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Madame fallaFar's Daily Horoscope corner!
๐Ÿ”ฎ With the very last bits of their energy they can muster, the Teller takes to the stars one final time ๐Ÿ”ฎ

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โ™ˆ Aries โ™ˆ
"Sure, your sign might be considered a little unfiltered, bold and daring even; prone to being bored, one could say. But this also allows you to reach new heights other signs rarely ascend to. This week the Virgo moon will be in descent and Jupiter will be in retrograde, meaning it's high time for you to set out on a new venture. Yet, with the waning sun and rising tides also comes the warning not to overreach. Fate is a zero-sum game, and not one you can always win."

โ™‰Taurus โ™‰
"Despite your penchant for resting, over long enough periods of time, this might cause rusting. Your all-or-nothing demeanour makes it hard for you to change or to pivot at the exact moment you need. This week you will be once again presented with an opportunity and the stars have aligned for you to reach out. Though it might go against your nature, it might be your destiny."

โ™ŠGemini โ™Š
"You're charismatic and good with words, both written and in conversation. But your charm has a washing-machine type of effect; others believe you, no matter what you say, and consequently, you start believing it too. In the short term, that works wonders for you. In the long-term, you might find yourself cornered by a lack of good advice, and people around you to balance out your persona. This week, the stars will provide you with an opportunity in disguise to make a change in this. That person who argues against you might actually be looking out for you. For a change, it might be best to let someone else do the talking, and despite all odds, that might enrich your life greatly"

โ™‹ Cancer โ™‹
"You're a sensitive person who seeks both provide and give comfort. You forgive but don't forget, you set boundaries that are vigilantly guarded and maintained but are willing to take on the problems of others outside of that. You might find that this week requires you to shift the window a little, when a new but unknown problem shows up on the horizon. Though people tend to lose perspective when they face the unknown, the stars can do one better than disorient you, and instead, help you make acquaintance with a whole new worldview. Be open-minded this week, and see where it takes you."

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โ™Œ Leo โ™Œ
"Despite being a little vain, you exude warmth and creativity. Your larger-than-life persona makes you stand out and you like this accompanying a certain degree of luxury. And much like the King of Beasts, you hold back little energy when dealing with problems, both big and small. This week you will be asked to practice restraint and proportionality. Even the Lion needs rest."

โ™ Virgo โ™
"The Virgo sign is a compassionate one. You feel the need to be useful to others, no matter what. It helps that usually you are in fact the kind of person who can produce useful solutions. You have a million ideas per second that are produced by a rich tapestry of experience. Your quick thinking makes it so you can find quick fixes to whatever situation. This however does not mean there always is a solution, and you need to make peace with that. This week, try figuring out yourself, too."

โ™Ž Libra โ™Ž
"You hate being alone, but you also hate conflict. You see every side which makes it so you have trouble making decisions. But this week is not the time to get lost in fantasy and lose yourself to eventualities that might never occur. It is time to stand your ground and figure out how to break your current dead-lock. This week, you will have to decide. When you decide, go deeper than trying to understand both sides and instead try to figure out why you feel the need to mediate."

โ™ Scorpio โ™
"No sign takes betrayal worse than you do. And this week, you will be indeed faced with betrayal. Not necessarily someone you're close to, but someone you look up to - deem better than yourself - will disappoint you. While revenge is a dish best served callously, this week, it will be important for you to choose your battles, and bide your time. You don't know how much poison you will be needing going forward, and who to use it on, if you take out everything in sight."

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โ™ Sagittarius โ™
"You have no indoor voice and form opinions almost exclusively based on how you feel in the moment. Simultaneously, you are driven by self-improvement to the point of it being a fault. Truth is a weapon you use to dish out blunt trauma to all around you, even those who didn't deserve it, much less those who can defend themselves from it. This week you will be faced with a conundrum that requires a bit more emotional intelligence than you usually care to apply. Not for lack of possession of it, however. So tap into this richer side of yourself, and learn to furnish your weapon with this pageantry."

โ™‘ Capricorn โ™‘
"You're responsible and motivated by duty. Oriented around success, you might be a little hard to approach. Others think it, but you know it. While it may be comfortable keeping up these defences, the stars have a chance meeting for you planned this week that requires you to let down the draw bridge. It's good being an adult, but it's better not to lose sight of your childlike enthusiasms. Staying in touch with your past is not a bad thing if you understand your place in it."

โ™’ Aquarius โ™’
"You are in possession of the best sign. But that doesn't mean you are being your best self. You believe in freedom, having it and living it, but faultily, you also believe the opposite of freedom is restraint. This is not true; a little self-discipline would help you improve in all aspects of your life, and allow you to exploit said freedom better. Being free means the ability to choose and you would do well seeking more input from others before you choose how you want to be free."

โ™“ Pisces โ™“
"They say there's plenty of fish in the sea. And that's true. It's unfortunate then you're a sea-urchin. You also get into a fight with a duck you somehow manage to lose. Best to stay inside"
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๐Ÿ”ฎ Night Actions ๐Ÿ”ฎ




Aha here are the spicy night actions. Past Nacho's death, the DC didn't have much to vote on... So it was dissolved. Also, empty spaces may indicate that player didn't PM for whatever reason

I was going to do an elaborate player-by-player review like last time, but this time noona did it, and hers were pretty good so I'll stick to those :lmao

Compared to the previous burning building mechanic, I think noona and I pretty easily settled on the form of this idea, stamping out technicalities along the way. I thought the DC mechanic was pretty interesting, though perhaps not all effects were equally balanced (nor did all effects provide the DC with the same amount of powers). There is probably some more interesting concepts in this post-death corner to explore (coming to a panda game close to you). Coming up with all the effects was a little tricky but overall they produced a couple of interesting gamer moments. Hmm, I didn't expect a mafia to die to the N1 effect, I didn't think Jesus and day skip would be picked so quickly and I didn't expect horoscoping to be such hard work ๐Ÿ˜ค The tellers have it tough.

We wanted the game to have a mystical kind of atmosphere? The colours, avi's and text hopefully all contributed to that. Though usually I'm not necessarily fond of RNG, given the theme it seemed acceptable. We had to RNG onto a vote so that a majority of townies couldn't disregard a minority mafo. There was a rubberband kind of mechanic to a three-headed council, as the team that was getting bodied could attempt to control the course of the constellations. Introducing lovers into the game at a later point proved an interesting stimulant, in that even trusted players could get burnt. Inactive or unwilling players could refrain from engaging with the mechanic heavily. Living players didn't necessarily have to learn all the effects while they were playing; they could focus on the game and look up a list of more invested players after kicking the bucket.

I liked random-kuns debut. He helped a lot with Rin-chan-campaigning and has a penchant for omo'ing. It's a smart bot, for sure. It did its best. Not a lot to say about it, other than that I'm disappointed in the players who had random-kun RNG onto someone to vote for LOL, very painful. Its final deciding coin toss turned out to be pretty relevant. Apparently, random-kun has a penchant for multiples of 2 but will roll onto uneven numbers if you praise or intimidate it. Perhaps it keeps track of how everyone is treating it :heh. I think in these few cute paragraphs I've surmised most of my immediately relevant thoughts. Hopefully, less panda game shenanigans next time ๐Ÿ˜ค





๐ŸŒ  Once again, congratulations to the winners, and thank you for playing! ๐ŸŒ 
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And all I know I already found the mafia lover on you Gajeel. Would be super awful luck that it gets hidden on a Sickly so it's unfindable. If Sakura is telling the truth she's not the town lover so I'm back at nothing.
I'm grateful you think that. Now mafia won't target me which will allow me to use Doctor even more.
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Whether I find the town lover or mafia lover doesn't matter because whoever we lynch the other falls too.
No, I'm talking about the day discussion, not your night actions.
 

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1. We're approaching endgame, tying your claim to Marm isn't a bad idea as mafia if you don't expect yourself or her to die. Mafia can easily expect people to suspect claimed Traitors when kills are missing, so by having "protected" her you remove her from the suspects. It's not more or less sus on you to target anyone, as long as Marm never dies.
2. But you're contradicting yourself now. Giving fake results with Necro to get someone lynched will show you're a liar after the mislynches. So doing that is a big risk.

You're telling me here that covering for recruited Marm with your claim is too sus of a play for you, but lying with Necro result isn't? That's just contradicting. You can't defend yourself with 2 opposites in same situations.

Afaik you didn't find anything with Mortician that wasn't already known, you claimed it after all investigators claimed their Evil targetting. Not very hard to fake.
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Remind me how are you trusted again?
i hate myself for not being able to answer this and i hate myself for playing this game again.
 

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Both Marmalade and I protected Asako last night. Mafia could just have missed their kill by targetting Asako. Stop focusing on the traitor like it's the only thing in the world right now.
No way do they attempt that unless both Mary and Marm are scum and wouldn't Doc-protect Asako. She was way too risky a target, especially with the sign giving a role. You knew you got your role swapped at start of night right? Similarly scum could tell if one of their buddies gave them a role, so they can know another Doc is out there.
Even worse if Mary is town she had protective roles in the grave to use, the kill on Asako could never succeed.

Why they didn't block her is a much bigger question.
 

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It's pretty frustrating if sakura is town :/. All she really does is confuse us even more.
where's the broken heart react when you need it ๐Ÿ’”
 

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not right now zzzzzz
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No way do they attempt that unless both Mary and Marm are scum and wouldn't Doc-protect Asako.
Marma looked like she would target avietar again if you ask me since she was on her since night 2 I believe. That's why I went for Asako. Don't know about Mary though.
 

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i hate myself for not being able to answer this and i hate myself for playing this game again.
Wdym with "not being able to answer"? Run out of arguments? Then at least agree with me that what I said is reasonable. You can't say that you wouldn't do a risky thing as mafia, then turn around and say you'd do a risky thing as mafia.
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Marma looked like she would target avietar again if you ask me since she was on her since night 2 I believe. That's why I went for Asako. Don't know about Mary though.
She had the Bodyguard left + Sam's role(which was revealed at that point I think no?). There's a surprlus of Doctors here that you wouldn't even touch a Det without Strongman.
 

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LOL what, you're making headcanons now. I'm not so sure anymore she's lover and not Traitor like she said. One between her and Marm simply has to be real Traitor, no way we only had 2 naive ones. Finding which one it is will lead us to the rest of the mafias imo. You completely ignoring them is raising all sorts of alarms in me.
i think you mean to say 3 naive ones, otherwise your contradicting the previous part of the sentence there.
 

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Wdym with "not being able to answer"? Run out of arguments? Then at least agree with me that what I said is reasonable. You can't say that you wouldn't do a risky thing as mafia, then turn around and say you'd do a risky thing as mafia.
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She had the Bodyguard left + Sam's role(which was revealed at that point I think no?). There's a surprlus of Doctors here that you wouldn't even touch a Det without Strongman.
1. yes that's what i mean
2. no i don't have sam's role. sam's role is apprentice. apprentice needs to target a person 2 nights to learn from them. while necromancing a role only allows u to use it once. why would i take sam's role?
 

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i think you mean to say 3 naive ones, otherwise your contradicting the previous part of the sentence there.
Right I meant 3, been a while since Erin. But imo she was clearly naive, leaving you 2 as 2 more naives... No chance.

Do you think Marm was recruited and by who?
 

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i hate myself for not being able to answer this and i hate myself for playing this game again.
ah, that yourube video is exactly how I feel like xDDD this game always gives me headaches when town
 

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1. yes that's what i mean
2. no i don't have sam's role. sam's role is apprentice. apprentice needs to target a person 2 nights to learn from them. while necromancing a role only allows u to use it once. why would i take sam's role?
If Gajeel is telling the truth he got Doctor from Sam and not Apprentice, so technically you were able to use Doctor as well. I'd still consider using it since high chance Gajeel is BSing.
 

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Samuel was indeed Doctor so Marmalade is 100% confirmed.
'Xcept for the little traitor detail which we still don't know if it was the truth if she was naive or not. And no death last night means someone got saved by protection or someone got recruited. And why shouldn't the Mafia go after, from their knowledge, the last doc in-game?

We should be fine. 7 vs 2 vs 2. We will win no matter what.
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assuming they started with 6*
Yeah, this match is already a done deal for town. Only question is how many towns will have to die before the last mafia/lover is found.

Ehhh @Tatsumaki is in the clear, they are innocent guys


Seeing how brandish blocked juviii i wonder if i should stick on her considering i went with her at first but later changed my mind....
But kinda glad i investigated tatsu at the same time as she had the biggest chance to get yetted by the lynch
As long as Tatsu ain't Boss, you're right. So I guess Tatsu is off the lynch list until much later.

Marm if 5 + traitor is balanced?
Lol, if that is the case then that would be a pretty weak Mafia vs 2 spies, 2 docs, 1 hoe, 1 BG, 1 det, 1 psy, 1 necro, etc etc etc with a single kill each night. Like in that case it is a wonder their kills didn't got stopped earlier than tonight. XD

Goodmorning. My target was Asako last night ^^
Good choice.
Did you got recruited?

I am prostitute.

You said similar about apprentice and pirate despite it happened. Even if robber and noble is an overkill in your view, it's not unthinkable for hosts who may think about design conventions??

Save yourself the drama and trust me.
You're still a Mafia Pirate risk until Asako proves you though. Curious to hear Asako didn't got blocked last night, I expected the Escort to go after her. Maybe they do got a Boss after all and were betting on the chance of having their Boss be proven as innocent?

Don't forget James is also still playing. If tatsu is real Banshee then James' Avenger feels like a fake claim, but if Tatsu is mafia boss then James is real. Thing is, Banshee is objectively the better scum claim as it can kill when it dies, Avenger can't do anything when he dies but someone else dies. But them never revealing(for good reason) who their target is also makes Avenger super easy to lie about indefinitely.
I don't mind telling you my target from night 1 because I am starting to think that person never gonna die, lol.

Personally I would go after either Tatsu, Juviii, Brand, Marma or Gaj. If there are still 3 Mafias in-game, whenever the 3rd got recruited or not, then the chances for at least 2 of them being in there are the highest. Obviously if you guys don't wanna risk one of the important role claims, I can offer myself as sacrifice today. If I can't extra kill to prove myself I'm useless anyway.

Now go nuts, Mafia scum and try to get me lynched if you feel it to be so easy.
 

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Lynch Juviii, I'll votelock last, then die if she's Bomb and show you how you threw the game. It's a win for me.
 

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The more I think about it the more my Gajeel theory fits perfectly.

Notice how Gajeel immediately claimed he got Doc from Sam, right as the day started? No town ever would come out as Doctor while being known as a different role. He knows mafia won't kill him because he's mafia sickly. He never sicklied because he did something else with his main mafia role the other nights.
He shared it for credibility only, as "nobody would lynch a Doc".
 

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Right I meant 3, been a while since Erin. But imo she was clearly naive, leaving you 2 as 2 more naives... No chance.

Do you think Marm was recruited and by who?
honestly idk what happened last night, I was hoping they somehow targeted one of the protected roles ....and idk if marm got recruited or not idk if traitor can still be recruited if they received lover role... i am very confused so idk what to say on that :(
 

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If Gajeel is telling the truth he got Doctor from Sam and not Apprentice, so technically you were able to use Doctor as well. I'd still consider using it since high chance Gajeel is BSing.
oh u re right.
 

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Gajeel, Mary and Marm for last 3? If Mary and Marm are innocent(you two know if you are), replace with Sakura and James/Juviii. GG EZ.
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Yeah, this match is already a done deal for town. Only question is how many towns will have to die before the last mafia/lover is found.
You think only 1 mafia is left? Why?
 

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Am off to walk the dog, have fun.
 

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You're still a Mafia Pirate risk until Asako proves you though. Curious to hear Asako didn't got blocked last night, I expected the Escort to go after her. Maybe they do got a Boss after all and were betting on the chance of having their Boss be proven as innocent?
Either that or town lover imo. No reason they'd let the Det be unless the Det was of no danger anymore. At least an escort block was to be expected.
 
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