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Madame fallaFar's Daily Horoscope corner!
๐Ÿ”ฎ With the very last bits of their energy they can muster, the Teller takes to the stars one final time ๐Ÿ”ฎ

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โ™ˆ Aries โ™ˆ
"Sure, your sign might be considered a little unfiltered, bold and daring even; prone to being bored, one could say. But this also allows you to reach new heights other signs rarely ascend to. This week the Virgo moon will be in descent and Jupiter will be in retrograde, meaning it's high time for you to set out on a new venture. Yet, with the waning sun and rising tides also comes the warning not to overreach. Fate is a zero-sum game, and not one you can always win."

โ™‰Taurus โ™‰
"Despite your penchant for resting, over long enough periods of time, this might cause rusting. Your all-or-nothing demeanour makes it hard for you to change or to pivot at the exact moment you need. This week you will be once again presented with an opportunity and the stars have aligned for you to reach out. Though it might go against your nature, it might be your destiny."

โ™ŠGemini โ™Š
"You're charismatic and good with words, both written and in conversation. But your charm has a washing-machine type of effect; others believe you, no matter what you say, and consequently, you start believing it too. In the short term, that works wonders for you. In the long-term, you might find yourself cornered by a lack of good advice, and people around you to balance out your persona. This week, the stars will provide you with an opportunity in disguise to make a change in this. That person who argues against you might actually be looking out for you. For a change, it might be best to let someone else do the talking, and despite all odds, that might enrich your life greatly"

โ™‹ Cancer โ™‹
"You're a sensitive person who seeks both provide and give comfort. You forgive but don't forget, you set boundaries that are vigilantly guarded and maintained but are willing to take on the problems of others outside of that. You might find that this week requires you to shift the window a little, when a new but unknown problem shows up on the horizon. Though people tend to lose perspective when they face the unknown, the stars can do one better than disorient you, and instead, help you make acquaintance with a whole new worldview. Be open-minded this week, and see where it takes you."

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โ™Œ Leo โ™Œ
"Despite being a little vain, you exude warmth and creativity. Your larger-than-life persona makes you stand out and you like this accompanying a certain degree of luxury. And much like the King of Beasts, you hold back little energy when dealing with problems, both big and small. This week you will be asked to practice restraint and proportionality. Even the Lion needs rest."

โ™ Virgo โ™
"The Virgo sign is a compassionate one. You feel the need to be useful to others, no matter what. It helps that usually you are in fact the kind of person who can produce useful solutions. You have a million ideas per second that are produced by a rich tapestry of experience. Your quick thinking makes it so you can find quick fixes to whatever situation. This however does not mean there always is a solution, and you need to make peace with that. This week, try figuring out yourself, too."

โ™Ž Libra โ™Ž
"You hate being alone, but you also hate conflict. You see every side which makes it so you have trouble making decisions. But this week is not the time to get lost in fantasy and lose yourself to eventualities that might never occur. It is time to stand your ground and figure out how to break your current dead-lock. This week, you will have to decide. When you decide, go deeper than trying to understand both sides and instead try to figure out why you feel the need to mediate."

โ™ Scorpio โ™
"No sign takes betrayal worse than you do. And this week, you will be indeed faced with betrayal. Not necessarily someone you're close to, but someone you look up to - deem better than yourself - will disappoint you. While revenge is a dish best served callously, this week, it will be important for you to choose your battles, and bide your time. You don't know how much poison you will be needing going forward, and who to use it on, if you take out everything in sight."

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โ™ Sagittarius โ™
"You have no indoor voice and form opinions almost exclusively based on how you feel in the moment. Simultaneously, you are driven by self-improvement to the point of it being a fault. Truth is a weapon you use to dish out blunt trauma to all around you, even those who didn't deserve it, much less those who can defend themselves from it. This week you will be faced with a conundrum that requires a bit more emotional intelligence than you usually care to apply. Not for lack of possession of it, however. So tap into this richer side of yourself, and learn to furnish your weapon with this pageantry."

โ™‘ Capricorn โ™‘
"You're responsible and motivated by duty. Oriented around success, you might be a little hard to approach. Others think it, but you know it. While it may be comfortable keeping up these defences, the stars have a chance meeting for you planned this week that requires you to let down the draw bridge. It's good being an adult, but it's better not to lose sight of your childlike enthusiasms. Staying in touch with your past is not a bad thing if you understand your place in it."

โ™’ Aquarius โ™’
"You are in possession of the best sign. But that doesn't mean you are being your best self. You believe in freedom, having it and living it, but faultily, you also believe the opposite of freedom is restraint. This is not true; a little self-discipline would help you improve in all aspects of your life, and allow you to exploit said freedom better. Being free means the ability to choose and you would do well seeking more input from others before you choose how you want to be free."

โ™“ Pisces โ™“
"They say there's plenty of fish in the sea. And that's true. It's unfortunate then you're a sea-urchin. You also get into a fight with a duck you somehow manage to lose. Best to stay inside"
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๐Ÿ”ฎ Night Actions ๐Ÿ”ฎ




Aha here are the spicy night actions. Past Nacho's death, the DC didn't have much to vote on... So it was dissolved. Also, empty spaces may indicate that player didn't PM for whatever reason

I was going to do an elaborate player-by-player review like last time, but this time noona did it, and hers were pretty good so I'll stick to those :lmao

Compared to the previous burning building mechanic, I think noona and I pretty easily settled on the form of this idea, stamping out technicalities along the way. I thought the DC mechanic was pretty interesting, though perhaps not all effects were equally balanced (nor did all effects provide the DC with the same amount of powers). There is probably some more interesting concepts in this post-death corner to explore (coming to a panda game close to you). Coming up with all the effects was a little tricky but overall they produced a couple of interesting gamer moments. Hmm, I didn't expect a mafia to die to the N1 effect, I didn't think Jesus and day skip would be picked so quickly and I didn't expect horoscoping to be such hard work ๐Ÿ˜ค The tellers have it tough.

We wanted the game to have a mystical kind of atmosphere? The colours, avi's and text hopefully all contributed to that. Though usually I'm not necessarily fond of RNG, given the theme it seemed acceptable. We had to RNG onto a vote so that a majority of townies couldn't disregard a minority mafo. There was a rubberband kind of mechanic to a three-headed council, as the team that was getting bodied could attempt to control the course of the constellations. Introducing lovers into the game at a later point proved an interesting stimulant, in that even trusted players could get burnt. Inactive or unwilling players could refrain from engaging with the mechanic heavily. Living players didn't necessarily have to learn all the effects while they were playing; they could focus on the game and look up a list of more invested players after kicking the bucket.

I liked random-kuns debut. He helped a lot with Rin-chan-campaigning and has a penchant for omo'ing. It's a smart bot, for sure. It did its best. Not a lot to say about it, other than that I'm disappointed in the players who had random-kun RNG onto someone to vote for LOL, very painful. Its final deciding coin toss turned out to be pretty relevant. Apparently, random-kun has a penchant for multiples of 2 but will roll onto uneven numbers if you praise or intimidate it. Perhaps it keeps track of how everyone is treating it :heh. I think in these few cute paragraphs I've surmised most of my immediately relevant thoughts. Hopefully, less panda game shenanigans next time ๐Ÿ˜ค





๐ŸŒ  Once again, congratulations to the winners, and thank you for playing! ๐ŸŒ 
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Am finally home~ catching up right now
 

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We should have a bunch of mafias in this group of 8:
  • Marmalade - Naive Traitor + ???
  • James Rye - ???
  • Samuel - ???
  • Juviii - ???
  • Demonspeed - ???
  • Maryxxi - ???
  • Tatsumaki - ???
  • Gajeel - ???
Something like 3 at least imo, especially if you assume the 4 are a desin-list of townies only.

Assuming DD messed up and is mafia, desin is dead, that leaves 3 + Traitor or 4. Possibly some extra scums as well. So this group up there should be very scrutinized if you assume our 4 for today are town. Minus 1 if Margi was scum.
Are you expecting reveals, or hints from all those people at this stage?
You two really didn't read my hint to Gaj, didn't ya?
@Erinyes If you want you can add that on day 2 I said I used my action in night 1. Today I said I couldn't use my action in night 2. Dunno if you gonna survive though, plenty people seem happy to take your sacrifice offer up. Not gonna vote for you, sorry, either gonna be Asako or Brand. And from those two I'd prefer Brand over Asako, so @Equaling Heaven you're no longer alone on Brand.
Votekill Brandish @Copy Panda @Farfalla

Because there's no point in me telling what my role is as a passive player? If I claim, what are you going to do with that information? I couldn't care less about my activity. It was initially a personal life problem until today, but I think I'll keep being this active until you actually claim something now.

You and Juviii are shady as hell that's why you ought to claim right now. Too afraid to get caught like digitaldude aren't we?
Cause if you got the kinda passive role I think you have, then you played it totally wrong. You're supposed to get attention so that Mafia wastes their actions on you and not on our actual active town roles. Maybe you ain't scum but you sure as heck am supporting them by telling them outright that they can ignore you for the rest of the game.
The reason I ain't telling you my role is that the more people claim the easier it becomes for Mafia to figure out where the Dets and our last doc are. They need to keep guessing not outright know who to avoid and who to focus on, which is why Avi got told by Hardy to not use Spy like that, day 2 reveal and night 1 action reveal before the target/suspect said anything in those regards.
 

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@Erinyes @MarmaladeSky Could you find any posts of yours when you played thinking you were real Traitor, that in hindsight being read now would sound like the truth?
For example protecting one from your list, or trying to raise awareness via vote or other comments.
I did not actively try hinting at being a traitor - day1 I attempted at hinting more than I normally would about my role on a first day (my primary role I mean, not the traitor part). Mostly wanted to observe though, I've been both a real traitor and naive traitor before (though a long time ago) and it's a messy role lol. I was planning on hinting towards the traitor part day2. However, I wasn't convinced the list I received was filled with mafia members anymore - particularly Hardy did not come across as mafia for me.
Didn't really help that I couldn't be around much during day 2, but that was my own mistake (bad rl planning)

I wanna add that won't be revealing today i prefer not to yet, and also is like what i said i honestly could like to live, as meh this role is, it still have uses


This is honestly hard for me guys, that we have to sacrifice one of the 3 of us in this shitty list of desin
Suspect me all you want for not revealing but I don't think you guys one to talk when all those asking me to reveal haven't yet or giving any info about their role, at least I'm telling you some things
Why though? What makes it so hard to tell us a little bit more? It's just not really helpful I'd say... Same goes for Brandish ofcourse, Erin is being mysterious too but at least gave us a bit more to work with.
Just don't get it really, especially if it's a "meh" role.
 

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Votekill Asako!
 

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The reason I ain't telling you my role is that the more people claim the easier it becomes for Mafia to figure out where the Dets and our last doc are. They need to keep guessing not outright know who to avoid and who to focus on, which is why Avi got told by Hardy to not use Spy like that, day 2 reveal and night 1 action reveal before the target/suspect said anything in those regards.
I don't agree personally, but it is a fair point. I still suspect you, but I won't annoy you in this phase anymore. Though, if you come up with a stupid claim that I'm not expecting during the future phases, I'll vote lock you right away.

I guess we're all about that stalling gameplay now. See you in 4 phases if our detective(s) manages to find the scums.
 

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dd voted erin before me? hmmm makes me wanna change my vote

yea i thin imma vote for Asako

!votelock Asako

better to get a meh role out than whatever erin might be
 

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also i have a question for everyone, which sign would you think is best to be voted for the next phase?
Libra because hot potato is in the game plus iirc we have people that can find 'em. They either get caught or die by potato if rng bless us.
Maybe scorpio and cancer are good options too. Hardy and evil are town, they're there. I think we should use those before mafia can.
If Aquarius work how i think it is and the 4 name list is town only we could skip the night and avoid losing two people on the same cycle due forced lynch+night kill.
 

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My role was blocked N1 and I decided against using it last night. That is the most I feel comfortable in revealing/hinting.

I am also not voting today, by choice.

Be heading off soon and hopefully back for the final hours.
 

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i thought asako's "meh" role hint would make her a good candidate, but she's saying it will be useful so O_O idk

i will eventually change my vote but I'm getting a strong feeling that either there's no mafias in this list or if we have two smaller mafo teams then we'll get lucky with at least one of the 4 being from the second mafia that desin was not in if it was won by desin or idk I'm a bit confused as to who was in DC when the list of lynch candidates was voted for.

in any case i put a placeholder i'll lock on whoever you guys decide is more worth it, but we need to put some pressure, there are 7 hours left and there's a big lack in activity from a lot of people
to answer this question, this has been cleared by a host at the very beginning of this phase. the dc that gave us this list consists of margi, hardy and desin
 

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Sigh, i already guys told you i have a useful role, means i have a fucking useful role, if you want lynch me do it but we already know this list is form stupid desin and yet you're going for me, erin fine being lynched and if Im really I'm some fuck tard TP will i really wait this long to claim, after all they loners, no i could have fucking mess the shit out of everyone and not try to basically beg for for some hardy ass life or warn everyone how legit shad was, even with the evil case it was damn obvious to me that the two of them were wasting our time and probably townies fighting for no reasons, why I didn't even hump in the evil or hardy lynchs, instead i voted DD who was really a damn mafia

Do you really think i try hard to redirect townie in the right direction when with all the shit happening, no, instead it could been more beneficial to me if you do mess up for what do i care about, but i really did beg to leave hardy alive for at least an other day, will a TP really beg for someone life when there a chance they end up mafia and incriminate me more ?

Arghh, i told you it's useful, and i did react with meh but it's useful in this game


Dumbass....






Ok sorry for my language but I'm really really I'm pissed, for two days you guys basically been, haha vengeance vote last will shit, ignoring everything else around you, especially someone like gajeel that not talking and DD till he slip up

So many people in the background watching doing nothing while two townies burned each others, and two spies that revealed for no important information, just waste the one protection we may already have on them when they could keep being hidden for when the dets or even them could get a real result but noooo, let's reveal when we have nothing and when half the people didn't even give a single information beside "haha I'm active, haha"

Fucking hell
 

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Sigh, i already guys told you i have a useful role, means i have a fucking useful role, if you want lynch me do it but we already know this list is form stupid desin and yet you're going for me, erin fine being lynched and if Im really I'm some fuck tard TP will i really wait this long to claim, after all they loners, no i could have fucking mess the shit out of everyone and not try to basically beg for for some hardy ass life or warn everyone how legit shad was, even with the evil case it was damn obvious to me that the two of them were wasting our time and probably townies fighting for no reasons, why I didn't even hump in the evil or hardy lynchs, instead i voted DD who was really a damn mafia

Do you really think i try hard to redirect townie in the right direction when with all the shit happening, no, instead it could been more beneficial to me if you do mess up for what do i care about, but i really did beg to leave hardy alive for at least an other day, will a TP really beg for someone life when there a chance they end up mafia and incriminate me more ?

Arghh, i told you it's useful, and i did react with meh but it's useful in this game


Dumbass....






Ok sorry for my language but I'm really really I'm pissed, for two days you guys basically been, haha vengeance vote last will shit, ignoring everything else around you, especially someone like gajeel that not talking and DD till he slip up

So many people in the background watching doing nothing while two townies burned each others, and two spies that revealed for no important information, just waste the one protection we may already have on them when they could keep being hidden for when the dets or even them could get a real result but noooo, let's reveal when we have nothing and when half the people didn't even give a single information beside "haha I'm active, haha"

Fucking hell
Fwiw Iโ€˜d still switch to Brand or Erin if necessary. You sound legit.
 

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My role was blocked N1 and I decided against using it last night. That is the most I feel comfortable in revealing/hinting.

I am also not voting today, by choice.

Be heading off soon and hopefully back for the final hours.
Okay, there are a few roles I can think off which you don't want to make use of right away or only after something is certain. But I don't understand why you wouldn't want to vote today? Like that gives you penalty votes for next day phase. What use is in that?
 

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Iโ€˜d just skip a night phase with the one that does that.
Libra because hot potato is in the game plus iirc we have people that can find 'em. They either get caught or die by potato if rng bless us.
Maybe scorpio and cancer are good options too. Hardy and evil are town, they're there. I think we should use those before mafia can.
If Aquarius work how i think it is and the 4 name list is town only we could skip the night and avoid losing two people on the same cycle due forced lynch+night kill.
i think cancer would be a good one to protect EH (if prostitute is our priority)
also since the dc is ruled by townies (mostly or entirely depending on what margi is) we gotta make good use of it and go for signs that shouldn't be left for a mafia-ruled DC like scorpio and cancer that u mentionned and maybe leo too rather than the aquarius one i think.
also for the scorpio one that EH suggested, i dont think that is an option for the night phase, i think it will just make us waste it as the description of the sign says :
"If this Sign is voted for, every DC member can place a restless spirit-type vote at the end of the day. However, the link to the afterlife is not strong enough for them to leave a message of any kind.

If this Sign is chosen at night, nothing happens."
so if i understood Scorpio right, it should be left for a day phase, maybe for the next DC if it s townie ruled
 

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Tempted to vote Brandish for refusing to vote and apparently use his role.
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Sigh, i already guys told you i have a useful role, means i have a fucking useful role, if you want lynch me do it but we already know this list is form stupid desin and yet you're going for me, erin fine being lynched and if Im really I'm some fuck tard TP will i really wait this long to claim, after all they loners, no i could have fucking mess the shit out of everyone and not try to basically beg for for some hardy ass life or warn everyone how legit shad was, even with the evil case it was damn obvious to me that the two of them were wasting our time and probably townies fighting for no reasons, why I didn't even hump in the evil or hardy lynchs, instead i voted DD who was really a damn mafia

Do you really think i try hard to redirect townie in the right direction when with all the shit happening, no, instead it could been more beneficial to me if you do mess up for what do i care about, but i really did beg to leave hardy alive for at least an other day, will a TP really beg for someone life when there a chance they end up mafia and incriminate me more ?

Arghh, i told you it's useful, and i did react with meh but it's useful in this game


Dumbass....






Ok sorry for my language but I'm really really I'm pissed, for two days you guys basically been, haha vengeance vote last will shit, ignoring everything else around you, especially someone like gajeel that not talking and DD till he slip up

So many people in the background watching doing nothing while two townies burned each others, and two spies that revealed for no important information, just waste the one protection we may already have on them when they could keep being hidden for when the dets or even them could get a real result but noooo, let's reveal when we have nothing and when half the people didn't even give a single information beside "haha I'm active, haha"

Fucking hell
Did you lie when you said it was meh?

Also calm down lady, leave that language for your heartbreaker rebel phase :p
 

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Sigh, i already guys told you i have a useful role, means i have a fucking useful role, if you want lynch me do it but we already know this list is form stupid desin and yet you're going for me, erin fine being lynched and if Im really I'm some fuck tard TP will i really wait this long to claim, after all they loners, no i could have fucking mess the shit out of everyone and not try to basically beg for for some hardy ass life or warn everyone how legit shad was, even with the evil case it was damn obvious to me that the two of them were wasting our time and probably townies fighting for no reasons, why I didn't even hump in the evil or hardy lynchs, instead i voted DD who was really a damn mafia

Do you really think i try hard to redirect townie in the right direction when with all the shit happening, no, instead it could been more beneficial to me if you do mess up for what do i care about, but i really did beg to leave hardy alive for at least an other day, will a TP really beg for someone life when there a chance they end up mafia and incriminate me more ?

Arghh, i told you it's useful, and i did react with meh but it's useful in this game


Dumbass....






Ok sorry for my language but I'm really really I'm pissed, for two days you guys basically been, haha vengeance vote last will shit, ignoring everything else around you, especially someone like gajeel that not talking and DD till he slip up

So many people in the background watching doing nothing while two townies burned each others, and two spies that revealed for no important information, just waste the one protection we may already have on them when they could keep being hidden for when the dets or even them could get a real result but noooo, let's reveal when we have nothing and when half the people didn't even give a single information beside "haha I'm active, haha"

Fucking hell
i can feel your frustration thro my screen. now i think u might be genuine about the importance of your role, it's just the "meh" part you said before that is confusing
 

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i think cancer would be a good one to protect EH (if prostitute is our priority)
also since the dc is ruled by townies (mostly or entirely depending on what margi is) we gotta make good use of it and go for signs that shouldn't be left for a mafia-ruled DC like scorpio and cancer that u mentionned and maybe leo too rather than the aquarius one i think.
also for the scorpio one that EH suggested, i dont think that is an option for the night phase, i think it will just make us waste it as the description of the sign says :
"If this Sign is voted for, every DC member can place a restless spirit-type vote at the end of the day. However, the link to the afterlife is not strong enough for them to leave a message of any kind.

If this Sign is chosen at night, nothing happens."
so if i understood Scorpio right, it should be left for a day phase, maybe for the next DC if it s townie ruled
I thought that it would work just like pisces did. Pick during phase and it's effect activated right at the end.
Protecting me would be nice but I'm kind of nervous carrying this weight. But I don't think they trust me yet. I did input my action to block brandish and he confirmed being blocked but that's it.
 

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I thought that it would work just like pisces did. Pick during phase and it's effect activated right at the end.
Protecting me would be nice but I'm kind of nervous carrying this weight. But I don't think they trust me yet. I did input my action to block brandish and he confirmed being blocked but that's it.
idk, i could be wrong. let's just ask a host
Scorpio : "if this Sign is voted for, every DC member can place a restless spirit-type vote at the end of the day. However, the link to the afterlife is not strong enough for them to leave a message of any kind.

If this Sign is chosen at night, nothing happens."

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1. so if the actual DC votes scorpio, this sign will rule the upcoming night phase? thus it will have no effect?
2. if the next DC votes scorpio tonight it will rule the next day phase?
 
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