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Sorry, this took a while >_< Wanted to extensive player reviews, but now that the next game has started, I figured I'd keep it short after all

Thank you again for participating, everyone! Those who spent time playing, those who won, those who hosted and even the spectators; all of you together made this a fun experience! The death pad at times vitriolic, at other times, just toxic (as it should be). I'll go over some stuff here, cover the broad strokes.


👨‍🚒 👩‍🚒 Mechanics and Balance 🦸‍♂️ 🦸‍♀️

Compared to what you guys got, my earliest proposals for this mechanic were actually much more demanding of the players. For better or worse, Noona's input balanced the game out by taking away a considerable amount of decision-making. Personally, I'm a spice man, but over the course of hosting a couple of games now with her, I think I've grown to not just respect but incorporate some of her game-design ideas/preferences into my own. A few more games and I'll be Brazilian Corruption'd so much, I can apply for a passport.

At the base of it all was Noona's inverse janitor idea, whereby only death could reveal your role. Though presumably harder on newer players, across the board, it decidedly did influence the player approach towards the game. Maybe the most noticeable effect was that the players were deprived of just enough information to focus on the actual behaviour of others. Sure, some of the mafo made spicy claims, but maybe the lack of information across the board did more to help the noobies than not knowing hampered them.

The Burning Building stuff I think I produced a week or week and a half before the game started. We spent like 3 years trying to figure this out, our styles and personalities clashing constantly. 'We' here also includes Poopler and Marms who had their own ideas and inputs. The building idea I thought would have incorporated most ideas. The voting-for-your-role bit became the central part of the design, with us hoping that nearly everybody would know their role by the time D4ish would come around.

Initially, our ideas on how to arrange the First and Second floors differed. I personally wanted different effects for both floors, with only one floor being the Reveal floor (but revealing 5 instead of 3). Noona developed an interesting line of thought here, involving player choice and the idea that the floor capacities should be what Players aim to manage, rather than just the individual choice of what powers to use. This was enforced by the floor only working if a precise amount of people entered. Comparatively, this meant that some amount of people would probably always get their role revealed, which would keep the game moving smoothly.

The Roof Floor revealing Mafia created an interesting situation early around D2ish when the second McDo was revealed. What's painful is that it turned out that was the second Doc hiding amongst you 💀 Btw, in hindsight, I think it would have been better to personally reveal to the mafia member in question that their role got revealed that it was them who was revealed (i.e. let the McDo know they're the McDo once the top floor revealed as such).

The Prosecutor Floor, depending on how actions played out, could have been hidoi. While ofc it was clear that at some point a bunch of Prosecutors could be walking around town, it was scary to consider how many shots could be fired in one day. Personally, 1.) I figured the range of shots would have been around 4 and that 2.) people wouldn't go around cajoling the prosecutors (as they might be mafia killed otherwise). Perhaps it was for the best to force people (Shobu) to shoot but overall, given how valuable the power is, though I can't really imagine town revenge-lynching a reluctant Prosecutor. I mean I ain't y'all but I'd be scared of losing sth important. Though I'm not sure about the minutiae, Tatsu who was in the room with Eri then proceeded to kill her :lmao

Oh yeah, the Ground Floor, where y'all started, initially was supposed to randomly poison one of the leavers 💀 In the end, we settled on Hot Potato being more Player-friendly. My idea was that people who failed to enter another floor would just end up here again, but RNG'ing you onto another floor was deemed, again, more Player-friendly (which is true). So, as far as the mechanic goes, all I can say is I'm happy we managed to figure out sth that was acceptable to all four of us lol ç__ç

As for balance, there were a few hiccups here and there. While some players got shafted accidentally (Pomcha), intentionally (Sakura), stupidly (Sam) and some others didn't use their role altogether (Lamb, Van), a central complaint we've received has to do with the amount of mafo in the game. Personally, I think the mafo should have had it quite rough, and simply played out the end-game well (though they had a couple of advantages going into this game-state).

The most important dynamic here that, admittedly I personally at least, didn't fully consider, was that the number of player-kills per night (if all of them go through i.e. are unblocked etc.) will only go down once the full team has been slain. That's to say, in the Red case, for instance, only once Desu died, would there be one night-kill less. Sure, losing (wo)man-power sucks, especially if the role attached to the name was strong, and it sets you back half-a-phase in meeting your wincon, but notably, the killing power of mafo doesn't go down. Because of this, even with the Red implosion and lack of mislynching by town, so long purple avoided stacking their kills with Red (through prediction or just prestidigitation), they'd able to piggyback on their killing powers. It is not like we didn't attempt to balance this; with the abundance of prosecutor powers and another party out to kill them without having Doc immediately available, they were at risk. It's just that so long town consistently culls one team, and neither mafo focuses on killing their counterpart, ironically, the remaining team 'absorbs' the momentum.

Some other balance concerns or mishaps will be touched on in the following section. Lots of it has been discussed in pads on disc. If there's something else that I didn't cover here and wasn't discussed on disc, ofc feel free to point it out here on the thread and we can discuss it​

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16. sakura_aneki as Shoto | Mafia Boss | Lynched D1
It is unfortunate you died quite early and set off a cascade. Uh, I don't think you did yourself a lot of favours by locking so early, but, in the same vein, it's not entirely fair to hold you being killed by your own fam against you. Sure, anyone could have killed you bc of this move, but it shouldn't have been your own guy. I suppose 'lesson learnt' for next time; can't trust anyone in this game 🗡


1. GrySun as Lemillion | Mafia Detective | Killed N1
One of our resident favourites, unfortunately, was slain in single combat. The only non-town to be slain by another at night, in fact. A little saddening, though not entirely unexpected. Since your killer signed up for next game, surely you'll have a chance at revenge this time around 💀


15. Holt as Ingenium | Detective, Traitor | Lynched D2
Insane Det with (Naive) Traitor is (one of) my 'preferred' builds; it gives the player two things to figure out by using the same mechanic. They have some room for diagnosing their situation through their own volition. Given your unfortunate early death, however, this little mini-game never came to fruition. It is a little saddening you died a sacrificial lamb; technically you were the only mislynch in-game


24. Evil3ye as Shinso | Doctor, Super Mason | Killed N2
Though it has been mentioned many a time that Eripan couldn't target easy, since the Super Mason secondaries weren't hidden, Eripan had a couple of targets to pick from (should they declare, which they did). So while purely number-wise she was in a tough spot, eligible targets could somewhat vouch for themselves. Funnily enough, she actually picked a 'hidden' Super Mason (Jinx), who lied to everyone (including Eri) so that she could play the part of a cleansed townie. I think you were next on the recruit list, Evil, or pretty high up there at least. Hopefully, you get to play a bit longer next time


11. Shad as Deku | Mafia Doctor | Lynched D3
A few... miscalculations... Here and there... You did redeem yourself though, and almost all actions you took were considerably spicy. I liked the rogue PGO claim, though maybe it was a little too early to make that sort of claim. Nonetheless, fun to see, though I imagine it less delightful to be on the receiving end of your dagger lol


6. JamesRye as Cellophane | Apprentice, Prosecutor | Killed by Failed Prosecutor attempt D3
You even said 'Ah I hope I ain't the Apprentice' :lmao I never quite got why you chose to shoot Erichi btw :0


9. Lady Pompom as Creati | Psychiatrist, Hot Potato | Exploded D3
Sorry you exploded a phase too early, Pomcha ç___ç Your main role was supposed to detect secondaries, verify such claims, maybe pressure the traitor who was still unsure of their position. In an earlier iteration, there were also Lovers that you could find, but we determined that could create a pad overload for two very unfortunate players. In the end, you were kept in so that you could snuff out the eventual Traitor, or draw attention to players hiding their secondary like Jinx. Sorta ironic the secondary-spotting power... was killed by a passable secondary


2. Erinyes as Pinky | Mason Recruiter, Prosecutor | Killed N3
You got done dirty Eripan, and you died an ironic death; after surviving the Prosecutor shot, you got killed as soon as you got your own hands on it. It beats suiciding on the role, though. At least you recruited someone? ç__ç


18. Asako Gryffindor as Froppy | Mafia Poisoner | Lynched D4
Thank you for subbing in Gryff! Your predecessor lowkey fucked up your position but thanks to Shad's heroics and your way with words you managed to pull through and live to shitpost another day. Hopefully next time you join you start out less compromised 🙏


17. Shobu_Yoruichi as Chargebolt | Mafia Detective, Prosecutor | Killed by Failed Prosecutor attempt D4
I think you should have been slightly more patient XD You got peer-pressured into shooting, and I respect you doing so, but you should have been more patient anyway. I didn't think a Mafia would risk it. And if I had, personally, I might have Shadded one of my own. Ofc, it was also more or less your first game, and you were in a tough position (unlike your other noobie counterparts, you were mafia). Oh, also, I like how you took the Bankai part of the explanation seriously and actually publically went Bankai xD It's unfortunate that last-hour rule was invoked on you, that slightly hurt your credentials probably, but props for the flair. Spice good


7. Lambu as Red Riot | Detective, Sickly | Killed N4
Some raised the Sickly v unknown role point, and personally, I disagree with the notion that Sickly made the primary role unusable. Especially on the first night, when Sickly'ing someone was not much better than RNG D1 vote, I myself at least would have used my role to see if there was feedback. I can see the cost-benefit part that comes from choosing between using Det and Sickly, but you didn't know your primary at all until you died ç__ç Ofc I can understand your position, but I didn't think a player would opt into not trying their main role at all. Sth for us/me to consider next time.


4. Crescent Jinx as Nejirechan | Spy, Super Mason | Killed N4
Interesting ploy, hiding your Spy status from everyone. A notably powerful strategy and quite believable at that. Eventually, you became a target for your information retention skills LOL, another kind of information gathering I suppose. V dangerous


3. SirSamuel016 as Vantablack | Mafia Poisoner | Lynched D5
If I could have made a top 5 worst roles to claim in your position, I think Troublemaker might just be on there. It bought you another day, but at what cost? LOL Other than that, I liked your presence in the Floor pads. It was kinda funny how at some point (I think N3 or 4 or sth) you entered the room, all 'heyo what's up' and 12 people all at once started attacking you. I'd say 'poor guy' but you bullied me a lot so...


14. Juviii as Uravity | Jesus | Killed N5
Juvling has noticeably improved; compared to earlier games where you passively trolled town by pulling a Shinoona on us and going poof. I'd (we'd) say you're much more involved now. Furthermore, it's not naive aggression but pretty accurate remarks and to-the-point arguments. Sure, you were confirmed, but your gameplay itself might have warranted a kill at this point in the game anyway


5. Demonspeed Vandred as Tsukuyomi | Hider | Killed N5
Thank you Vindred for subbing in for Demon! You were quite important in that you were a sub for a townie, not a mafo (which usually is the case). Hopefully, precedent now has been set that any kind of player can be subbed in, not just mafia lol. Did you have any developed thoughts on how to handle subbing in better (things that make it easier or faired for the sub in to fit in)? Curious if you do. Unfortunate situation with you missing the timing to PM your action ç__ç Game might have looked a bit different had you submitted, but who can tell how much tbh. As usual, solid and balanced play. Had the game gone on a little longer you could have even deployed a Vanplan or two.


10. desin24 as Shemage | Mafia Escort | Lynched D6
The final Red to die. You did quite good tbh, surviving or as long as you did. Especially your fighting spirit shone through 🔥 I feel like you roll prosti more often than Taku or sth at this point lol


19. Avietar as Battlefist | Mortician | Killed N6
Ahh, we had a few miscomms in our PM concerning role usage, but overall, I'm happy you were as active as you were! You had a slightly harder role to figure out the purpose of (which... you might have had on N3 iirc if not for the miscommunication >_<). Overall, I liked how you did your best and stayed in the pads till quite late in your timezone xD Good stuff


21. digitaldude as Invisible Girl | Bodyguard | Lynched D7
Ahh I felt very bad receiving your PM's DD. At multiple points, I think not just me, but the other hosts as well would have wanted to PM you, assuring you your actions went through and that we didn't forget or whatever. It just was your role that didn't give you any feedback ç__ç Towards the end the more experienced players managed to capitalize on the attrition damage the chibis took and paint you as suspicious.


8. SonOfDaws as Earphone Jack | Mafia Boss | WINNER
Very involved in the mafia pads, scheming it out. I liked your play by the end, fucking up floor pad. I suppose any mafo could have done it, but I think that act greatly contributed to the momentum-seeking chibis losing their footing. Had they had a pad to discuss and consolidate, they might have turned against you guys in a fury. Pretty good job on staying separated from the others till the end; I'd have to go back and check but I don't think many players had an end-game in mind that linked you to Lawl or Tatsu.


12. Maryxxi as Suneater | Prostitute | LOSER
Similarly to Avi, I liked your activity a lot! Even when you were asking questions, they were well-thought-out inquiries that clearly indicated some level of research and understanding of the game. Like the other chibi's, you were mostly hampered by lack of experience and not having role list info at the ready (both of which can be helped in few games). Your targeting was decent (as well as equal parts tragic when you got blocked by the mafo prosti). I hope you stick around for more games later 🙏


13. Tatsumaki as Real Steel | Mafia Doctor | WINNER
Was the part about you having to go to the station for wi-fi real? That's some real MVP-level dedication LOL Tbh you were pretty invisible (as a mafo) for the vast majority of the game and even towards the end you weren't really suspected. You fit in naturally and were excluded from most end-game mafo rosters. Good stuff


20. Equaling Heaven as PhantomThief | Bulletproof | LOSER
I think on thread the most inquisitive townie! Aggressive forward play, asking questions and producing theories. play like a noob (though then again you didn't last game either). In a few more games I think you'll have a much better understanding of the possibilities available. GG 🙏


22. Zirconium as Dynamight | Banshee, Super Mason | LOSER
Like Mary, I liked the questions you asked. Really didn't come across as a first-time player of sorts. I hope you keep playing and try your luck at solving the murder mystery next time ç__ç


23. Tsar Blyatinum as Lizardy | Mafia Escort | WINNER
Hyung-nim simply can't be mafia :blush I think hyung did a good job staying under the radar and keeping it together throughout the game. I feel like usually you'd have attracted more attention, but similar to the Titan game, even as a mafo you sat it out. Your targeting was quite good too. In terms of grit, Tatsu probs did 'best', but in terms of performance, you're up there!
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Learning banshee is the same as bp. First you learn the banshee but then you need a second night to choose someone to banshee. Besides if zirconium is mafia and tatsumaki isnt either she joins mafia as insane apprentice or just dies. @Equaling Heaven thats why its better to just learn from you. Then have a protected aviater check erin to see if tatsumaki is legit.
 

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Fair enough.
 

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I'm glad you understand why am I picking you. It could've been anyone. In fact, I would like to lynch zirc because if she's a banshee as she claim to be, I can potentially take down a mafia with her. Thing is there's probably only two purples left + 1 traitor if dd mirrored mafia theory is the truth.
One of you prostitutes are the traitor in my mind. Although I agree that you were the one bringing the lynch to sam, why he ignored you and moved to desin then?

I know mafia talk in a pad, but are you telling me that Mafia is more organized because of this? Shad betrayed Sakura and shot his own foot to save Gryff. Showbu tried to prosecute a red outta nowhere and ended up revealing himself as the first of the purple team. Sometimes you have to sacrifice a teammate in order to gain townie's favor and keep yourself alive enough to act. I don't get why you think I would label you as red when I been very persistent on the idea that they met extinction.
Very sound ideas i like them but, it is not uncommon to kill your own teammate on day 1, and i repeat on day 1 , doing it on day 5 makes no sense. Once again, i wasnt in any danger, yet i saw Sam’s lie, now i am not sure whether i got lucky or not. You say Sam didnt react, but he did ask me for my targets straight away. Killing desin was his only way to rebuild the trust with town and then turn you guys around on me. Coincidentally , its how things turned out sadly after all…

i am very glad you dont see me as red atleast lol, but they are not done since hosts would have announced it with gryffs death
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Also i used my ability on banshee since i thought this was a very convinient cover up, but i am not sure on this one. She did look very pro town for the whole game
 

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@Maryxxi
It’s not like I chose to ignore those posts of yours but we have like around 1.800 posts here in this thread. I did read your suspicions about Juviii and Vandred. It’s just if I’m not namely mentioned, then I generally tend to skim through most of the posts, so excuse me for not noticing your accusations right away when I wasn‘t even tagged in the posts you quoted in #1.732.

About the Juviii and Vandred issue there are quite a few possibilities that come to mind:
  1. As mentioned by most of you already, Vandred might have used his role and hid behind Juviii. Let‘s assume that he knew about his role. Even if he somehow had any assumptions about it, I don‘t think that he would intentionally hide behind her since she was a confirmed townie. Would you hide behind one? Think about it, confirmed townies have a higher chance to die than those who are not confirmed. It‘s in the mafia‘s interest to have as many suspicious players available as possible since it‘s easier for the mafia to hide among the non-confirmed-townies. So I rule out this possibility.
  2. Other scenario: Let‘s assume, he thought he was having a protective role. From my perspective, would I have targeted Juviii then, solely based on an assumption? Probably, yes. He certainly used his ability all these previous nights before on other ppl as well and since nothing happened on either of them, he was at least certain that it was a passive/protective role. This seems to be more likely than the first option.
  3. Then there is your scenario where you think that there are still two mafia teams left. So you think I‘m either red or purple and tried to do a kill last night, correct? In other words, if you hadn’t blocked me, you’d think that there would have been 3 dead ppl last night? I highly doubt it. Let‘s just do the math: We already have 4 red (sakura, Gry, Asako/Gryff, Shad), 2 purple (Sam, Shobu) and 1 traitor (Holt). DD or someone else already mentioned the possibility of a mirrored purple team. Would there really still be one member of the red team left? Because if so, then we potentially might have 3 purple left which is just insane. It’s crazy enough that there are so many mafia. I just think that the chances of the red team already gone is highly likely. Besides, is it common for a mafia team (purple) to only have two members (Sam, Shobu)? Did it happen before?
I, myself, am not really convinced that Vandred was targetting Juviii last night but it could still be in the range of possibilities.
 

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So do we kill desin?
I think it's interesting how you've suddenly become collected and cooperative since a few pages, maybe because you are really feeling the heat.

Why should we all vote Desin and not you? I'd like to see a bigger reply from you defending yourself.

@desin24 same for you, who should we vote for and why should it not be you?

Let's see, Zirc is already posting.

@Tatsumaki ?
@SonOfDaws ?

I think Tsar already left for the day if I remember correctly, am on my phone so will check in a moment.

Who else do we need to hear from?
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Yes Tsar left for the remainder of the day phase.
 

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If we are killing desin we do this.

Heaven do nothing.
Aviater target erinyes.
I am bodyguarding aviator.
Tatsumaki is learning from heaven.
mary is blocking anyone except me and aviator.
Same with goodboy.
zirconium do whatever.
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@Maryxxi
It’s not like I chose to ignore those posts of yours but we have like around 1.800 posts here in this thread. I did read your suspicions about Juviii and Vandred. It’s just if I’m not namely mentioned, then I generally tend to skim through most of the posts, so excuse me for not noticing your accusations right away when I wasn‘t even tagged in the posts you quoted in #1.732.

About the Juviii and Vandred issue there are quite a few possibilities that come to mind:
  1. As mentioned by most of you already, Vandred might have used his role and hid behind Juviii. Let‘s assume that he knew about his role. Even if he somehow had any assumptions about it, I don‘t think that he would intentionally hide behind her since she was a confirmed townie. Would you hide behind one? Think about it, confirmed townies have a higher chance to die than those who are not confirmed. It‘s in the mafia‘s interest to have as many suspicious players available as possible since it‘s easier for the mafia to hide among the non-confirmed-townies. So I rule out this possibility.
  2. Other scenario: Let‘s assume, he thought he was having a protective role. From my perspective, would I have targeted Juviii then, solely based on an assumption? Probably, yes. He certainly used his ability all these previous nights before on other ppl as well and since nothing happened on either of them, he was at least certain that it was a passive/protective role. This seems to be more likely than the first option.
  3. Then there is your scenario where you think that there are still two mafia teams left. So you think I‘m either red or purple and tried to do a kill last night, correct? In other words, if you hadn’t blocked me, you’d think that there would have been 3 dead ppl last night? I highly doubt it. Let‘s just do the math: We already have 4 red (sakura, Gry, Asako/Gryff, Shad), 2 purple (Sam, Shobu) and 1 traitor (Holt). DD or someone else already mentioned the possibility of a mirrored purple team. Would there really still be one member of the red team left? Because if so, then we potentially might have 3 purple left which is just insane. It’s crazy enough that there are so many mafia. I just think that the chances of the red team already gone is highly likely. Besides, is it common for a mafia team (purple) to only have two members (Sam, Shobu)? Did it happen before?
I, myself, am not really convinced that Vandred was targetting Juviii last night but it could still be in the range of possibilities.
What I think is happening is that the mafia teams are mirrored. The red team recruited their traitor and he is the last member. The purple team still have their mafia boss. So we have 2 mafia left.
 

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zirconium do whatever.
Lol. Btw, are there any other players besides desin who are sus to you atm?

What I think is happening is that the mafia teams are mirrored. The red team recruited their traitor and he is the last member. The purple team still have their mafia boss. So we have 2 mafia left.
Maybe, but what if there was only one traitor in this game? This role doesn‘t need to be necessarily mirrored imo to balance this game. As in, whichever mafia team reaches out to the traitor first has the advantage. Does it make sense?
 

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Lol. Btw, are there any other players besides desin who are sus to you atm?


Maybe, but what if there was only one traitor in this game? This role doesn‘t need to be necessarily mirrored imo to balance this game. As in, whichever mafia team reaches out to the traitor first has the advantage. Does it make sense?
I think tatsumaki is the final mafia but it needs to be confirmed tonight. There is also the two prostitutes which seems very strange.
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Maybe, but what if there was only one traitor in this game? This role doesn‘t need to be necessarily mirrored imo to balance this game. As in, whichever mafia team reaches out to the traitor first has the advantage. Does it make sense?
Traitor
  • Can be put on any Townie role, but it is up to the host to make a reasonable role for a Traitor and to not count him as a town player in terms of balance (ie. if he is the only Doctor then Town has no Doctor at all, since the Traitor is pro-Mafia and is expected to act as such)
  • In case of multiple mafia teams he only gets the names of the mafia members of one mafia team which he is a Traitor for, and can only be recruited by that team. Being killed by the other team kills him
  • If all members of his mafia die before the Traitor gets recruited, the Traitor dies immediately (if the last member died at Night, Traitor dies at the start of Day)
not how the game works.
 

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vote kill aviator feel like this is the last of the mafia.
I am bodyguarding aviator.
????

In any case our voting is all over the place and there is 2 hours left. It would be good to decide who we go for.
I'm all for desin since I'm convinced he's mafia but I would be fine with DD too.

For now Votekill desin.

Don't forget to all request the first floor. If even one person doesn't it's goodbye pad for all of us.
 

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Reasons why you shouldn't lynch me? Well it might not be the worst lynch in case I'm sleeper but since we had a traitor the chances are low. Also I would join a second mafia member who would still be able to kill regardless of my recruitment or not. Today is the last day a mislynch is still acceptable. I remembered someone talking about a hider and though that Vandred had his role revealed but it doesn't seem so. That would explain why he may not have hidden and ended up as a second kill. With 2 kill parties and lynching me you'd start D7 with 6 Players unless mafia kill each other or target the same person. That leaves at least 2 mafia vs 4 townies for D7.

I'll vote for one of the two "prostitutes" it hurts to lose a whore but it would make the next lynch a 100%er in case we are wrong today. Thus making the chances higher that we win in the end. If you lynch me today and then tomorrow need to take the risk of which whore is mafia it's a 50/50 gamble on whether we kill the right one or lose the game for sure.
 

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Reasons why you shouldn't lynch me? Well it might not be the worst lynch in case I'm sleeper but since we had a traitor the chances are low. Also I would join a second mafia member who would still be able to kill regardless of my recruitment or not. Today is the last day a mislynch is still acceptable. I remembered someone talking about a hider and though that Vandred had his role revealed but it doesn't seem so. That would explain why he may not have hidden and ended up as a second kill. With 2 kill parties and lynching me you'd start D7 with 6 Players unless mafia kill each other or target the same person. That leaves at least 2 mafia vs 4 townies for D7.

I'll vote for one of the two "prostitutes" it hurts to lose a whore but it would make the next lynch a 100%er in case we are wrong today. Thus making the chances higher that we win in the end. If you lynch me today and then tomorrow need to take the risk of which whore is mafia it's a 50/50 gamble on whether we kill the right one or lose the game for sure.
Which is insane since we have lynched a mafia every single day for 5 days.
 

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Now you are planning to kill me? wot.
Look DD, you haven't exactly been very forthcoming this game. I experience you as erratic and until recently, you said I am the last mafia. Now you say Tatsu is the last mafia. You're all over the place.

It's also convenient that you claim a bodyguard role and you say you are going to protect me. The last time I counted on someone using their role, I got burned. (Sam and his troublemaker) So it is hard for me to believe you.
 

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By the way, does anyone still think there are lovers in the game?
 

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Which is insane since we have lynched a mafia every single day for 5 days.
Plus mafia killed each other on N1 and it seems like mafia failed with kills on other nights as well. This shit is

 

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I think it's interesting how you've suddenly become collected and cooperative since a few pages, maybe because you are really feeling the heat.

Why should we all vote Desin and not you? I'd like to see a bigger reply from you defending yourself.

@desin24 same for you, who should we vote for and why should it not be you?

Let's see, Zirc is already posting.

@Tatsumaki ?
@SonOfDaws ?

I think Tsar already left for the day if I remember correctly, am on my phone so will check in a moment.

Who else do we need to hear from?
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Yes Tsar left for the remainder of the day phase.
I'm here, but it's kinda early so I'm going to go back to sleep after voting

I just wanted to check the votes again to see if there's anything I'm missing pattern-wise first
 

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The same goes for the defense of the idea of Tatsu learnimg my role? What if they figured out somehow she's the traitor and want to create an immortal? Why not learn zirc role already and then target someone suspiscious? What make you guys think mafia will freely let her learn my role and not kill her before it's time? Why are you tsar coordinating a 7 man move ignoring only daws and desin as if the red team is the only big one and purple isn't a threat?
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You guys became more active by thw last few days when the big fish left the arena. Are you lookin down on us newbies and trying to get an easy one?

"But we're the only ones alive we need to be active plus irl stuff" yeah, okay but this isn't the first weekend since the game started either.
 
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