you guided me through my first Mafia game (FGO game). Add that into the self-inflicted damage when Asako was at the helm and it's too much to ignore.

I'm off for the night, good luck town and fingers crossed a prosecutor shows up and does something lmao
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Do remember to keep track of where we're all headed floor-wise too 👀
Votekill Gryffindor in the meantime. Sucks as a welcome but I blame fate :emocat
Guys, chill, am back from a very long day, 5 hours sleep, 1 hour drive to work 13 hours work cause nobody came to relase me, driving home, take a bath, cook, eat, sit down and read through shittons of "Where is James?" posts! GIMMEABREAK!!!

I WILL USE PROSECUOR ALRIGHT!? I SAID SO LAST NIGHT SO I WILL!!!!

Jesus.
Also you guys are mean for trusting me more for saying less than usual. *sniff*

Anyway, I votelock Gryf.

No use to waste my ability on Asako/Gryf now, so I gonna use it on either Shad, Erin, Daws or Jinx. I think I gonna take up Erin's challenge and PROSECUTE ERINYES FOR BEING FLITHY MAFIA!!! @MarmaladeSky @Copy Panda etc.

There, happy?
I also gonna go to first floor. If I don't die this day I wanna know my role, deal? And if I die I will know my role, so yolo~ XD
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Oh and Vandred. Also am considering Vandred sus. Can use prosecutor only once though.
Our townie role claimer aka @Equaling Heaven , should he get prosecutor this night to prove his claim by using it the next day? Either he dies as townie proving another townie or he gets a mafia and then we can rest (mostly) easy with him.
@Shobu_Yoruichi come join the gun fest.

Since Gryffindor fate is sealed I might as well just vote the prosecutor that didn't prosecute as a warning for tomorrow.

Votekill Shobu
Players of note:
Asako
- Her case on paper is pretty simple or at least it was until the switch. Her decision to save herself by voting up DD instead of Sakura, who we now know to be a mafia boss, is telling, HOWEVER, there's a key detail that is being overlooked: Similar to my reason for voting DD that very same day phase, DD voted for her first and she returned the favor. This doesn't clear her though. In fact, Asako could have been mafia or at least guilty right alongside Sakura and perhaps even DD and, still, her reasoning would be fairly reasonable. So, the suspicion due to the Day 1 vote is yet again iffy on its own, but there's also the mafia reveals. The mafia doctor revealing have effectively narrowed down the mafia doctor possibilities to Asako or Shad. It's hard for me to say which is guilty. I'd say Asako's postings are less self-centered and defensive, but on paper, Shad obviously looks better with a decisive mafia votekill under his belt. Both look poorly though and are certainly worth the number 1 and 2 spots in terms suspicion.

Votekill Asa-dor

HOWEVER...

Shad - Stemming from my thoughts on Asako, Shad killed a mafia and hasn't otherwise made any suspect lynch pushes, but this is tied with the fact that his PGO claim only continues to make less and less sense as I make more sense of the mechanics. Not only do we likely have two mafias, but also, a prosecutor factory. That's A LOT of potential death that can occur in the game. Plus, townies are going to be wildly targeting players left and right just to figure out what they would usually already know at the start of most Mafia Games, so having a PGO in the game punishes players for being active in the game and just trying to figure out the basics of the game. Role claims aside, I don't know as much about playing with Shad as I do hosting games he's in, but It seems like he's notably more absent this game and when he does show up, it's usually very defensive or comments lacking much substance. This could just be as a result of the amount of time he's had to play and, if so, I feel ya there, but still, I think he's vote-worthy.

Still, while one of them coming up scum would add to the evidence of their possible innocence, this does NOT clear Asa-dor or DD and I'm perfectly fine with with Asa-dor being lynched today, but Shad's defensiveness, unsubstantial posts, and PGO claim stick out to me as suspect independant of what Asa-dor flips as. I could change my mind though and if I heard more about your thoughts on the players in the game, @Shad , then I think you could clear yourself in my mind. Otherwise, lynch-able today and tomorrow.

On the flipside, same to you Asa-dor ( @Gryffindor ). I know you're in a tough spot and I'm a bit annoyed with the nebulousness myself, but your thoughts on the players in the game would be valuable and could certainly change my vote as well as others.


DD - I don't have nearly as much to say about DD, but he's certainly been an interesting figure this game. I think the D1 votes aren't of much note, but his behavior certainly strikes me as notably more distance and nowhere nearly as inflammatory and assertive as his posts usually are. He's certainly suspect

Erin & James - If Erin isn't scum 'You're not going anywhere. You're dead' just might be my new sig.

Side note: If Lady Pompomnter to them, I think it is likely that we have a pair of lovers in the game. This won't matter much this phase or the next, but we need is a psychiatrist, then I seriously doubt that role was added to this game simply to find out who the sickly is. Given that the role is meant as a couto stay on the lookout for any dynamic duos that may be trying to manipulate town to their own ends.
Catching up right now, votekill Shobu_Yoruichi for not being as manly as James.
Hi @Gryffindor Welcome, hope you enjoy your stay!!




Votelock Gryffindor


@Zirconium i'm going to 2nd floor.
Dejm, deez haterz yo. So many joining an easy pile and moving on, disappointing

And not even prosecuting Shad? Hella fumbles, hella picks.


It seems like Sam is the one controlling the narrative here, pick n' choose Town's flow from what little I gathered. Still think we should lynch Shad, and it's really not too late:

The idea that Asako defended Sakura doesn't hold much weight, not to the extent the accusers expressed:
1) She was one of the first to correct Sakura(#193, #200). The mistake and subsequent back and forth with Evil3ye is what caused Sakura to climb up, if the issue was that delicate I would expect Mafia to avoid, not address, or imply defense like GrySun did. All she did was express the thought that she could be an angry Townie because she wasted her 2nd vote instead of holding on to it, which would've been essential for Sakura in hindsight and is a perfectly reasonable thought process.

The idea that she avoided lynching Sakura, or instead chose to save herself.

Flat out wrong:

#399



^Not mafia attitude imo.

-Doesn't make sense to prefer saving Sakura if we assume we share a mafia team because the roles are unknown.
-Doesn't make sense to leave things up to fate if you are a Mafia, numbers game and all. Her being careless fits in more with her attitude of not sure of being able to play due to her personal situation.

Another thing:
She clearly voted DD out of spite, DD put her top D1 (#380) she responded in kind (#383). Not sure how this amounts to Sakura saving, when at this point Sakura is tied 2nd with 3 other people.

Not sure why people ignored DD's reasoning for voting her up either.

"Saving Sakura" is weak, and by elimination that leaves Shad who is shielded but what ultimately seems to be a stroke of luck from an opposing anti-town. And who has fallen back on that to help his coast thru, I mean, PGO? C'mon now.


Votelock Shad


Other suspects include Rambu, DD, and Sam.


@Juviii @Vandred @SonOfDaws @Lambu and I forget who else, switch to Shad.
votekill shobu/Chargebolt for now

No particular reason other than him stallin prosecutor
A confession ka?...
Votelock Shad.
vote lock shad
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not in the spirit of the game. This is second game mafia gave up. Why do we sign up guys.
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Now I sleep.
Erinyes said:
Votelock shad
Zirconium said:
But why is he giving up like that tho? Argh, nvm...
Votelock Shad

Goodnight.
Vandred said:
Gryff's talk no jutsu is on another level?

Votelock Shad but can't say I'm not disappointed at this turn of events.
avietar said:
Votelock Shad.
Tatsumaki said:
It's a good thing I was able to check the thread one last time because Holy shit.

Votelock Shad ???
Equaling Heaven said:
votelock shad it is then

Funny how word on the streets were "we'll deal with the mdoc today"
Desin24 said:
On D1? No one knew what they were unless Mafia has more information than us. Unnecessarily throwing your mate under the bus would not be something new as we've seen with Lawl and Raven before. Shad mentioning the Top 10 Anime Betrayal meme in that post plus he outright came out as doc. If we lynch the doc we take out night protection from mafia.

votelock Shad
10x Shad
(Gryffindor [#1077], Juviii [#1086], digitaldude [#1089], Desin24 [#1090], Erinyes [#1098], Zirconium [#1100], Vandred [#1101], Avietar [#1102], Tatsumaki [#1103], Equaling Heaven [#1106]
7x Gryffindor
(Tsar Blyatinum [#796], Maryxxi [#912], SirSamuel016 [#991], James Rye [#1017], Lambu [#1042], SonOfDaws [#1062], Shobu_Yoruichi [#1068])

1x Shobu_Yoruichi
(Shad [#1067])




Oh my... it looks like
@Crescent Jinx/Neijire was burned by the flames in this building and got sick.​
 
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Really...
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Evil was indeed havin a very stellar performance. Time to check who was on pompom yesterday to come up with some conclusions, but as promised in the pad I have a few things to post.
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Oh, and before I proceed, I want to know/will ask if the other voted person (besides Evil, who got sniped) had their role revealed.
@Zirconium
 

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Players that were on the 2nd floor:

Crescent Jinx
JamesRye
Maryxxii
Tatsumaki
avietar
Equaling Heaven
Zirconium
Evil3ye

Votes:

3 - Equaling Heaven (Zirconum, avietar, self vote)
2 - Zirconium (Tatsumaki, Maryxxii)
3 - Evil3ye (Crescent Jinx, Self vote, JamesRye)
0 (each) - Crescent Jinx, JamesRye, Maryxxii, Tatsumaki, avietar

Pick methods:

At first we had some talk (on Holt and the possible mdoc candidates), our personal beliefs on the other players present on the pad, I saved the talk in a doc but was informed by host to treat the content as if it was a PM received from them. Paraphrasing is okay but no hard evidence like screen shots or straight up copy paste. Then I proposed to cast the die and let chaos decide it like every player would vote for themselves and then it was up to hosts, but later we decided that it was best to pick a top three (Evil's suggestion) and cast our votes at those who we felt should get their reveal. The reason for my proposal was to diminish the chances of Mafia forcing a role reveal (hints on roles were asked by James as part of the vote decision), getting to know who to prioritize and havin the upper hand. I can't talk on Evil but since he's probably doing the same as I'm doing right now - a note -, he'll give his cents about his decision. I wrote this before the results, guess we won't have evil's speech, sadly.

Behavior of floor denizens:

Everyone, imho, felt very outspoken (even Copan when it comes for his mcdo love). Unlike the first floor scenario, we tried our best to come up with a decision everyone felt comfortable enough with. That said there was no pressure when it comes to vote decision, but there might be some in the fact that we decided that our votes shouldn't be changed + I tried to keep watching if any changes happened 'til the last minute.
 

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What the hell man I'm so pissed at these loss I don't even know where to start from. As I promised in the pad I made a mini review on what happened and now I can focus on trying to get back up.

No reason in hidin anything anymore, I got my role revealed and ofc I am townie. More hints and details will come as the convo/game progress and more people flood this topic.

 

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Evil gone now and he was a Doctor? 😭 With Pom getting potato'd does this mean all mafia targeted Evil?

Good to see you're back though @Juviii , glad that Panda remains a devout follower :)

Top Floor notes:
1. It was a four-way tie for who got the Prosecutor role: 1 vote each to Vandred, Pom, Desin, and Shobu. I can't remember the specifics of who voted for what but I voted for Van, I think Des voted for Shobu, and I think it was Van who voted for Pom. One vote was missing and it might've been Pom's.
2. General topics of discussions were feelings about the game, who our suspects were, and who the role should go to. Ultimately it was left to chance.
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Am I missing something here or has a mafia role not been revealed? 🤔 Don't tell me you guys failed to fill the top floor after we tried to keep tabs on who went where...
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Update again:
Rooftop (3/3):
Tsar Blyatinum (#478)
Digitaldude (#491)
Shobu (#576)
So Shobu ended up on the top floor and not rooftop...

I think i will try to go Top Floor,
:facepalm I am sorry if this is because I fucked my list up
 

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And this brings me to ask two things:

Lambu, you said you aimed for 2nd floor. You didn't made it. Did you really went there and got random or what? Speak on the possibility of a Mafia running to fill before you could join.

DD, did you really went to roof?

@SirSamuel016 can you grab your last list of directions again?
 

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Rooftop (3/3):
Tsar Blyatinum (#478)
Digitaldude (#491)
Shobu (#576)

Top Floor: (0/5):


2nd Floor (6/8):

Equaling Heaven (#481)
Avietar (#489)
Zirconium (#490)
Lambu (#492)
Tatsumaki (#568)
Maryxxi (#569)

First Floor (1/8):
Shad? (#555)
@Equaling Heaven this seems to be one of the most recent ones
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Rooftop (3/3):
Tsar Blyatinum (#478)
Digitaldude (#491)
Shobu (#576)

Top Floor: (1/5):
SirSamuel (#591)

2nd Floor (7/8):
Equaling Heaven (#481)
Avietar (#489)
Zirconium (#490)
Lambu (#492)
JamesRye (#537)
Tatsumaki (#568)
Maryxxi (#569)

First Floor (1/8):
Shad? (#555)
okay this on page 30 might've been the last, still searching
 

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So you really were at top and I didn't lied about going from roof to 2nd.

Lambu wasn't there as I said. I want to know why but I don't think he's around right now. I was so interesd to join fellows in the 2nd floor to reveal some roles, it was a total mistake.
 
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