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How does Jacob even overwhelm her in normal combat though? Lucy could keep up with a FULL powered Satan Soul Mirajane who had assistance from Elfman. This Mirajane was much stronger than Alvarez Mirajane.Jacob. Lucy's decently powered up and I think Urano Metria is good enough to put him down, but Jacob overwhelms her in normal combat to the point where she'd never be able to use it. 3 spirits aren't enough to substitute for 1 base Natsu.
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Did you forget the fact that Natsu proceeded to wipe the floor with Jacob once he allowed him to get serious cause he didn't want Natsu destroying the guild.Jacob stomps, current lucy is not even beating hades, let alone spriggan.
Yeah by closing his EYES. that's what she had meant. He didn't lower is durability or attack power which lead to him being oneshotted by her once she went Satan Soul.Jacob wins, even with this power up from Lucy, I doubt that even that will put Jacob into the ground, Mira said in an interview that Jacob lowered his stats in a battle with her to fight evenly.
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under normal circumstances that could be the case but not here as it was stated by mira that they are fighting evenly because of that https://v2.mangapark.net/manga/fairy-tail/i1628909/22, plus she had time to recover her magic power before the next battle, power stats are indeed based on one’s condition, because if that were the case then Brandish would have been one shotted by Lucy who had Taurus dress on which massively amplifies her strength when before with her hey fever was knocked out by a punch to the back of the head, plus one can put magic power into defensive capabilities. Like so:Yeah by closing his EYES. that's what she had meant. He didn't lower is durability or attack power which lead to him being oneshotted by her once she went Satan Soul.
His Durability is hot garbage my dude.
And Mirajane is an extremely modest mage by the way.
You're arguing that Mirajane would stay in her BASE form and only use her SS form until the end? Especially against a SPRIGGAN? Bruh she was tired from her fight against Juliet and Heine and tortured by Irene. Mirajane doesn't like underestimating her opponents especially Spriggans so she would've instantly transform had she got the Mp to. Wtf.I don’t think you get it that hours have passed between the time of the defeat and her battle with Jacob, that is plenty of time to regain her magic power, she can’t regain MP when fighting, that defeats the point of recovery. plus Mirajane official stated that this is using her full power when no one is watching, https://v2.mangapark.net/manga/fairy-tail/i1628701/13 this means that either her SS form is her strongest or any form can be the strongest just how much energy she puts in to her effort. With Brandish, it is the same thing with Jacob as he has his eyes closed he can’t really focus. You do realized that DiMaria used her Time Stop right! That basically counters stats buffing, and still survived as she would use her magic to shrink the wound, plus Brandish was holding back against Lucy, not the same thing, he is stronger than Makarov’s spells which caused massive catastrophes so his durability is already above that. That makes no sense, that is the same reasoning Axiomus used saying FH Zeref is less than building level strong against Savage Flames Natsu. MPF is what shows any move a reflection of one’s strength regardless of the type.
No it is not. The Alegria form vs Juliet and Heine made it clear that there is a strenght hierarchy between Satan Soul forms. I don't get why that's so hard to understand. Jacob had a whole ass day to recover power while Mirajane had a measly few hours. And no she doesn't wtf. Send me PROOF of an incident where Mirajane fought without using SS forms. She was literally exhausted by two back to back battles. What is so hard to understand? And Spriggans are extremely strong so why would MIRAJANE decide to only face them using her BASE form?! You realize how much of an insult to Mirajane's intelligence your argument sounds like?I am arguing that her power as to her statement is full when she used base SS form, and the Spriggan was nerfed so they were fighting evenly, she recovered magic power back then especially after hours have passed, she even fights in her normal form too at times, As the comment Erza made, it is to her knowledge, you do realized that Juliet and Heine are basically magic directly from Irene so they are stronger than most, there is no statement that is was full power base form, considering she used “Other form” in the same fight earlier and struggled still https://v2.mangapark.net/manga/fairy-tail/i1628699/10, because even then it still hampered his stats since he cannot focus on using his powers, she even said she would play dead for Lucy, meaning that she was indeed holding back, there is no other meaning besides that, you do realize that magic power can be represented in one’s physical conditions right? You cannot judge one’s feats by size alone, where as skill and level of power hold more weight to them.
Because he's stronger than her in pretty much every aspect. We saw this when they fought, he kicked the shit out of her without any difficulty..How does Jacob even overwhelm her in normal combat though? Lucy could keep up with a FULL powered Satan Soul Mirajane who had assistance from Elfman. This Mirajane was much stronger than Alvarez Mirajane.
While Jacob could only match a VERY low on MP base Mirajane who was heavily weakend mind you and proceeded to get demolished by her once she went Satan Soul Form.
That was literally a Lucy from 1 year ago dude. That's like comparing Alvarez Mira to current Mira and strength.Because he's stronger than her in pretty much every aspect. We saw this when they fought, he kicked the shit out of her without any difficulty..
As for Mira, Lucy kept up with casual, screwing around Mirajane who was more worried about playing BDSM than she was about beating Lucy. The idea that Lucy is a match for Mirajane and Elfman combined is ludicrous, she's not even a match for Elfman alone. It's like saying that because Sting and Rogue survived their fight against the GMG dragons, that they're actually a match for them. No, they survived because the dragons were fucking around.
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Sure, sure, the gap between her and Jacob was huge though. It's like saying that after the GMG timeskip Wendy had risen to Zancrow level or something.That was literally a Lucy from 1 year ago dude. That's like comparing Alvarez Mira to current Mira and strength.
It's clear here that Mirajane was literally taking them HEAD on. Clearly only wanting to do that bondage stuff after she defeated them. Plus you could very easily argue that she was doing that to restrain them.
Dude wtf. I never said she was a match for Mirajane. I simply said that she could take hits from Mirajane way better than Jacob. Specifically point out where I said she was a match for Mirajane omfg.
You are literally strawman incarnate.
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Apologies for my outburst, I despise being strawmanned above all else.
I'll write my counterargument later.
It literally showed that Alegria could easily destroy the crap out of Juliet and Heine who were easily running circles around base Satan Soul Mirajane. And? They both had fought any different opponents with Mirajane fighting the stronger of the two.Alegria is basically the culmination of all the Demons in Tartaros it only showed that J & H are stronger than the average wizard, and few hours are enough to recover magic power of a significant proportions like with Tenrou Island for Natsu and his team, https://v2.mangapark.net/manga/fairy-tail/i1628632/4,
And here is her fighting without SS: https://v2.mangapark.net/manga/fairy-tail/i1628607/3, correction, one battle, her torture doesn’t really count as she didn’t even use magic then, and if you could call it torture, more like loss of clothing. Again, she can put amount of magic power to her attacks, it has been years since they duked it out since things with Lisanna happened, so it would be vague in memory. And yet Gray was nearly beaten by a Mira that was literally stated to be tired and weakened, and not just assumed with Jacob vs Mira. And that only proves my point that Mira verse Jacob was her holding back too since others can see her so that means her base SS is her not holding back. What does Touka even have to do with this!?! I assume you meant with Brandi, Dimaria said that in chapter 501. Even humoring what is likely miscommunication, even if it was mind control, FT members are still in character for major percentage of the majority of the time. And yet her wounds have healed due to Brandish’s magic, as her other injuries are too minor to be considered, and Jacob just recovered as well, well Jacob is does not have fictional blind capabilities, his defenses are lowered since he can’t focus well with his eyes closed, he has magic to see the unseen but that still requires concentration.