Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2021] - Discussion and ToC Talk

[ItsSamu]

Yeah, I don't see One Piece ending in 2024/2025. With the amount of breaks and inevitable extra length it'll take to wrap everything up I'd guess at least 2027 at the earliest. It's definitely going to enter its final saga, but Wano isn't likely to conclude this year. At the point the arc does end it will have gone on for nearly/over 4 years (started July 2018); I don't think any arc will match it's length but the final saga has to include several more key islands/destinations before its over and will probably be just as long or longer than Wano in its entirety. It'll for sure be done this decade but I don't believe it's happening soon.

The only series I think could outlast One Piece right now would be Sakamoto Days. I wouldn't be surprised if everything has concluded by that point.

Neru has a long life ahead of it ~dattebayo, believe it~ as a great philosopher stated in america.

You don't actually believe that. Maybe you want it to happen like when you were convinced Agravity Boys being at the bottom for its entire lifetime was a mistake or bound to increase, but a failed series whose four rankings so far have ranged from 12th to 14th and has been at the very bottom will be lucky to make it to 20 chapters.

On Mission: Yozakura Family, congrats to its fans. Minus an anime announcement it that's almost as good of a 100 chapter celebration as you can get. In terms of a future anime, if the series is lucky it will get a studio who will adapt 2-cours, keep the comedy for the first cour and then end on the first long action arc we had to hook more people. Tightening it up and keeping it polished would benefit it more than a long drawn out adaptation. The Black Clover anime has its fanbase for sure, but it hasn't impacted the success of the manga near as much as any of the recent well done seasonal adaptations.

As for the TOC, Jujutsu Kaisen still not near the top like it always was pre-hiatus (probably a conscious choice by the editors), Me & Roboco looks very smart up top again, and Red Hood and Neru are 100% ending next time. Neither has shifted into super speed yet in approaching their early ends so I'm curious how they will handle that in their story (and it'll be a shame to see them end so soon).

 

[KiMiTo]

Will One Piece outlast every current ongoing manga in the magazine?

There is a really-really big chance for that. Even if Oda have said that after Wano, we are going in the endgame, there are a huge amount of things that need to be resolved and to happen, so yeah, a big chance to outlast them all.

 

[Shinuki no Reborn]

Dr. Stone lead color page

Mission: Yozakura Family color page

Blue Box color page

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New Sket Dance anime visual for the 10th anniversary

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The official announcement for My Hero Academia Season 6 on Shonen Jump #43

 

[Tamil]

Shot in the dark but I say Yoza will get Sunrise/Bandai Namco Pictures

only if they give it a better budget than world trigger

What? WT looks great with season 2 lol.

Having great animation may not be everything, but it helps a lot.

There's a saying that goes, "less is more", and if Yozakura follows the season pattern and is produced by a studio like bones, MAPPA or even David produccion it would boost its popularity.

That's true but not everything has to be by Bones/DP/etc to become popular. In fact look at Vanitas (bones), while it looks fantastic it didn't do much for it's sales boost

 

[OtterBrigade]

Yeah I don't think studio is as important to a series blowing up as people make it out to be. Tokyo Revengers got huge with a mediocre looking adaptation by Liden Films while DP and Bones (not so much ufotable but they don't do a ton of stuff anyway) have quite a bit that didn't have any noticeable sales improvement on the source. I don't think there's any magic "success" forumla or everyone would be (attempting to) use it. It's probably just a combination of solid source and luck.

 

[Minsel]

What? WT looks great with season 2 lol.

keyword "season 2"

 

[Shinuki no Reborn]

Thanks for your votes!

BEST COLOR PAGE OF SHONEN JUMP #42 - RESULTS​

1. Sakamoto Days Chapter 39 (28 Votes)

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2. PPPPPP Chapter 1 (12 Votes)

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3. Ayakashi Triangle Chapter 60 (11 Votes)

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4. Me & Roboco Chapter 57 (2 Votes)

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[Teennitro]

Yeah I don't think studio is as important to a series blowing up as people make it out to be. Tokyo Revengers got huge with a mediocre looking adaptation by Liden Films while DP and Bones (not so much ufotable but they don't do a ton of stuff anyway) have quite a bit that didn't have any noticeable sales improvement on the source. I don't think there's any magic "success" forumla or everyone would be (attempting to) use it. It's probably just a combination of solid source and luck.

Marketing and a popular voice actor also helps.One of the reason why the third my hero movie doing so good because the voice actor for rody is really popular

 

[SharkBait]

if studio, good animation, popular voice actor, and marketing truly mattered then we'd have unlimited successful series, but as we can see there is no winning formula or predictability to succeeding. Its all about what gets people talking and no one can predict it.

After all, if they did, then everything that was chosen to run in a magazine out of those series that were not chosen would all be success stories since no magazine purposefully chooses "duds"

 

[Shinuki no Reborn]

There's no "magical" formula, but things aren't simply "destiny/luck" too, if you look at the list of SJ anime adaptations you will notice that there's at least some things that lead to a bigger success potential like the vast majority of anime series that resulted in big boosts being at least a 24/25 eps season, The Promised Neverland is pratically the only 12 eps cour that resulted in a real big boost (there's MHA but it became 24/25 from S2), most of 1 cour Jump anime has a tendency of being either more "low budget" or not resulting in much of a boost in sales, in my opinion, more than animation quality, Yozakura needs to be a traditional SJ anime of 24 episodes, or it will end up being like Medaka Box that had a 1 cour season that suffered from only adapting the first School/SoL part of the series instead of the praised stuff.

 

[OtterBrigade]

Yeah, I'm not really a fan of Yozakura but I'd agree if it doesn't get at least 2 cour it will probably just fall to obscurity.

 

[galaxy-juice]

There's no "magical" formula, but things aren't simply "destiny/luck" too, if you look at the list of SJ anime adaptations you will notice that there's at least some things that lead to a bigger success potential like the vast majority of anime series that resulted in big boosts being at least a 24/25 eps season, The Promised Neverland is pratically the only 12 eps cour that resulted in a real big boost (there's MHA but it became 24/25 from S2), most of 1 cour Jump anime has a tendency of being either more "low budget" or not resulting in much of a boost in sales, in my opinion, more than animation quality, Yozakura needs to be a traditional SJ anime of 24 episodes, or it will end up being like Medaka Box that had a 1 cour season that suffered from only adapting the first School/SoL part of the series instead of the praised stuff.

Medaka Box had a split 2-cour. Medaka Box Abnormal started 4 months after the first season ended, and adapted one of the major action arcs.

 

[Shinuki no Reborn]

Medaka Box had a split 2-cour. Medaka Box Abnormal started 4 months after the first season ended, and adapted one of the major action arcs.

I know, i pointed the series because due to at first being a 1 cour that only adapted normal chapters, it hurt the growth potential and hype towards the series.

 

[Khurram]

Spoiler: P6 ch 2 color page

 

[Shinuki no Reborn]

Good color page, theres potential for some stunning color pages if do well and the author is able to develop his art

 

[Khurram]

I want red hood to survive ,idk what went wrong

 

[KiMiTo]

Studio, Animation, Marketing, the content that they are going to adapt, how they'll adapt it, will there be a pointless filler stuffs and etc. They matters in the process of making an adaption of a manga.

The studio itself can bring a lot of attention and fans of the studio to see the adaptation. If the animation is good, it can bring sakuga fans on board. And not only them, people will start to talk "Hey, this new anime have a crazy animation, check it out." If it's not, well, it depends how bad it is. If it's awful, a lot of people will drop it and maybe pick the manga if they liked the story and the premise. But the future of the anime will be not so bright, if only the minority of people watches it and the reception is bad. And let's be honest - a combination of good story and a good animation can never go wrong. Of course, if the story is good and the animation is mediocre, the anime adaptation still can be a success. But if the story is meh, you can't expect the animation to save it.

Bad pacing, changing stuffs from the manga, adding a pointless fillers can cause an irreparable damage to the anime adaptation. It can cease to exist and there it is for the biggest boost source of the manga.

Sure, like many-many things in this world, there are no magical formula for success. But there are things that you can do right and minimize the chance for fail.

 

[Neala897]

And let's be honest - a combination of good story and a good animation can never go wrong.

If I remember right anime barely boosted Sangatsu despite both being really good.

 

[Pietro]

Spoiler: P6 ch 2 color page

Horrible color page. It looks a child drawing...

 

[KiMiTo]

If I remember right anime barely boosted Sangatsu despite both being really good.

Yeah, you are right, but the anime itself was a great success. And by the time the anime started, imo Sangatsu has reached its peak as slice of life seinen.