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Madame fallaFar's Daily Horoscope corner!
๐Ÿ”ฎ With the very last bits of their energy they can muster, the Teller takes to the stars one final time ๐Ÿ”ฎ

๐ŸŒ 

โ™ˆ Aries โ™ˆ
"Sure, your sign might be considered a little unfiltered, bold and daring even; prone to being bored, one could say. But this also allows you to reach new heights other signs rarely ascend to. This week the Virgo moon will be in descent and Jupiter will be in retrograde, meaning it's high time for you to set out on a new venture. Yet, with the waning sun and rising tides also comes the warning not to overreach. Fate is a zero-sum game, and not one you can always win."

โ™‰Taurus โ™‰
"Despite your penchant for resting, over long enough periods of time, this might cause rusting. Your all-or-nothing demeanour makes it hard for you to change or to pivot at the exact moment you need. This week you will be once again presented with an opportunity and the stars have aligned for you to reach out. Though it might go against your nature, it might be your destiny."

โ™ŠGemini โ™Š
"You're charismatic and good with words, both written and in conversation. But your charm has a washing-machine type of effect; others believe you, no matter what you say, and consequently, you start believing it too. In the short term, that works wonders for you. In the long-term, you might find yourself cornered by a lack of good advice, and people around you to balance out your persona. This week, the stars will provide you with an opportunity in disguise to make a change in this. That person who argues against you might actually be looking out for you. For a change, it might be best to let someone else do the talking, and despite all odds, that might enrich your life greatly"

โ™‹ Cancer โ™‹
"You're a sensitive person who seeks both provide and give comfort. You forgive but don't forget, you set boundaries that are vigilantly guarded and maintained but are willing to take on the problems of others outside of that. You might find that this week requires you to shift the window a little, when a new but unknown problem shows up on the horizon. Though people tend to lose perspective when they face the unknown, the stars can do one better than disorient you, and instead, help you make acquaintance with a whole new worldview. Be open-minded this week, and see where it takes you."

๐ŸŒ 

โ™Œ Leo โ™Œ
"Despite being a little vain, you exude warmth and creativity. Your larger-than-life persona makes you stand out and you like this accompanying a certain degree of luxury. And much like the King of Beasts, you hold back little energy when dealing with problems, both big and small. This week you will be asked to practice restraint and proportionality. Even the Lion needs rest."

โ™ Virgo โ™
"The Virgo sign is a compassionate one. You feel the need to be useful to others, no matter what. It helps that usually you are in fact the kind of person who can produce useful solutions. You have a million ideas per second that are produced by a rich tapestry of experience. Your quick thinking makes it so you can find quick fixes to whatever situation. This however does not mean there always is a solution, and you need to make peace with that. This week, try figuring out yourself, too."

โ™Ž Libra โ™Ž
"You hate being alone, but you also hate conflict. You see every side which makes it so you have trouble making decisions. But this week is not the time to get lost in fantasy and lose yourself to eventualities that might never occur. It is time to stand your ground and figure out how to break your current dead-lock. This week, you will have to decide. When you decide, go deeper than trying to understand both sides and instead try to figure out why you feel the need to mediate."

โ™ Scorpio โ™
"No sign takes betrayal worse than you do. And this week, you will be indeed faced with betrayal. Not necessarily someone you're close to, but someone you look up to - deem better than yourself - will disappoint you. While revenge is a dish best served callously, this week, it will be important for you to choose your battles, and bide your time. You don't know how much poison you will be needing going forward, and who to use it on, if you take out everything in sight."

๐ŸŒ 

โ™ Sagittarius โ™
"You have no indoor voice and form opinions almost exclusively based on how you feel in the moment. Simultaneously, you are driven by self-improvement to the point of it being a fault. Truth is a weapon you use to dish out blunt trauma to all around you, even those who didn't deserve it, much less those who can defend themselves from it. This week you will be faced with a conundrum that requires a bit more emotional intelligence than you usually care to apply. Not for lack of possession of it, however. So tap into this richer side of yourself, and learn to furnish your weapon with this pageantry."

โ™‘ Capricorn โ™‘
"You're responsible and motivated by duty. Oriented around success, you might be a little hard to approach. Others think it, but you know it. While it may be comfortable keeping up these defences, the stars have a chance meeting for you planned this week that requires you to let down the draw bridge. It's good being an adult, but it's better not to lose sight of your childlike enthusiasms. Staying in touch with your past is not a bad thing if you understand your place in it."

โ™’ Aquarius โ™’
"You are in possession of the best sign. But that doesn't mean you are being your best self. You believe in freedom, having it and living it, but faultily, you also believe the opposite of freedom is restraint. This is not true; a little self-discipline would help you improve in all aspects of your life, and allow you to exploit said freedom better. Being free means the ability to choose and you would do well seeking more input from others before you choose how you want to be free."

โ™“ Pisces โ™“
"They say there's plenty of fish in the sea. And that's true. It's unfortunate then you're a sea-urchin. You also get into a fight with a duck you somehow manage to lose. Best to stay inside"
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๐Ÿ”ฎ Night Actions ๐Ÿ”ฎ




Aha here are the spicy night actions. Past Nacho's death, the DC didn't have much to vote on... So it was dissolved. Also, empty spaces may indicate that player didn't PM for whatever reason

I was going to do an elaborate player-by-player review like last time, but this time noona did it, and hers were pretty good so I'll stick to those :lmao

Compared to the previous burning building mechanic, I think noona and I pretty easily settled on the form of this idea, stamping out technicalities along the way. I thought the DC mechanic was pretty interesting, though perhaps not all effects were equally balanced (nor did all effects provide the DC with the same amount of powers). There is probably some more interesting concepts in this post-death corner to explore (coming to a panda game close to you). Coming up with all the effects was a little tricky but overall they produced a couple of interesting gamer moments. Hmm, I didn't expect a mafia to die to the N1 effect, I didn't think Jesus and day skip would be picked so quickly and I didn't expect horoscoping to be such hard work ๐Ÿ˜ค The tellers have it tough.

We wanted the game to have a mystical kind of atmosphere? The colours, avi's and text hopefully all contributed to that. Though usually I'm not necessarily fond of RNG, given the theme it seemed acceptable. We had to RNG onto a vote so that a majority of townies couldn't disregard a minority mafo. There was a rubberband kind of mechanic to a three-headed council, as the team that was getting bodied could attempt to control the course of the constellations. Introducing lovers into the game at a later point proved an interesting stimulant, in that even trusted players could get burnt. Inactive or unwilling players could refrain from engaging with the mechanic heavily. Living players didn't necessarily have to learn all the effects while they were playing; they could focus on the game and look up a list of more invested players after kicking the bucket.

I liked random-kuns debut. He helped a lot with Rin-chan-campaigning and has a penchant for omo'ing. It's a smart bot, for sure. It did its best. Not a lot to say about it, other than that I'm disappointed in the players who had random-kun RNG onto someone to vote for LOL, very painful. Its final deciding coin toss turned out to be pretty relevant. Apparently, random-kun has a penchant for multiples of 2 but will roll onto uneven numbers if you praise or intimidate it. Perhaps it keeps track of how everyone is treating it :heh. I think in these few cute paragraphs I've surmised most of my immediately relevant thoughts. Hopefully, less panda game shenanigans next time ๐Ÿ˜ค





๐ŸŒ  Once again, congratulations to the winners, and thank you for playing! ๐ŸŒ 
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I mean, usually people subconsciously or openly react to someone claiming their own role. Like any words you told her or so that show her reveal made you go !!!
no, I just started asking her questions about it. Because as I was discussing with James earlier, most of the games I played had 2 spies in them or so the impression that stuck to me. James pointed out i'm wrong but that was done now. So my impression on D2 was that it's common so I just wanted to know who's sane and who's insane.
 

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Erin didn't specify about the main role, but you're right that naรฏve townie isn't recruitable unless their main role allows it.
I haven't yet. I might tell it at the end of the day phase, when I'm sure I'm the most voted, and then I will give you all the infos. I hate writing with my phone...
 

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Didn't Avi say his/her role was really important so if s/he were to die she would use that sign to switch her role with one of us? That seemed like a hint to me that Avi was one of the big important three - det, doc or spy. Bet Mafia thought the same but for some reason rather wanted EH dead than Avi.
Or was it someone else who gave that kinda hint and I confuse two players with each other?
No she gave that hint but odd to me that you made entire trains of thoughts about other players like Hardy with just that assumption of her being blocked as the foundation. Shaky stuff James. Sus.
 

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No clue, just throw your net wide youโ€˜ll find them goodies. That or confirming a townie whose role is revealed.
--- Double Post Merged, , Original Post Date: ---



No Spy should always be given a reply I think even when blocked, so that bit is unclear. But honestly did they have a reason to block you N1? N2 sure but N1?
N1 avietar got a reply, "no result" (not blocked)
N2 avietar got no reply. I remember from my first spy game that if you're blocked you don't get any replies. (blocked)
 

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I haven't yet. I might tell it at the end of the day phase, when I'm sure I'm the most voted, and then I will give you all the infos. I hate writing with my phone...
How strong would you say your role is?
 

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N1 avietar got a reply, "no result" (not blocked)
N2 avietar got no reply. I remember from my first spy game that if you're blocked you don't get any replies. (blocked)
Oh then hosts are just doing it different from the standards set in the PM example thread. Sigh...
Obligatory pandagaem
--- Double Post Merged, , Original Post Date: ---

(if Spy was blocked or his target did nothing that Night)

Your investigation ended with no results.
@Farfalla @Copy Panda can you confirm or deny whether youโ€˜ve ever seen before this line of text?
--- Double Post Merged, ---

I haven't yet. I might tell it at the end of the day phase, when I'm sure I'm the most voted, and then I will give you all the infos. I hate writing with my phone...
Why though? You saw where Shadโ€˜s โ€žI will reveal last 2 minutesโ€œ got him, what purpose does secrecy serve here for any of you.
--- Double Post Merged, ---

Meh guess we need to rewrite and change some stuff.
 

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It's funny, you've asked us sth very similar in a previous game iirc and the answer remains the same, 'yes, we know how spy works,
 

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It's funny, you've asked us sth very similar in a previous game iirc and the answer remains the same, 'yes, we know how spy works,
Then @avietar has things to explain. Did you get PMed by hosts every night or only on N1?
 

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And that's coming from the Council Member who was mad at us for not knowing specifics about roles :teehee .
The dayrole usage in last hour are no specifics but broad rules of playing. But point taken.
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I'm here now for if you guys wanna ask questions or otherwise bully me

Also remember to vote Rin-chan or at least against Sam
How much did desin pay to rig the signs or is that just simple astrology at work?
 

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Okay, next ten games @Scary Noona :

VI. Brand-X|the 'Seiko' Hydra | Brandish & Crescent Jinx
Spirit Medium | WINNER





Fallen Hydra

I

I. Demon3ye | the 'Too kawaii to die, too sugoi to live' Hydra | Demonspeed & Evil3ye
Bulletproof Townie | Lynched Day 1

II

I. BelsAph | the 'Protagonist' Hydra | Seraph & Belserion
Mafia Pirate | Shot by the Prosecutor Day 2

VIII. HardYes! | the 'Super List' Hydra | Hardy & ErinYes
Mafia Robber | NVD | Lynched Day 2

IV. PomSun | the 'SpeedWeaPom' Hydra | GrySun & Lady PomPom
Doctor | Super Mason | Killed Night 2

XI. Son of Sin | the 'Upstanding' Hydra | Desin24 & Son of Daws
Bodyguard | Traitor | Killed Night 2

III

XVI. Blackuchi | the 'Walking Dead' Hydra | Black Tiger & Takuan
Townie | Lynched Day 3

XV. Lawlsz | the 'Kappa' Hydra | goodboy_lawlett & Zasz
Doctor | Killed Night 3

III. EnoNacho | the 'Hyped' Hydra | BD_Beno & gajeel
Mason Recruiter | Killed Night 3

IV

X. SirMalade | the 'Sinterklaas' Hydra | SirSamuel & MarmaladeSky
Santa Claus | Zwarte Piet afgeschaft on Day 4

V

XVI. Blackuchi | the 'Walking Dead' Hydra | Black Tiger & Takuan
Jesus | Respawned Day 5

VII. DigiRye | the 'Dr DRye'Hydra | Digitaldude & James Rye
Vengeful Townie | Lynched Day 5

XIII. Gruviiidor | the 'Hangman' Hydra | Juviii & Gryffindor
Mafia Politician | Killed by Vengeful Townie Day 5

XIV. Haven the Hamfist Hydra | the 'Hamfist' Hydra | Holt & Raven
Doctor | Super Mason | Killed Night 5

VI

XII. ScaRi | the 'Promotion' Hydra | Scav & Riki
Mafia Member | Lynched Day 6

IX. LambRed | the Boss Hydra | Lambu & Vandred
Prosecutor | Killed Night 6

VII - Game End

XVI. Blackuchi | the 'Walking Dead' Hydra | Black Tiger & Takuan
Jesus | LOSER

V. ShinKo | the 'Asashin' Hydra | Shinobi & Asako
Mason | LOSER

No spies actually.

1. Grysun -Ainz (Mafia Boss)
2. Demonspeed - Aqua (Mafia Escort )
3. Desin24 - Tanya (Mortician)
4. Crescent Jinx - Wilibald (Insane Detective)
5. Panda - Matheus (Sane Spy)
6. Erinyes - Ram (Witch)
7. Holt - Megumin (Bulletproof Townie)
8. Blacktiger - Subaru (Prosecutor)
9. Seraph - Emilia (Restless Spirit)
10. Lady Pompom - Shalltear (Mafia janitor)
11. DigitalDude - Kazuma (Shapeshifter)
12. SonOfDaws - Mare (Sane Doctor)
13. MarmaladeSky - Rem (Strongman)
14. Anih - Albedo (Insane Apprentice)
15. Shinobi - Viktoriya (Prostitute)
16. Gajeel - Aura (Insane Detective)
17. Juviii - Beatrice (Insane Doctor)
18. Belserion - Darkness (Vengeful Townie)

My game, man, that was fun to write. Also only one spy, just saying.

Players' list (Duelists):
MarmaladeSky as Alexis Rhodes (Investigator) killed on Night 1
Demonspeed as Bakura (Detective) killed on Night 2
Belserion as Ishizu Ishtar (Bulletproof)
BD_Beno as Jack Atlas (Spy) killed on Day 5
Takuan as Jaden Yuki (Doctor) killed on Night 5
GrySun as Jesse Andersen (Mafia Strongman) lynched on Day 5
Gajeel as Joey Wheeler (Mafia Boss) lynched on Day 7
Evil3ye as Seto Kaiba (Jesus) lynched on Day 2, back on Day 4
BlackTiger as Bandit Keith (Detective) killed on Night 7.
Asako as Mai Valentine (Serial Killer) Lunched on Day 4
Holt as Marik Ishtar (Prosecutor) killed on Day 4
Juviii as Aki Izayoi (Prostitute) killed on night 4
digitaldude as Yusei Fudou (Mafia Detective) lynched on Day 6
Seraph as Yugi Mutou (Innocent Child) killed on Night 3
Copy Panda as Zane Truesdale (Hider) lynched on Day 1
James Rye as Odion (Spirit Medium) lynched on Day 3
desin24 as Saiou Takuma (Mafia Janitor)
MUIMadara as Kalin Kessler (Doctor) lynched on Day 7

1. Copy Panda - Amitie (Prosecutor) killed on Night 6
2. Lady pompom - Draco Centauros (Mentor)
3. desin24 - Feli (Prostitute) died in Night 3
4. Farfalla - Witch (Mentee) formerly (Townie)
5. SirSamuel016 - Dark Prince (Detective) died in Night 4
6. Erinyes - Ringo (Sleeper) lynched on Day 7
7. James Rye - Klug (Townie) died in Night 5
8. BlackTiger - Maguro (Townie) lynched on Day 2
9. Lambu - Arle & Carbuncle (Mafia Member) lynched on Day 5
10. Takuan - Jay & Elle (Townie)
11. Seraph - Ess (Mafia Poisoner) lynched on Day 4
12. shinobi - Tee (Recruiting Mason) died in Night 1
13. Belserion - Ecolo (Bulletproof)
14. gnut - Lemres (Mentee) hostkilled on Day 5
15. digitaldude - Schezo (Mafia Member) lynched on Day 6
16. Asako - Rulue (Mafia Escort) prosecuted on Day 4
17. Spirit/@revo - Suketoudara (Paranoid Puyo Owner) hostkilled on Day 3
18. Imperium - O (Doctor) died in Night 3
19. Raven - Ai (Townie) lynched on Day 1
20. Hardy - Sig (Townie) died in Night 2
21. xi0 - Risukuma (Mafia Apprentice) lynched on Day 3

No spies.

1. goodboy_lawlett, Master of Astolfo Bodyguard (Lynched D8)
2. Farfalla, Master of Jeanne Alter Mafia Janitor (Lynched D3)
3. GrySun , Master of Vlad III Mortician (Died D3)
4. Demonspeed , Master of Gilgamesh Mafia Poisoner (Died D6)
5. Gajeel , Master of Ozymandis Detective (Died N1)

6. Takuan , Master of Waver Mafia Bomb (Lynched D7)
7. BD_Beno , Master of Mordred Mafia Boss (Died D2)
8. Asako , Master of BB Detective (Died N3)
9. Raven , Master of Mash Miller (Died D9)
10. Seraph , Master of King Arthur Townie (Lynched D1)

11. Brandish , Master of Gorgon Investigator (Died N5)
12. SirSamuel016 , Master of Musashi Mafia Assassin
13. Kato756 , Master of King Hassan Spirit Medium
(Hostkilled D6)
14. SonOfDaws , Master of Merlin Death Miller
15. Erinyes , Master of Scรกthach Mafia Boss
(Lynched D6)
16. desin24 , Master of Nobunaga Mafia Escort (Died D7)
17. MarmaladeSky , Master of Circe Spy (Died N1)
18. Juviii , Master of Florence Bodyguard (Died N2)
19. James Rye , Master of Karna Paranoid Gun Owner (Exploded D7)
20. gnut , Master of Arjuna Alter Detective (Died D4)
21. Vandred , Master of Kiara Mafia Pirate (Lynched D2)
22. Lady pompom , Master of Ana Daytime Vigilante (Traitor) (Died N3)
23. Zasz , Master of Eresh Mafia Burden (Lynched D4)

24. Belserion , Master of Okita Apprentice(Died D2)
25. digitaldude , Master of Nero Prostitute (Died N1)
26. Gryffindor , Master of Shiki Mafia Boss (Died N7)
27. Lambu , Master of Artoria Alter Doctor (Died D5)
28. shinobi , Master of Elizabeth Mafia Strongman
(Died D8)
29. lakhan220 , Master of Jeanne Mafia Detective (Lynched D5)

Whut? I was PGO once, man I totally forgot about that, same for my heroic sacrifice to throw myself at the Mafia bomb. Also massive game but one spy only.

@GrySun You know what other role besides Noble should become secondary? PGO. Because it isn't used on its own that often and it would add an interesting spin to see which townie get PGO as a randomized result meaning we might have a det or doc or spy who know they got a "one ticket of no kills happening to you (except in case you got blocked)".

Players:
Grysun as
Thor ----Insane Detective >>>> Killed Night 1
Farfalla as
Ant-Man --- Badass Cowboy >>>> killed Night 3
Holt as
Dr.strange --- Daytime Vigilante >>>> killed Night 4
MarmaladeSky as
Proxima Midnight -- Prostitute >>>> killed Night 6
Seraph as
Corvius Glave --- Strongman >>>> killed Night 7
Takuan as
The Hulk ---Bodyguard >>>> killed Night 2
James Rye as
Rocket Racoon --- Sane doctor>>>> lynched Day 7
Crescent Jinx as
The Winter Soldier --- Mafia escort >>>> lynched Day 4
Knightmare of heaven 0 as
Nebula --- Politician (traitor) >>> recruited Night 1 >>>> lynched Day 6
SonOfDaws as
Black Panther --- Mafia bruden >>>> lynched Day 8
Erinyes as
Scarlet Witch --- Sickly townie
Demonspeed as
Hawkeye --- Noble >>>> lynched Day 2
DigitalDude as
Flacon --- Spy >>>> killed Night 2
Belserion as
Drax the destroyer --- Insane doctor (traitor) >>> recruited Night 4 >>>> Winner
Desin24 as
IronMan --- Innocents child >>> get confirmed Day 4>>>> killed Night 6
Gajeel as
Ebony Maw --- Mafia detective >>>> lynched Day 5
Benomaru as
StarLord --- Mafia boss >>>> killed Night 7
Juviii as
Loki --- Witch >>>> killed Night 5
Copy Panda as
Captain America --- Bulletproof >>>> killed Night 2
Goodboy_lawlett as
Groot --- Mafia gambler >>>> lynched Day 3
Hardy as
SpiderMan --- Sane detective>>>> killed Night 5
Buffynut as
Gamora --- Hider >>>> Hostkilled Day 5
Lady Pompom as
Black widow ---- Kamikaze Bomb >>>> lynched Day 1
Lambu as
Thanos --- Mortician >>>> killed Night 3

Day 5
Vandred as Diarmuid Ua Duibine | Mafia Mason | Lynched on Day 5 (#2014)

Night 4
Seraph as Tohsaka Tokiomi |Mason | Killed during Night 4

Day 4
Crescent Jinx as Gilles de Rais | Mafia Mason | Lynched on Day 4 (#1984) (votes)
Lambu as Souichirou Kozuki | Mafia Mason | Killed by Seraph's Cowboy Phantasm Day 4

Night 3
Farfalla as Medusa | Politician | Killed during Night 3 (#1786)
GrySun as Cรบ Chulainn | Politician | Killed during Night 3 (#1786)

Day 3
Knightmare of heaven 0 as Matou Shinji | Mason | Double-lynched Day 3 (#1785) (votes)
Rikudou King as Matou Kariya | Prosecutor| Double-lynched Day 3 (#1785) (votes)
Holt as Gilgamesh | Mafia Mason | Killed by Iskanjeel's Cowboy Phantasm Day 3 (#1551)

Night 2
Belserion as Baber Saber Artoria King Arthur | Noble | Killed during Night 2 (#1302)

Day 2
xi0 as Kayneth El-Melloi Archibald | Illusion (Sickly| Traitor) | Died along Rin-chan Day 2
Juviii as Rin-chan | Shapeshifter | Lynched on Day 2 (#1302) (Votes)
โ€ก Brandish as Emiya Shirou | Mason | Hostkilled because revealed PM content (#950) โ€ก
โ€ก digitaldude as Heracles | Threesome Candidate | Killed in their Cowboy Phantasm duel against Farfalla (#950) โ€ก

Night 1
โ€ก James Rye as Lancelot | Mafia Mason | Killed during Night 1 (#720) โ€ก

Day 1
โ€ก
Takuan as Wava Veruvetto | Mafia Mason | Lynched on Day 1 (#718) (Votes) โ€ก
โ€ก
Erinyes as Illyasviel von Einzbern | Mafia Mason | Killed by Hardy's Cowboy Phantasm Day 1 (#386) โ€ก

No spies.

Players:
Seraph
as Yuki - Sane Doctor - lynched Day 4
GrySun
as Ryuji - Pirate>>>Vengeful Townie - Killed Night 1
MarmaladeSky
as Ann - Sane Detective - Killed Night 3
Lambu
as Makoto - Mafia escort - Winner
Demonspeed
as Futaba - ShapeShifter - lynched Day 3
Holt
as Yusuke - Sane Doctor - killed Night 2
Gajeel
as Ren - Kamikaze Bomb - Killed Night 1
Brandish
as Akechi -Bomb Defusing Townie- lynched Day 1
goodboy_lawlett as Tae - Mafia Detective - Killed Night 1/illusion shattered Day 3 - Winner
gnut
as Sojiro - Noble
DigitalDude
as Sae - Vengeful Townie>>>Regular Townie - lynched Day 2
Takuan
as Sadayako - Prostitute
SonOfDaws
as Igor - Mafia Boss - Winner
Copy
Panda as Morgana - Mortician - killed Night 2/illusion shattered Day 3

No spies.

1. Seraph Giorno Giovanna - Gold Experience (Mafia Escort) lynched on Day 3
2. GajeelNashi Illuso - Man in the Mirror (Mason) died in Night 8
3. Vandred Mario Zucchero - Soft Machine (Mafia Bomb) lynched on Day 5
4. Copy Panda Trish Una - Spice Girl (Detective) killed in Night 6
5. digitaldude Ghiaccio - White Album (Miller) lynched on Day 2
6. Crescent Jinx Guido Mista - Sex Pistols (Apprentice) died in Night 4
7. Lady pompom Prosciutto - The Grateful Dead (Investigator) died in Night 7
8. gnut Pesci - Beach Boy (Mafia Janitor) lynched on Day 6
9. Kato756 Leone Abbacchio - Moody Blues (Prostitute) lynched on Day 1
10. Nii Cioccolata - Green Day (Doctor) lynched on Day 9
11. SonOfDaws Jean Pierre Polnareff - Chariot Requiem (Hider) hostkilled on Day 2(died in Night 1)
12. Spirit Formaggio - Little Feet (Doctor) killed in Night 5
13. Arjuna Secco - Oasis (Mafia Poisoner) hostkilled on Day 5
14. Holt Risotto Nero - Metallica (Mafia Member) lynched on Day 9
15. shinobi Pannacotta Fugo - Purple Haze (Jesus) lynched on Day 7/revived on Day 9
16. Farfalla Scolippi - Rolling Stones (Detective) died in Night 2
17. Belserion Melone - Baby Face (Mafia Pirate) daykilled on Day 5
18. desin24 Bruno Bucciarati - Sticky Fingers (Bomb) exploded in Day 5
19. Gryffindor Vinegar Doppio - King Crimson (Sleeper) lynched on Day 4
20. Lambu Narancia Ghirga - Aerosmith (Spirit Medium) daykilled on Day 1

No spies again.

Players
1. Updated Barkeeper - Farfalla - Takeo: -> becomes Sleeper -> gets role stolen -> Vanilla + (Healthy Townie)
2. Sane Detective - Lambu -M21-> Mentored
3. Sane Doctor - Revo -Yukine
4. Prosecutor - Zasz -Regis
5. Sane Spy - Holt - Rai
6. Insane Detective - Kiki/Hardy -Fujisaki-> Mentored (Jammin teaching these Detectives xD lol)
7. Freeman - Juvia -Hiyori -> changed to prostitute N2 -> changed back to freeman D3
8. Restless Spirit - Gnut -Tao -> Changed to prostitute N2
9. Updated Pirate (Naive Traitor) - Erin-Nora -> stole Sleeper -> changed to Mortician
10. Noble - Gajeel Nashi -Kazuma
11.Townie Bomb - Vandred -Lunark -> became redirecting Bomb
12. Witch - Empty -Kofuku&Daikoku
13. Updated Bodyguard - Panda -Rael
14. Sub Teacher (+ Healthy Townie)
- Son of Daws -Seira>> Sub Mentor
15. Serial Killer - Shino -Alzacks/Rajakpic
16. Mentor - Jammin-Frankenstein
17. Mafia Apprentice (choice: Assassin or Bomb) - DIgiDude-Muzaka
18. Mafia Boss - Seraph -Yato -> became Mafia Detective
19. Mafia Escort - Kato -Dr. Crombel
20. Mafia Gambler - Marma -Kei Ru -> became Bomb

Awww, man~
Barkeeper..... :emocat

Anyway, none of those ten games had 2 spies, no matter their sanity, that means we stay at 2 games in 20 that had 2 spies and one of those 2 games had 2 sane ones. Also interesting to note, with those ten games we also stand at 5 games where 0 spies were involved in the game, so the likelihood of 0 spies is higher than it is with 2.
So much to your "2 spies are common in Mafia".
And with that I end my case of why 2 spies claims ain't really trustworthy. Also I really don't wanna do game 74 to 65, this takes up too much time to prove something that should be common sense.
 

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Oh then hosts are just doing it different from the standards set in the PM example thread. Sigh...
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@Farfalla @Copy Panda can you confirm or deny whether youโ€˜ve ever seen before this line of text?
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Why though? You saw where Shadโ€˜s โ€žI will reveal last 2 minutesโ€œ got him, what purpose does secrecy serve here for any of you.
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Meh guess we need to rewrite and change some stuff.
hey I'm not sure, we should ask them ne?

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If spy (both insane and sane) targets someone that does not perform any action, they both get a result that says "no result" right?
if spy (both sane and insane) targets someone but is blocked, they don't receive a reply at all right?
 

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@GrySun You know what other role besides Noble should become secondary? PGO. Because it isn't used on its own that often and it would add an interesting spin to see which townie get PGO as a randomized result meaning we might have a det or doc or spy who know they got a "one ticket of no kills happening to you (except in case you got blocked)".
โ€žhello me psychiatrist do you have secondary role?โ€œ
โ€œyes itโ€˜s pgo now you deadโ€œ
โ€œohโ€œ

No..
 

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uh no, I asked in the thread previously and I remember someone saying that if paranoid or sane spy's target does not perform any action, both paranoid and sane spy receive "no result", so regardless of sanity they'd get a result.

if blocked ofc they get no result, which is 100% what happened to avietar.
That was said by a player not the hosts though. Honestly paranoid is always a mess. Just look how Gry says even if blocked a spy should get a result saying that nothing happened to the observed player.

No she gave that hint but odd to me that you made entire trains of thoughts about other players like Hardy with just that assumption of her being blocked as the foundation. Shaky stuff James. Sus.
Why not? Evil made sense saying Desin offed EH to keep Hardy safe and that Hardy could be faking EH's role for all we know. If so the reason why Hardy could be so relaxed with Avi coming out as spy having spied on him was that he knew Avi was blocked in night 1.
Ofc in the end Hardy was what he claimed so obviously Avi couldn't see anything anyway. But if that is the case and mafia did for whatever reason chose Avi as their block target for night 1 then they wasted a block action on something that would have born no result anyway.
 
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