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Madame fallaFar's Daily Horoscope corner!
๐Ÿ”ฎ With the very last bits of their energy they can muster, the Teller takes to the stars one final time ๐Ÿ”ฎ

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โ™ˆ Aries โ™ˆ
"Sure, your sign might be considered a little unfiltered, bold and daring even; prone to being bored, one could say. But this also allows you to reach new heights other signs rarely ascend to. This week the Virgo moon will be in descent and Jupiter will be in retrograde, meaning it's high time for you to set out on a new venture. Yet, with the waning sun and rising tides also comes the warning not to overreach. Fate is a zero-sum game, and not one you can always win."

โ™‰Taurus โ™‰
"Despite your penchant for resting, over long enough periods of time, this might cause rusting. Your all-or-nothing demeanour makes it hard for you to change or to pivot at the exact moment you need. This week you will be once again presented with an opportunity and the stars have aligned for you to reach out. Though it might go against your nature, it might be your destiny."

โ™ŠGemini โ™Š
"You're charismatic and good with words, both written and in conversation. But your charm has a washing-machine type of effect; others believe you, no matter what you say, and consequently, you start believing it too. In the short term, that works wonders for you. In the long-term, you might find yourself cornered by a lack of good advice, and people around you to balance out your persona. This week, the stars will provide you with an opportunity in disguise to make a change in this. That person who argues against you might actually be looking out for you. For a change, it might be best to let someone else do the talking, and despite all odds, that might enrich your life greatly"

โ™‹ Cancer โ™‹
"You're a sensitive person who seeks both provide and give comfort. You forgive but don't forget, you set boundaries that are vigilantly guarded and maintained but are willing to take on the problems of others outside of that. You might find that this week requires you to shift the window a little, when a new but unknown problem shows up on the horizon. Though people tend to lose perspective when they face the unknown, the stars can do one better than disorient you, and instead, help you make acquaintance with a whole new worldview. Be open-minded this week, and see where it takes you."

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โ™Œ Leo โ™Œ
"Despite being a little vain, you exude warmth and creativity. Your larger-than-life persona makes you stand out and you like this accompanying a certain degree of luxury. And much like the King of Beasts, you hold back little energy when dealing with problems, both big and small. This week you will be asked to practice restraint and proportionality. Even the Lion needs rest."

โ™ Virgo โ™
"The Virgo sign is a compassionate one. You feel the need to be useful to others, no matter what. It helps that usually you are in fact the kind of person who can produce useful solutions. You have a million ideas per second that are produced by a rich tapestry of experience. Your quick thinking makes it so you can find quick fixes to whatever situation. This however does not mean there always is a solution, and you need to make peace with that. This week, try figuring out yourself, too."

โ™Ž Libra โ™Ž
"You hate being alone, but you also hate conflict. You see every side which makes it so you have trouble making decisions. But this week is not the time to get lost in fantasy and lose yourself to eventualities that might never occur. It is time to stand your ground and figure out how to break your current dead-lock. This week, you will have to decide. When you decide, go deeper than trying to understand both sides and instead try to figure out why you feel the need to mediate."

โ™ Scorpio โ™
"No sign takes betrayal worse than you do. And this week, you will be indeed faced with betrayal. Not necessarily someone you're close to, but someone you look up to - deem better than yourself - will disappoint you. While revenge is a dish best served callously, this week, it will be important for you to choose your battles, and bide your time. You don't know how much poison you will be needing going forward, and who to use it on, if you take out everything in sight."

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โ™ Sagittarius โ™
"You have no indoor voice and form opinions almost exclusively based on how you feel in the moment. Simultaneously, you are driven by self-improvement to the point of it being a fault. Truth is a weapon you use to dish out blunt trauma to all around you, even those who didn't deserve it, much less those who can defend themselves from it. This week you will be faced with a conundrum that requires a bit more emotional intelligence than you usually care to apply. Not for lack of possession of it, however. So tap into this richer side of yourself, and learn to furnish your weapon with this pageantry."

โ™‘ Capricorn โ™‘
"You're responsible and motivated by duty. Oriented around success, you might be a little hard to approach. Others think it, but you know it. While it may be comfortable keeping up these defences, the stars have a chance meeting for you planned this week that requires you to let down the draw bridge. It's good being an adult, but it's better not to lose sight of your childlike enthusiasms. Staying in touch with your past is not a bad thing if you understand your place in it."

โ™’ Aquarius โ™’
"You are in possession of the best sign. But that doesn't mean you are being your best self. You believe in freedom, having it and living it, but faultily, you also believe the opposite of freedom is restraint. This is not true; a little self-discipline would help you improve in all aspects of your life, and allow you to exploit said freedom better. Being free means the ability to choose and you would do well seeking more input from others before you choose how you want to be free."

โ™“ Pisces โ™“
"They say there's plenty of fish in the sea. And that's true. It's unfortunate then you're a sea-urchin. You also get into a fight with a duck you somehow manage to lose. Best to stay inside"
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๐Ÿ”ฎ Night Actions ๐Ÿ”ฎ




Aha here are the spicy night actions. Past Nacho's death, the DC didn't have much to vote on... So it was dissolved. Also, empty spaces may indicate that player didn't PM for whatever reason

I was going to do an elaborate player-by-player review like last time, but this time noona did it, and hers were pretty good so I'll stick to those :lmao

Compared to the previous burning building mechanic, I think noona and I pretty easily settled on the form of this idea, stamping out technicalities along the way. I thought the DC mechanic was pretty interesting, though perhaps not all effects were equally balanced (nor did all effects provide the DC with the same amount of powers). There is probably some more interesting concepts in this post-death corner to explore (coming to a panda game close to you). Coming up with all the effects was a little tricky but overall they produced a couple of interesting gamer moments. Hmm, I didn't expect a mafia to die to the N1 effect, I didn't think Jesus and day skip would be picked so quickly and I didn't expect horoscoping to be such hard work ๐Ÿ˜ค The tellers have it tough.

We wanted the game to have a mystical kind of atmosphere? The colours, avi's and text hopefully all contributed to that. Though usually I'm not necessarily fond of RNG, given the theme it seemed acceptable. We had to RNG onto a vote so that a majority of townies couldn't disregard a minority mafo. There was a rubberband kind of mechanic to a three-headed council, as the team that was getting bodied could attempt to control the course of the constellations. Introducing lovers into the game at a later point proved an interesting stimulant, in that even trusted players could get burnt. Inactive or unwilling players could refrain from engaging with the mechanic heavily. Living players didn't necessarily have to learn all the effects while they were playing; they could focus on the game and look up a list of more invested players after kicking the bucket.

I liked random-kuns debut. He helped a lot with Rin-chan-campaigning and has a penchant for omo'ing. It's a smart bot, for sure. It did its best. Not a lot to say about it, other than that I'm disappointed in the players who had random-kun RNG onto someone to vote for LOL, very painful. Its final deciding coin toss turned out to be pretty relevant. Apparently, random-kun has a penchant for multiples of 2 but will roll onto uneven numbers if you praise or intimidate it. Perhaps it keeps track of how everyone is treating it :heh. I think in these few cute paragraphs I've surmised most of my immediately relevant thoughts. Hopefully, less panda game shenanigans next time ๐Ÿ˜ค





๐ŸŒ  Once again, congratulations to the winners, and thank you for playing! ๐ŸŒ 
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I don't really have a preference for who goes first really, wanted to suggest they both say it at the same time.
(But that might be hard to arrange, someone is always first haha)
They could use the timer, at an agreed time.

Who am i kidding it won't work lol
 

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Nah ,i.m traitor. Up until asako got guilty on demon i thought i was sane, cuz dd and desin were on my list. But then, everything changed when firelord asako attacked. I didn.t send in my actuion because real like and my job is more important, excuse you xD. I.m not lovers. You can lynch me today, I.m offering on a silver platter,so you can see my secondary role and i can be done with your incriminations.
Your list had Asako???

What were all the names?
 

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About to head to work right now by the way, will be there for a huge chunk of the day so unable to really be here much till the last few hours.
Perhaps not a bad thing, I think my head needs a break because it's not working correctly lmao
 

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that would mean 2 secondary roles would be possible. I have never encountered that so please explain.
2 secondaries are possible and it did happen before. Gajeel could also be Sickly + Lover alongside his main role.
 

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The ''escort'' targetted avietar. Brandish targetted Demonspeed, but then why did an anonymous vote appear? One could theorize that Demonspeed wasn't in fact targetted by Brandish. There is also the possibility of a Mafia Noble in case Brandish is townie. In any case, there's nothing much we can do until the Noble reveals himself, and that's really good for us.
"Mafia Robber (Mafia) Day Action - If the Robber has killed somebody successfully in the previous night he can use the stolen vote of his victim in the day besides his own. The vote of the victim can only be given as a locked vote. He cannot collect more than one robbed vote. The anonymous vote can be placed on anyone, no restrictions."

the anonymous vote on me yesterday wasn't locked, so i don't think it was demonspeed's doing. This proves that demonspeed was in fact blocked, right?
 

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Marm was unprotected last night right? There are in no way 3 Naive traitors. Either sakura is lying or Marm took out DD to help her town claim, and thought of claiming Naive Traitor instead of real Traitor.

No way was it Erin, since she said she had me in her list and other dead townies.
 

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I'm sorry, I see I misunderstood you. Considering you didn't mention directly (before this post) that demon wasn't on your list, my brain thought he was.
all good, sorry I didn't directly specify, I slept 3 hours ;_;
They could use the timer, at an agreed time.

Who am i kidding it won't work lol
The list I had was : desin, DD, Juviii, Gajeel, Maryxxi

2 secondaries are possible and it did happen before. Gajeel could also be Sickly + Lover alongside his main role.
Ok, thanks for clearing it up, but it didn't happen when I played I think.
 

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"Mafia Robber (Mafia) Day Action - If the Robber has killed somebody successfully in the previous night he can use the stolen vote of his victim in the day besides his own. The vote of the victim can only be given as a locked vote. He cannot collect more than one robbed vote. The anonymous vote can be placed on anyone, no restrictions."

the anonymous vote on me yesterday wasn't locked, so i don't think it was demonspeed's doing. This proves that demonspeed was in fact blocked, right?
No, all anon votes are locked votes. A locked vote is basically a vote that cannot be changed anymore, and nobody can change an anon vote.
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And this actually shows me that Brandish is lying lmao. He did not block Demon, else the anon vote couldn't happen. No way mafia has Noble AND Robber, that's just overkill.
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Had forgotten until now that Brandish's target was Demon, he died a Robber and voted Mary. Their kill happened so how did they put a vote?
 

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Marm was unprotected last night right? There are in no way 3 Naive traitors. Either sakura is lying or Marm took out DD to help her town claim, and thought of claiming Naive Traitor instead of real Traitor.

No way was it Erin, since she said she had me in her list and other dead townies.
well if you think i got recruited you can check for my role tonight, or lynch me today. Plain and simple
 

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the anonymous vote on me yesterday wasn't locked, so i don't think it was demonspeed's doing. This proves that demonspeed was in fact blocked, right?
I think it was just a rushed typo, the spelling and no underline.

My name also misspelled :nah
 

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@MarmaladeSky i been thinking about this in the showers
But why could you go for gry N1 when you had traitor, wasn't gry in your list
Honestly if i see traitor + doc i could be first assuming I'm insane doc not sane so why go protect someone form your list
Plus kinda surprise to see you alive...
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And this actually shows me that Brandish is lying lmao. He did not block Demon, else the anon vote couldn't happen. No way mafia has Noble AND Robber, that's just overkill
Was it demon ?
 

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The list I had was : desin, DD, Juviii, Gajeel, Maryxxi
Then why do you think you're Naive? All of these are alive and unconfirmed imo.

Juviii you tried to kill because she was in your list? Or do you still say that she had an action?

@Gajeel correct me if I'm wrong but you could've obtained DD's Janitor or Demon's Robber, then pretended you got Sam's Doctor.

Mary also not confirmed yet, Demon tried to shade her in his passing. Her of all people.
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well if you think i got recruited you can check for my role tonight, or lynch me today. Plain and simple
I suppose then it should say you don't have a secondary role anymore. Interesting option. But if you're right I should keep searching for lovers then unless one landed on Gajeel.
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Was it demon ?
Yes Demon died Robber, and Brandish said he blocked him last night. And an anon vote was cast.
 

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No, all anon votes are locked votes. A locked vote is basically a vote that cannot be changed anymore, and nobody can change an anon vote.
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And this actually shows me that Brandish is lying lmao. He did not block Demon, else the anon vote couldn't happen. No way mafia has Noble AND Robber, that's just overkill.
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Had forgotten until now that Brandish's target was Demon, he died a Robber and voted Mary. Their kill happened so how did they put a vote?
I am prostitute.

You said similar about apprentice and pirate despite it happened. Even if robber and noble is an overkill in your view, it's not unthinkable for hosts who may think about design conventions??

Save yourself the drama and trust me.
 

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Gajeel is the lover guy, isn't he :nod
 

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You said similar about apprentice and pirate despite it happened. Even if robber and noble is an overkill in your view, it's not unthinkable for hosts who may think about design conventions??
"it happened", where exactly? Town Pirate and Apprentice are bad/overdone design. Mafia Pirate and town Apprentice however are fine. That's what you are, you fumbled so hard last phase.
 

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What do people think, does it matter who goes first?
So I spoke with the admin for a moment and now know what my response means (it was different from what I got the first nights).

All that's left for me to know now is who Tatsu targeted. It won't work if Tatsu says it after me, because then they could adjust their answer and I'd still know nothing.

Also: who targeted me last night again?

@Tatsumaki , I'm not out to incriminate you, just want to find answers. Can you please tell me who you targeted?
 

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@GrySun if i remember correctly tho N2 evil died with no ???
So they could killed him that night with robber
Now the question is, if brandish blocked demon, why did he have a death of EH N4
 

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Marm had Doctor claim, was believed by most and nobody else to protect her. They went for her last night for sure. I think she big-brained us with the Naive claim.
Mary used Bodyguard on Asako iirc?
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@GrySun if i remember correctly tho N2 evil died with no ???
So they could killed him that night with robber
Now the question is, if brandish blocked demon, why did he have a death of EH N4
You can't save up the anon vote though. They either use it next day D3(they didn't) or it goes to waste. Demon absolutely killed the night Brandish blocked him.
 

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"it happened", where exactly? Town Pirate and Apprentice are bad/overdone design. Mafia Pirate and town Apprentice however are fine. That's what you are, you fumbled so hard last phase.
Yes you were talking about pirate and apprentice. Are you upgrading to M.Pirate and apprentice, just coz the linked debunked you the other day?

Care to tell me how Escort + M.Pirate(Prostitute) failed to stop anyone last night lol
 

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Don't forget James is also still playing. If tatsu is real Banshee then James' Avenger feels like a fake claim, but if Tatsu is mafia boss then James is real. Thing is, Banshee is objectively the better scum claim as it can kill when it dies, Avenger can't do anything when he dies but someone else dies. But them never revealing(for good reason) who their target is also makes Avenger super easy to lie about indefinitely.
 
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