Fantasy Suzaku vs Irene Belserion

[Kurumi Tokisaki]

She was enchanted by wendy so basically she was not weakened, and none of this matters since irene>suzaku, cool suzaku one shotted selene but that does not make him faster since he could barely dodge attacks from a little serious selene, actually he only dodged once meanwhile irene dodged an attack from a little serious acno without breaking a sweat

Acno was never serious against Irene. He didn't know she was a dragon. He is only serious when he fights dragons. Erza being enchanted by Wendy doesn't take that she was weakened before the fight against Irene. Most of FT fight main villains half dead. Natsu fought Acno with burned arm.

again he did not see acnologia since 400 years ago so at best we can assume that they all scale to tenrou island acno if not way below and quoting erza "acnologias power is nothing like it was on tenrou island" he got WAY stronger since done easily putting him way above all of the dragon gods, and irene blasting away a much much stronger acno and pushing him back (surprising him) + making him go a little serious and dodging a attack from him without breaking a sweat easily puts her at DG level

Irene is not DG. Don't know where this wank is coming from. Pushing Acno means nothing. Jellal did it as well as Christina. Acno never went serious on her just attack her with a spell. By your logic, Jellal is DG level because he forced Acno to become a dragon by using his grand chariot.

only beat her since she was surprised that he was not using kurnugis power is not even impressive lmao actually how is it impressive to one shot someone with a sword anyways?

Irene feat against Erza also unimpressive because she she is swordsman as well lol.

thats like saying me one shotting a surprised body builder by cutting his body with a knife puts me above a actual body builder who can rival the other in power. irene beats suzaku due to speed,scaling and hax.

Fight well as ignoring Erza feats as well because she is a swordsman as well. Irene is not above DG. She hasn't shown any speed that puts her above Suzaku.

 

[Seven777]

She was enchanted by wendy so basically she was not weakened, and none of this matters since irene>suzaku, cool suzaku one shotted selene but that does not make him faster since he could barely dodge attacks from a little serious selene, actually he only dodged once meanwhile irene dodged an attack from a little serious acno without breaking a sweat and tenrou island acno>>selene since ignia said that all dragon gods surpassed acnologia and again he did not see acnologia since 400 years ago so at best we can assume that they all scale to tenrou island acno if not way below and quoting erza "acnologias power is nothing like it was on tenrou island" he got WAY stronger since then easily putting him way above all of the dragon gods, and irene blasting away a much much stronger acno and pushing him back (surprising him) + making him go a little serious and dodging a attack from him without breaking a sweat easily puts her at DG level and ill argue her beating them 1 on 1 due to hax meanwhile a serious suzaku was getting fodderized by a little serious selene and only beat her since she was surprised that he was not using kurnugis power is not even impressive lmao actually how is it impressive to one shot someone with a sword anyways? thats like saying me one shotting a surprised body builder by cutting his body with a knife puts me above a actual body builder who can rival the other in power. irene beats suzaku due to speed,scaling and hax.

Eileen isn't even in the same realm of existence as Suzaku, he literally no diffs her. Even if Suzaku wasn't faster than Eileen(he obviously and objectively is), it doesn't matter. He just rekt Selene's ass. Eileen could be the fastest character in the series(she isn't, in fact you could make a good argument for Suzaku taking that title) and Suzaku would still low diff her.
Dodging an attack from a casual Acno<<<<landing an attack on a serious Selene. Eileen's feats against Acno are Jellal tier lol

Did you seriously just claim that Eileen is Dragon God level lmao? That might just be the dumbest thing I've ever heard on this forum. She barely beat Erza and Wendy, she's nowhere even close to Dragon God level. Suzaku beat a stronger Erza and Natsu, faster and with much less difficulty than Eileen beat Erza and Wendy. This isn't even a challenge for Suzaku, he stomps.

 

[Vex_Haid]

Acno was never serious against Irene. He didn't know she was a dragon. He is only serious when he fights dragons. Erza being enchanted by Wendy doesn't take that she was weakened before the fight against Irene. Most of FT fight main villains half dead. Natsu fought Acno with burned arm.
"acno was not serious against irene" mmmm when did i say serious? never did i just said a little serious based off this scan

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/863231589064376352/863912987172405258/unknown.png

Irene is not DG. Don't know where this wank is coming from. Pushing Acno means nothing. Jellal did it as well as Christina. Acno never went serious on her just attack her with a spell. By your logic, Jellal is DG level because he forced Acno to become a dragon by using his grand chariot.
"pushing acno means nothing" lol she pushed him with magic power and actually made him struggle since we saw the ground shatter meaning acnologia was fighting back and then she just blasted him a few hundred meters away and again acnologia was surprised

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/863231589064376352/863912644083056640/unknown.png

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/863231589064376352/863912857179521054/unknown.png

Irene feat against Erza also unimpressive because she she is swordsman as well lol.
Cool not really using her feats against erza but ok


Fight well as ignoring Erza feats as well because she is a swordsman as well. Irene is not above DG. She hasn't shown any speed that puts her above Suzaku.
"she hasn't shown any speed feats that put her above suzaku" please don't make me repeat myself. here is irene dodging a little serious acnologias attack without breaking a sweat

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/863231589064376352/863912987172405258/unknown.png

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/863231589064376352/863913122959458324/unknown.png

meanwhile suzaku struggled just to dodge one attack from a little serious selene who is much weaker then acnologia, please show evidence of suzaku being faster then irene now?
"irene is not above DG" cool did i say she is? nope i just said she is on the same level as them and can beat them because of her hax, all the DG are weaker then tenrou island acnologia by ignias statements, i can easily argue irene being stronger then the dragon gods without hax tbh

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Eileen isn't even in the same realm of existence as Suzaku, he literally no diffs her. Even if Suzaku wasn't faster than Eileen(he obviously and objectively is), it doesn't matter. He just rekt Selene's ass. Eileen could be the fastest character in the series(she isn't, in fact you could make a good argument for Suzaku taking that title) and Suzaku would still low diff her.
Dodging an attack from a casual Acno<<<<landing an attack on a serious Selene. Eileen's feats against Acno are Jellal tier lol

Did you seriously just claim that Eileen is Dragon God level lmao? That might just be the dumbest thing I've ever heard on this forum. She barely beat Erza and Wendy, she's nowhere even close to Dragon God level. Suzaku beat a stronger Erza and Natsu, faster and with much less difficulty than Eileen beat Erza and Wendy. This isn't even a challenge for Suzaku, he stomps.

selene was never serious against suzaku to begin with, when suzaku cut her she was nowhere to even being a little serious lmao and when she did become a little serious, suzaku only dodged 1 attack from her but barely and needed to give it all he had which is not as impressive as irene dodging a attack from a little serious acnologia (who is way stronger then selene) without breaking a sweat. "elieens feats agains acno are jellal tier" Ok suzakus feats against selene are below jellal tier since even tenrou island acno>>selene, which is obvious because ignia stated that the dragon gods surpass acnologia but then again he didn't see acnologia since 400 years ago so at best we can only scale the DG to tenrou acno tier

"did you seriously just claim that Eileen is dragon god level" yeah i did and i got proof for that since she surprised acnologia twice and dodged a attack from a little serious him and that acnologia>>>>>>>>selene, I'm not saying irene is stronger then selene (honestly i could argue that she easily is) but she can beat selene with hax, same goes for suzaku, she beats suzaku due to hax and speed, and she barely beat them cause she was holding back most the fight and they had a little bit of plot on there side "suzaku beat a stronger erza and natsu" how were they stronger? what if they were weaker since they weren't even training the past year or defeated any strong foe, by logic they were weaker. crazy how everyone thinks that suzaku beats irene even tho everyone was basically scared shitless when they first saw her but did not feel a thing from suzaku LOL plz stop with the suzaku wank

Edit: suzaku was amped with elentir magic to also are you even reading this?

 

[Kurumi Tokisaki]

Lol, so what if she pushed him with magic. Jellal also did the same and made Acnologia go dragon form. Jellal feats are greater than Irene's. Acno was never serious against. The only time he was serious was against God Serena and Natsu(when he started saying how dragons are kind). Irene's feats are good as Jellal nothing else.

 

[grey matter]

Lol, so what if she pushed him with magic. Jellal also did the same and made Acnologia go dragon form. Jellal feats are greater than Irene's. Acno was never serious against. The only time he was serious was against God Serena and Natsu(when he started saying how dragons are kind). Irene's feats are good as Jellal nothing else.

* less than


Also, he never got serious at Natsu to the point of wanting to kill him. Cause he needed Natsu alive. At best he wanted to stop playing and wanted to knock him down for good

 

[Seven777]

selene was never serious against suzaku to begin with, when suzaku cut her she was nowhere to even being a little serious lmao and when she did become a little serious, suzaku only dodged 1 attack from her but barely and needed to give it all he had which is not as impressive as irene dodging a attack from a little serious acnologia (who is way stronger then selene) without breaking a sweat. "elieens feats agains acno are jellal tier" Ok suzakus feats against selene are below jellal tier since even tenrou island acno>>selene, which is obvious because ignia stated that the dragon gods surpass acnologia but then again he didn't see acnologia since 400 years ago so at best we can only scale the DG to tenrou acno tier

"did you seriously just claim that Eileen is dragon god level" yeah i did and i got proof for that since she surprised acnologia twice and dodged a attack from a little serious him and that acnologia>>>>>>>>selene, I'm not saying irene is stronger then selene (honestly i could argue that she easily is) but she can beat selene with hax, same goes for suzaku, she beats suzaku due to hax and speed, and she barely beat them cause she was holding back most the fight and they had a little bit of plot on there side "suzaku beat a stronger erza and natsu" how were they stronger? what if they were weaker since they weren't even training the past year or defeated any strong foe, by logic they were weaker. crazy how everyone thinks that suzaku beats irene even tho everyone was basically scared shitless when they first saw her but did not feel a thing from suzaku LOL plz stop with the suzaku wank

She was literally crying about her son. She was %100 serious against Suzaku.
Dodging an attack from casual Acno is Jellal tier too lol, Jellal literally dodged Acno's roar haha.
Elsferia said the God Dragons were equal to Acno, not just Ignia and he's more than updated on the times. They're Acno tier, live with it.

That's not anything that even resembles proof. Jellal has both hit Acno and dodged his attacks. It's not impressive.
Eileen is weak. Do you know how I know? Because she could barely beat Erza and Wendy and Erza and Wendy could do literally nothing to %50 Merc, they were totally helpless. While on the other hand Suzaku just rekt %100 Selene's anus, and that was after no diffing Natsu and Erza lol. He is objectively superior to Eileen, it's not even a challenge.
Eileen<<<<%50 Merc<<Selene

 

[Vex_Haid]

Lol, so what if she pushed him with magic. Jellal also did the same and made Acnologia go dragon form. Jellal feats are greater than Irene's. Acno was never serious against. The only time he was serious was against God Serena and Natsu(when he started saying how dragons are kind). Irene's feats are good as Jellal nothing else.

Did jellal make acnologia go serious? nope, if you wanna claim that irenes feats are on jellal level then ima say that suzakus are below

 

[Kurumi Tokisaki]

Did jellal make acnologia go serious? nope, if you wanna claim that irenes feats are on jellal level then ima say that suzakus are below

Irene never did make Acno go serious as well. Suzaku not below Jellal below he made Selene bleed.

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Edit: suzaku was amped with elentir magic to also are you even reading this?

Are you sure you reading it as well. Selene is no exception. She also gets the boost from Elentir as well.

 

[Vex_Haid]

She was literally crying about her son. She was %100 serious against Suzaku.
Dodging an attack from casual Acno is Jellal tier too lol, Jellal literally dodged Acno's roar haha.
Elsferia said the God Dragons were equal to Acno, not just Ignia and he's more than updated on the times. They're Acno tier, live with it.

That's not anything that even resembles proof. Jellal has both hit Acno and dodged his attacks. It's not impressive.
Eileen is weak. Do you know how I know? Because she could barely beat Erza and Wendy and Erza and Wendy could do literally nothing to %50 Merc, they were totally helpless. While on the other hand Suzaku just rekt %100 Selene's anus, and that was after no diffing Natsu and Erza lol. He is objectively superior to Eileen, it's not even a challenge.
Eileen<<<<%50 Merc<<Selene

Hows it jellal tier when acno was going easy and toying with jellal while he was going a little serious on irene?
Yeah and so what if she was 100% serious?are you saying that suzaku is faster then selene? if so then believe what you wan't cause selene should be faster then suzaku
"Elsferia said the God Dragons were equal to Acno, not just Ignia and he's more than updated on the times. They're Acno tier, live with it." and ignia knows more about himself and the other dragon gods then elsferia and the fact that elsferia never even seen acno just debunks his statement, ignias statement is better but it only puts him not even at tenrou island acnos level
Again the only reason jellal dodged his attacks was because acno was toying around with him, learn with toying around with someone and going a little serious on someone means plz
"eileen is weak" oh yes, she totally didn't one shot DF nebal with just 1% of her power, she totally didn't torture mira and had her terrified of her presence, she totally was not stated by brandish to be able to rival august in power, she totally didn't surprise acnologia, she is totally not a member of the spriggan 12 (who are god tiers and don't need elentir amp)"she could barely beat erza and wendy" cool wendy was enchanting erza and irene was holding back + plot, yeah he rekt her cause he cut threw her, imagine needing a sword to knock someone out. yeah no diffed a weaker erza and natsu.irene obv slaps and its not even a challenge.

 

[Kurumi Tokisaki]

Hows it jellal tier when acno was going easy and toying with jellal while he was going a little serious on irene?

Where does it say Acno went little serious against Irene.

 

[Vex_Haid]

Irene never did make Acno go serious as well. Suzaku not below Jellal below he made Selene bleed.

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she did make acno go a little serious did you read my scan? and yeah he made selene bleed but with a sword, what makes you think that selene is not cuttable? not even a good feat

Are you sure you reading it as well. Selene is no exception. She also gets the boost from Elentir as well.

Does not change the fact that suzaku was also amped with elentir magic and was getting no diffed when selene wen't a little serious

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Where does it say Acno went little serious against Irene.

look at his face, he was laughing like a maniac obv he was a lil serious

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/863231589064376352/863912987172405258/unknown.png

 

[Kurumi Tokisaki]

Does not change the fact that suzaku was also amped with elentir magic and was getting no diffed when selene wen't a little serious

So whatever boost Selene gets should outstrip whatever boost Suzaku gets. She never no diffed. She was fine. No diffed is what Acnologia did to God Serena

 

[Seven777]

Hows it jellal tier when acno was going easy and toying with jellal while he was going a little serious on irene?
Yeah and so what if she was 100% serious?are you saying that suzaku is faster then selene? if so then believe what you wan't cause selene should be faster then suzaku
"Elsferia said the God Dragons were equal to Acno, not just Ignia and he's more than updated on the times. They're Acno tier, live with it." and ignia knows more about himself and the other dragon gods then elsferia and the fact that elsferia never even seen acno just debunks his statement, ignias statement is better but it only puts him not even at tenrou island acnos level
Again the only reason jellal dodged his attacks was because acno was toying around with him, learn with toying around with someone and going a little serious on someone means plz
"eileen is weak" oh yes, she totally didn't one shot DF nebal with just 1% of her power, she totally didn't torture mira and had her terrified of her presence, she totally was not stated by brandish to be able to rival august in power, she totally didn't surprise acnologia, she is totally not a member of the spriggan 12 (who are god tiers and don't need elentir amp)"she could barely beat erza and wendy" cool wendy was enchanting erza and irene was holding back + plot, yeah he rekt her cause he cut threw her, imagine needing a sword to knock someone out. yeah no diffed a weaker erza and natsu.irene obv slaps and its not even a challenge.

Simple, Acno was going easy on Eileen too. In fact Acno actually wanted Wendy dead against Jellal, while against Eileen he had no stake in the fight at all.
She should be, but she isn't.
Doesn't debunk it at all. It's a statement from the manga, your's is just a random fan claim.
All of those feats are mediocre, literally all of them.
So what if Erza was enchanted by Wendy lol? Erza and the whole of team Natsu was enchanted by Wendy against Merc too, but they could do literally nothing against him. Nothing at all. Erza with Wendy's power sliced through Eileen like butter and yet against Merc? He didn't even feel her attacks. While on the other hand Suzaku fucked Selene's shit up. Eileen has no chance against him

 

[Kurumi Tokisaki]

look at his face, he was laughing like a maniac obv he was a lil serious

Laughing = he is serious? Acnologia was laughing as a maniac when he fought Jellal as well. He ate his attack while laughing like a maniac. People flex their power when they are serious. Acno did no such thing.

 

[Vex_Haid]

Laughing = he is serious? Acnologia was laughing as a maniac when he fought Jellal as well. He ate his attack while laughing like a maniac. People flex their power when they are serious. Acno did no such thing.

yeah he was laughing when he was eating his power, not when he was fighting jellal (just dodging his attacks) and his expression on his face to just proves he was going a little serious

 

[Kurumi Tokisaki]

yeah he was laughing when he was eating his power, not when he was fighting jellal (just dodging his attacks) and his expression on his face to just proves he was going a little serious

Your point was laughing means he is serious. You can't spin it to suit Jellal differently and Irene seperately. Acno was not laughing against God Serena but that was the only time he was most serious. Laughing doesn't mean he is serious. He was laughing in his fight against 7 DS as well.

 

[Axiomus]

Lmao how is dodging an underground attack from acno not fast? faster then anything suzaku did who could not even dodge an attack from a little serious selene and it didn't even look like she was going a little serious, irene got tagged cause she was holding back some of them fight and the only reason he blitzed erza was because she was tired from her fight and she did react to him but she was just distracted from her blade being destroyed oh ye and ill argue that they were rusty since it was a year since they beat zeref and acno and we have no proof that they got stronger offscreen because all they really were doing was sitting in the guild so they were obv rusty.


Suzaku dealt heavily damage to selene? u mean those youtube videos? how can you tell that they are real if the chapter has not been released yet since it was supposed to be released on the 14th but if it is real then dont tell me anything else that happened in the vid cause i dont wanna be spoiled but i doubt that's real

Because Acnologia literally waves his hand before the ground beneath Irene explodes. People like Jellal, and by extension Erza, could have reacted to that.

You can't make the argument that Irene was holding back if she's getting tagged in her dragon form. Pointing out that Erza was tired from fighting Youko doesn't help your case. Suzaku wouldn't get tired from fighting Youko. He's just oneshot her. Suzaku stomped Natsu and Erza as a warm-up before fighting Selene. Natsu and Erza aren't rusty. They literally just got done fighting 2 god dragons.

I mean, you can read the raws too, but

Spoiler

The translations in the video are accurate.

 

[Vex_Haid]

Simple, Acno was going easy on Eileen too. In fact Acno actually wanted Wendy dead against Jellal, while against Eileen he had no stake in the fight at all.
She should be, but she isn't.
Doesn't debunk it at all. It's a statement from the manga, your's is just a random fan claim.
All of those feats are mediocre, literally all of them.
So what if Erza was enchanted by Wendy lol? Erza and the whole of team Natsu was enchanted by Wendy against Merc too, but they could do literally nothing against him. Nothing at all. Erza with Wendy's power sliced through Eileen like butter and yet against Merc? He didn't even feel her attacks. While on the other hand Suzaku fucked Selene's shit up. Eileen has no chance against him

how was acno going easy on Irene when his expression shows that he was going a little serious? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/863231589064376352/863912987172405258/unknown.png
Yeah he wanted wendy dead but was he really attacking jellal or just dodging his attacks and toying with him?
Lol all dragon gods aren't even tenrou island acno level and thats facts. unless you can prove how cause clearly by ignias statement they only surpassed acno from 400 years ago and you can't debunk jack just proves how much of a fanboy you are
"he didn't even feel her attacks" Ok what does that mean? that is like saying that a fodder eclipse dragon>irene cause dragon slaying magic did jack to them yet it one shot irene, erzas DS enhanced swords doing nothing to merc just proves that merc is more resistant to DS magic.
while on the other hand selene didn't even try to dodge suzakus attack if she did then she would have not been blitzed, your telling me that she tried to dodge his attack but failed? imagine saying that suzaku is faster then selene and suzaku putting her on the ground means nothing since he had a sword and selene did not show resistance to sharp objects meanwhile Irene surprised and shocked acnologia twice and blasted him back and that acnologia was WAY stronger then tenrou island acno who was already stronger then the DGs

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Your point was laughing means he is serious. You can't spin it to suit Jellal differently and Irene seperately. Acno was not laughing against God Serena but that was the only time he was most serious. Laughing doesn't mean he is serious. He was laughing in his fight against 7 DS as well.

Yeah he was laughing at the 7 Dragon slayers cause of how weak they were while against irene he was laughing and looked like he was having fun with her and acno even admitted that she was strong for someone that was trained by the black wizard

 

[Kurumi Tokisaki]

Yeah he was laughing at the 7 Dragon slayers cause of how weak they were while against irene he was laughing and looked like he was having fun with her and acno even admitted that she was strong for someone that was trained by the black wizard

DS fought an amp Acno above the one that fought Irene. Natsu tank his attack when he was mad and serious. Acno also made Natsu the king. They were never weak, to begin with.

 

[Vex_Haid]

Because Acnologia literally waves his hand before the ground beneath Irene explodes. People like Jellal, and by extension Erza, could have reacted to that.

You can't make the argument that Irene was holding back if she's getting tagged in her dragon form. Pointing out that Erza was tired from fighting Youko doesn't help your case. Suzaku wouldn't get tired from fighting Youko. He's just oneshot her. Suzaku stomped Natsu and Erza as a warm-up before fighting Selene. Natsu and Erza aren't rusty. They literally just got done fighting 2 god dragons.

I mean, you can read the raws too, but

Spoiler

The translations in the video are accurate.

No proof erza or jellal could have dodged that, i can make the same argument that anyone could have dodged those attacks from selene that suzaku couldn't

yeah she was holdingback and she got tagged because she wasn't even moving. what makes you think that suzaku could one shot that youko? and yeah they were rusty since they literally didn't do anything for a year and fighting the dragon gods did not make them stronger, natsu only won cause he got amps ALSO suzakus best feat is negging erza which ajeel was doing for some time the only difference is that
1. erza was not rusty
2. erza was actually trying
3. suzaku blitzing erza is pointless.

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DS fought an amp Acno above the one that fought Irene. Natsu tank his attack when he was mad and serious. Acno also made Natsu the king. They were never weak, to begin with.

cool natsu tanking his attack just proves that natsu is durable Af and lets not forget
1. natsu had an Amp to
2. acnologia was being sealed
3. acnologia did not even try to block that attack