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Madame fallaFar's Daily Horoscope corner!
๐Ÿ”ฎ With the very last bits of their energy they can muster, the Teller takes to the stars one final time ๐Ÿ”ฎ

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โ™ˆ Aries โ™ˆ
"Sure, your sign might be considered a little unfiltered, bold and daring even; prone to being bored, one could say. But this also allows you to reach new heights other signs rarely ascend to. This week the Virgo moon will be in descent and Jupiter will be in retrograde, meaning it's high time for you to set out on a new venture. Yet, with the waning sun and rising tides also comes the warning not to overreach. Fate is a zero-sum game, and not one you can always win."

โ™‰Taurus โ™‰
"Despite your penchant for resting, over long enough periods of time, this might cause rusting. Your all-or-nothing demeanour makes it hard for you to change or to pivot at the exact moment you need. This week you will be once again presented with an opportunity and the stars have aligned for you to reach out. Though it might go against your nature, it might be your destiny."

โ™ŠGemini โ™Š
"You're charismatic and good with words, both written and in conversation. But your charm has a washing-machine type of effect; others believe you, no matter what you say, and consequently, you start believing it too. In the short term, that works wonders for you. In the long-term, you might find yourself cornered by a lack of good advice, and people around you to balance out your persona. This week, the stars will provide you with an opportunity in disguise to make a change in this. That person who argues against you might actually be looking out for you. For a change, it might be best to let someone else do the talking, and despite all odds, that might enrich your life greatly"

โ™‹ Cancer โ™‹
"You're a sensitive person who seeks both provide and give comfort. You forgive but don't forget, you set boundaries that are vigilantly guarded and maintained but are willing to take on the problems of others outside of that. You might find that this week requires you to shift the window a little, when a new but unknown problem shows up on the horizon. Though people tend to lose perspective when they face the unknown, the stars can do one better than disorient you, and instead, help you make acquaintance with a whole new worldview. Be open-minded this week, and see where it takes you."

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โ™Œ Leo โ™Œ
"Despite being a little vain, you exude warmth and creativity. Your larger-than-life persona makes you stand out and you like this accompanying a certain degree of luxury. And much like the King of Beasts, you hold back little energy when dealing with problems, both big and small. This week you will be asked to practice restraint and proportionality. Even the Lion needs rest."

โ™ Virgo โ™
"The Virgo sign is a compassionate one. You feel the need to be useful to others, no matter what. It helps that usually you are in fact the kind of person who can produce useful solutions. You have a million ideas per second that are produced by a rich tapestry of experience. Your quick thinking makes it so you can find quick fixes to whatever situation. This however does not mean there always is a solution, and you need to make peace with that. This week, try figuring out yourself, too."

โ™Ž Libra โ™Ž
"You hate being alone, but you also hate conflict. You see every side which makes it so you have trouble making decisions. But this week is not the time to get lost in fantasy and lose yourself to eventualities that might never occur. It is time to stand your ground and figure out how to break your current dead-lock. This week, you will have to decide. When you decide, go deeper than trying to understand both sides and instead try to figure out why you feel the need to mediate."

โ™ Scorpio โ™
"No sign takes betrayal worse than you do. And this week, you will be indeed faced with betrayal. Not necessarily someone you're close to, but someone you look up to - deem better than yourself - will disappoint you. While revenge is a dish best served callously, this week, it will be important for you to choose your battles, and bide your time. You don't know how much poison you will be needing going forward, and who to use it on, if you take out everything in sight."

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โ™ Sagittarius โ™
"You have no indoor voice and form opinions almost exclusively based on how you feel in the moment. Simultaneously, you are driven by self-improvement to the point of it being a fault. Truth is a weapon you use to dish out blunt trauma to all around you, even those who didn't deserve it, much less those who can defend themselves from it. This week you will be faced with a conundrum that requires a bit more emotional intelligence than you usually care to apply. Not for lack of possession of it, however. So tap into this richer side of yourself, and learn to furnish your weapon with this pageantry."

โ™‘ Capricorn โ™‘
"You're responsible and motivated by duty. Oriented around success, you might be a little hard to approach. Others think it, but you know it. While it may be comfortable keeping up these defences, the stars have a chance meeting for you planned this week that requires you to let down the draw bridge. It's good being an adult, but it's better not to lose sight of your childlike enthusiasms. Staying in touch with your past is not a bad thing if you understand your place in it."

โ™’ Aquarius โ™’
"You are in possession of the best sign. But that doesn't mean you are being your best self. You believe in freedom, having it and living it, but faultily, you also believe the opposite of freedom is restraint. This is not true; a little self-discipline would help you improve in all aspects of your life, and allow you to exploit said freedom better. Being free means the ability to choose and you would do well seeking more input from others before you choose how you want to be free."

โ™“ Pisces โ™“
"They say there's plenty of fish in the sea. And that's true. It's unfortunate then you're a sea-urchin. You also get into a fight with a duck you somehow manage to lose. Best to stay inside"
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๐Ÿ”ฎ Night Actions ๐Ÿ”ฎ




Aha here are the spicy night actions. Past Nacho's death, the DC didn't have much to vote on... So it was dissolved. Also, empty spaces may indicate that player didn't PM for whatever reason

I was going to do an elaborate player-by-player review like last time, but this time noona did it, and hers were pretty good so I'll stick to those :lmao

Compared to the previous burning building mechanic, I think noona and I pretty easily settled on the form of this idea, stamping out technicalities along the way. I thought the DC mechanic was pretty interesting, though perhaps not all effects were equally balanced (nor did all effects provide the DC with the same amount of powers). There is probably some more interesting concepts in this post-death corner to explore (coming to a panda game close to you). Coming up with all the effects was a little tricky but overall they produced a couple of interesting gamer moments. Hmm, I didn't expect a mafia to die to the N1 effect, I didn't think Jesus and day skip would be picked so quickly and I didn't expect horoscoping to be such hard work ๐Ÿ˜ค The tellers have it tough.

We wanted the game to have a mystical kind of atmosphere? The colours, avi's and text hopefully all contributed to that. Though usually I'm not necessarily fond of RNG, given the theme it seemed acceptable. We had to RNG onto a vote so that a majority of townies couldn't disregard a minority mafo. There was a rubberband kind of mechanic to a three-headed council, as the team that was getting bodied could attempt to control the course of the constellations. Introducing lovers into the game at a later point proved an interesting stimulant, in that even trusted players could get burnt. Inactive or unwilling players could refrain from engaging with the mechanic heavily. Living players didn't necessarily have to learn all the effects while they were playing; they could focus on the game and look up a list of more invested players after kicking the bucket.

I liked random-kuns debut. He helped a lot with Rin-chan-campaigning and has a penchant for omo'ing. It's a smart bot, for sure. It did its best. Not a lot to say about it, other than that I'm disappointed in the players who had random-kun RNG onto someone to vote for LOL, very painful. Its final deciding coin toss turned out to be pretty relevant. Apparently, random-kun has a penchant for multiples of 2 but will roll onto uneven numbers if you praise or intimidate it. Perhaps it keeps track of how everyone is treating it :heh. I think in these few cute paragraphs I've surmised most of my immediately relevant thoughts. Hopefully, less panda game shenanigans next time ๐Ÿ˜ค





๐ŸŒ  Once again, congratulations to the winners, and thank you for playing! ๐ŸŒ 
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3. D1 (now) has no sign, N1's sign is automatically chosen (Aries), so the lynched party chooses the D2 effect. Everyone who joins them after N1 votes for the N2 effect on D2, etc.
Seems that the people lynched are the one that choose the sign not the DC.

The lynched party: because multiple people can be lynched at once I'm assuming?
But what happens if 2 people are lynched, how would they vote?

Why? Go for it.

Incriminate is a funny word. It means you don't think I'm guilty but you are trying to make me look like it?
English is not my first language, but feel free to use that against me, it fair game.
Meanwhile nice dodging of the question.
 

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So my list was wrong, D1 isn't Aries it's N1. Ugh..
I thought your list was "vote this phase so it works next". Later I do my own.
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Are you an avenger again?
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Seems that the people lynched are the one that choose the sign not the DC.

The lynched party: because multiple people can be lynched at once I'm assuming?
But what happens if 2 people are lynched, how would they vote?



English is not my first language, but feel free to use that against me, it fair game.
Meanwhile nice dodging of the question.
What question
 

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Seems that the people lynched are the one that choose the sign not the DC.
The most recent three deaths inhabit the DC!

But what happens if 2 people are lynched, how would they vote?
(As stated in the OP) It's not a majority vote! Everyone votes and the hosts randomize onto one of the options!
 

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Browsing on mobile is kind of shit but hey @Copy Panda will we be informed about the star reignin over a phase or nah?
 

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So to reread and analyze the signs.

โ™‰ Taurus - better later as an instant-kill than earlier as a Potato, as historically Potato kills townies.
โ™Š Gemini - best midgame no? Lategame we seldom have the voting power and clarity to allow for a mistake. Early it may just be 2 townies. So somewhere between early-midgame best to use. Or use it on a night to waste it, but I don't see the benefit of that.
โ™‹ Cancer - best as a Doctor usage at night, as preventing a lynch accidentally isn't of much use. Unless there are Assassins. Better to use mid-late game.
โ™Œ Leo - maybe mid-late game. Not too many practical uses because it goes away after the phase(day or night). Best used as a "try to predict who mafia will kill at night". More useful for mafia so we should be careful with this one.
โ™ Virgo - This is a very interesting once, better used earlier than later imo. Early-mid game. Restrict mafia's choices at night and see what they do is a better usage than to restrict 4 randoms for day lynch purposes.
โ™Ž Libra - ...how do you retroactively introduce a pair of Lovers? Imo best midgame to not let any love develop too soon and have a potentially strong Lover combo, anything later will just shoot ourselves in the foot depending on current gamestate.
โ™ Scorpio - Nice midgame to lategame power, especially if something crucial like a Det dies their one vote could speak as much as a whole post. Lategame I'd worry about this giving mafia another vote or two to outvote.
โ™ Sagittarius - Between midgame and lategame. Too early useless, too late also useless. Keep in mind that a mafia could be most targetted player and lie with the results messing us up.
โ™‘ Capricorn - Great time to use for when we lose 2-3 roles that are powerful. Likely early-midgame.
โ™’ Aquarius - So, just skip N1 no? Is there a better use for this? Given they don't have Assassin, if they do it's a waste.
โ™“ Pisces - ...revival? For like 3 players? Am I reading that right? Can just exchange 3 confirmed dead townies for 3 unconfirmed players for a possibly big advantage. Imo use this ASAP.

So I'd personally do..
N1 Aquarius
D2 Pisces
N2 Virgo
D3 Capricorn
N3 Libra
D4 Gemini
N4 Leo
D5 Sagittarius
N5 Cancer
D6 Scorpio
N6 Taurus


Ofc adapt it depending on who dies when, but this sounds like a very decent spread to me. Anyone who dies should remember this post if they're unsure what to do.
Fixed:

N1 Aries
D2 Pisces
N2 Virgo
D3 Capricorn
N3 Aquarius
D4 Gemini
N4 Libra
D5 Sagittarius
N5 Leo
D6 Scorpio
N6 Cancer
D7 Taurus


Though unsure whether Taurus should go that far back. Maybe switch it for some other minor day power I took before. Rest then gets adjusted.
 

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Sorry, but that's so bad. Just last game we had the same ideological discussion on whether Banshee can be categorized as "not that great" with two very defendable positions for either.

Give more. Active/passive?
For the record your position wasn't defendable and that was a big mistake that I failed to properly capitalize on. But nvm.
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you wanna surpass me in "best role hint given"?

mine was also in the recent BnHA game

XD
Rrrr... Fine you can have that award, I feel like saying more goes too far.
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I thought your list was "vote this phase so it works next". Later I do my own.
Nah I thought somewhat wrong about how it works. I considered last 3 dead people always do effects instantly. D1 Aries lynched person kills a player, then on N2 chooses something that goes into effect immediately for that night.

The true way it works is a lot better for managing purposes than what I thought. Still, most of my list should be rather fine where they're placed. You can do one too so I can compare where you stand.
 

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????????????

What do you mean lmao, surely you can read posts my guy and see I said "fair few".



All good, it's my Australian lingo :XD

For reference, I'll give you a small Sir's Australian Lesson on the term:
well i'd say we have a fuck tone not a fair few :))) so you're still wrong. all who claimed except 1, claimed active.
 

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Why tf would we trust our fate to Seiko?
 

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Well i can say that my reaction when i first saw my role was "meh"
i personally laughed :)))

and that's another hint y'all, write it down.
 

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So no list for me @Evil3ye ?
Nope. If I live through the night 1, I might share the "have had" lists. Then on the other hand...

:heh

:p

j/k. don't have the most recent games in my table yet, so can give an incomplete picture as of now anyway.
 

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Probably 5, could be 6 or 7 but I removed them from my memory xD

Does the Council of Dead vote, or only the Day's lynch?
Dead players (lynches, night kills, everything) go to the Dead Council (where the voting over signs happen)

So if two pick Aquarius and one picks Taurus then it's still a 50-50 cointoss?
If there are 3 votes, each pick has a 1 in 3 chance of happening. This applies to signs, as well as eventual voting over sign effects
 
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