Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

[WoWfan]

Whatever is equivalent to dying which is clearly the case, don’t over think it, well it did, so get over it, death is abstract thus it can’t give physical stress to a material object, she did not fix, she reversed time to the point before it “died”, she can cause life to be restored in plants or cause them to sprout so yes she can, Ankseram’s black magic afflicts an object with negative affects, not simply paint it black, that’s silly. Yet they break easily and he has not time to reverse it, if he is alive then that means none of the Natsu’s he encountered are weak, and they are based on his knowledge, so his experience differs, remember Natsu considered Happy strong too, and Zeref is crazy afterall, no, I am telling you that debris like that is nothing, or lack there of since the pillar above removed most of it anyway. It does not show to be fire, that is your assumption based on visuals alone which contradict how Fire is shaped by Natsu, now you are saying that it is multiple colors? Changing your story now? Inches which came from meters above, that all in the same ground of the ceiling, that is how eyesight works, they are not far off in the distnance, that why they focus on points of interest even other panels previously show a different perspective view despite big the room is when they make the walls feel small in comparaison, so you can’t use those walls for comparison either as they would farther/closer than what appear.

 

[sharkai]

There should be nothing above Natsu. Aldoron is huge, and he’s in his body not some cave. The blast went directly up and out.


Also, why are people debating what they said the Phoenix could do? It was clearly stated, the comparison clearly made, and at this point Mashima has quelled all conversations of canonicity as he has actively mentioned each movie in the manga itself, and his anime only arcs. Like thought this was solved.

This is incorrect too. There would absolutely be walls still around Natsu's area. They were fighting inside of Aldoron. The area above Natsu would be destroyed, and it was, but the area around Natsu was still mostly intact until Aldoron crumbled fully away.

Sure, once it reached a certain size it stopped expanding, like a final flash or something, Demolition Fist does this too

Spoiler

Fairy Tail: 100 Years Quest :: Chapter 78 :: SorcererWeekly

the pics show its cylindrical here.
how much distance must the attack travel before it stop expanding
because i thought the attack expanded only for a 2 or 3 yards.

which should leave natsu in a a different terrain. with nothing taller than, i guess couple of yards

 

[GL_Nova]

Yes, it is.

Ultear spammed orbs at Zeref. Time magic is useless against death wave anyways.

Is it above planet level or not? Because that's where you have base Zeref at.

We see the vines in the ceiling, and we see the vines on the wall. They look basically the same. The vines that you think is the ceiling look more like the image of the wall than the image of the ceiling tbh. Anyways, none of this matters. The debris falling down is falling from a place higher than what the frame shows. That tells us that the actual ceiling is higher than what we can see, and that those vines are the wall.

Aldoron's beams of magic is not fire. The things on his horns could be anything, but whatever. The anime will make it clear that the pillar of fire is Natsu's.

Lol they didn't even know Natsu got sucked down to Aldoron's chamber. They literally didn't even know Natsu was fighting Aldoron. The only reason they even thought about Natsu was because they could see the pillar of fire coming out of Aldoron.

--- Double Post Merged, Sep 28, 2021, Original Post Date: Sep 27, 2021 ---

Even if the FT planet is many times larger than our Earth, and Fiore is the size of a continent, nobody in Fairy Tail is even close to surface wiping or planetary. They would have to be striking with enough force to destroy a planet, or mass equivalent to that of a planet. That simply doesn't happen in FT. We see the effects that attacks have on the environment, and that takes precedence over any sort of scaling or calculations. Natsu at his best can maybe destroy a few mountains with his best attacks.

If you try to pass off Natsu as planetary in a debate against other works of fiction, nobody is going to take you seriously. The only thing that can maybe be passed off as continental is August's ars magia. That's assuming we believe the statement about it vaporizing Fiore. Stuff like Irene's universe one would just be considered unquantifiable, and not representative of striking strength, and rightfully so.

Bro. This ain’t a debate point, it’s already happened. Earthland is much bigger than Earth based on distances given. They’ve been accepted as continental and higher since Alvarez arc. Irene manipulated the entire country with minimal preparation, and held it while spamming other country lvl attacks. The continental ship has sailed, and the evaporation feat actually makes the argument August is Multi with his top magic. An still continental even if you lowball Fiore size. Unless you provide something to disprove his statement other than speculation, like actual evidence he can’t. The S class has been top Spriggan since then as well. With the top 3 being arguably the same tier as August & Irene at worst now. An there have already been several instances of stating things are planetary threats, (Phoenix, Zeref, Acno) it was the feats that were lacking. As mentioned, Selene’s feats fit the bill. With that to support, especially with it being a casual flex in her human form, and with the recent revelations about her dragon form and Suzuku’s performance the number only grows. (All BSDK, George, other DG, Ignia and King lvl dragons.) Anybody who beats one, and depending on Irene’s posthumous feats it’ll bump August as well. Selene literally leveled up the entire verse with those feats.

 

[Seven777]

if so, then it is not really comparable here though.

I don't see why not. Final Flash starts small, gets big. Purgatory starts small, gets big. That said, it's not like I need the final flash comparison, the demolition fist comparison is much more relevant.

the pics show its cylindrical here.
how much distance must the attack travel before it stop expanding
because i thought the attack expanded only for a 2 or 3 yards.

which should leave natsu in a a different terrain. with nothing taller than, i guess couple of yards

I know, that was my point. Demo Fist goes cylindrical too, but it starts out the size of Natsu's fist, then his body, then double his body, then triple, until it gets big enough to form that cylinder.

As for Demo fist, dunno, might've stopped expanding a few yards, Purgatory likely takes considerably more due to it's massive size. It should take quite a bit of time to reach the max size of that colossal cylinder

 

[WoWfan]

It actually is important to note if it is capable of doing that or not, especially where are firing at.

 

[grey matter]

What previous two pages? I saw those and they are not correct in what you claim them to be as they are two small at display and off angle, as I linked the other pages that proves that that giant pillar is not from Natsu as there is still Ceiling above them.

i will post the link one more time because you both seemed to have either missed it or ignored it (first panel to the right)
Fairy Tail: 100 Years Quest :: Chapter 62 :: SorcererWeekly

The previous two pages I linked.

You showed the pillar after Natsu's fire supposed stopped.

But the fact is, the pillar was there even before Natsu's fire had stopped. The last pillar could've just been the aftermath of the fire after Natsu stopped. You do realize it takes time from source to destination, as well as time for fire to subside?

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Also, why are we still pretending like there are planet level character in FT lmao, or even surface wipers. The strongest characters in the series, Acno (post and pre rift) was continental at best

I'll believe "planetary" when it happens.

FH Zeref's strongest attack was building level lmao, so it's not even like AOE matters much in the grand scheme of PLs. Sure having high AOE does imply you are somewhat strong, but having low AOE doesn't mean imply you're weak.
FH Zeref (and even base Zeref) is the strongest human mage in the main series (bar DF Natsu maybe), and he has pathetic AOE. Suzaku and Erza has pretty much no AOE as well

 

[WoWfan]

to be honest, I don’t even remember what your previous post was, and it was likely covered by the other person anyway so, the pillar was from main body Aldoron’s death, if Natsuis stopped, been so with the heat energy pillar not escalate, source to destination only works when one knows the distance between the two in the first place, not in this case since the fire has magical properties as well. Acno is far above continental, since the other DGs possess Multi-Continental feats and scaling to characters who displayed similar feats, and Acno ate an entire dimension of magic. FH‘s Zeref’s strongest attack would be above Multi-Continent Level, and his attack managed to match that of Natsu’s Savage Flames fist briefly, there is more to AoE, there is also the fact how much heat he generates into the energy for his attack via Black Body Radiation calculation.

 

[Lucy>Wendy&Elfman]

Rank these characters from strongest to weakest.

Natsu, Lucy, Gray, Erza, Wendy, Gajeel, Juvia, Laxus, Mirajane, Gildarts, Jellal, Sting, Rogue, Yukino, Minerva, Kagura, Lyon, Chelia, Elfman, Lisanna, Levy, Freed, Brandish, Cana, Meredy.

 

[Kenneth Latorre]

lol, haven’t seen someone try so hard to make a point, yet fail so hard cause they are blatantly wrong: it’s quite sad.

go easy on the WoW user guys lol.

 

[WoWfan]

Don't really see why would need that when you consider that person wrong. lol

 

[Seven777]

Top tier: Natsu>Gildarts>Laxus>Erza
High tier: Jellal>Mirajane>Gray>Gajeel>Sting>Brandish
Mid tier: Elfman>Rogue>Kagura>Minerva
Low tier: Lucy>Wendy>Juvia>Cana>Freed>Meredy>Levy>Lisanna>Yukino

 

[Lucy>Wendy&Elfman]

Top tier: Natsu>Gildarts>Laxus>Erza
High tier: Jellal>Mirajane>Gray>Gajeel>Sting>Brandish
Mid tier: Elfman>Rogue>Kagura>Minerva
Low tier: Lucy>Wendy>Juvia>Cana>Freed>Meredy>Levy>Lisanna>Yukino

I mostly agree with your ranking but Yukino > Lisanna and Jellal ≈ Laxus IMO.

 

[Steven]

Sting>Brandish

 

[Lucy>Wendy&Elfman]

I think he is probably stronger than her with White Shadow Dragon Mode.

 

[WoWfan]

If it is standard Sting, unknown, maybe lose.

 

[grey matter]

Rank these characters from strongest to weakest.

Natsu, Lucy, Gray, Erza, Wendy, Gajeel, Juvia, Laxus, Mirajane, Gildarts, Jellal, Sting, Rogue, Yukino, Minerva, Kagura, Lyon, Chelia, Elfman, Lisanna, Levy, Freed, Brandish, Cana, Meredy.

Tier 0
1. DF Natsu

Tier 1
2. Gildarts

Tier 2
3. FDKM Natsu
4/5. Laxus
5/4. Jellal
6. Erza

Tier 3
7. Mira
8/9. Gajeel
9/8. Gray

Tier 4
10. Sting (dual elements)
11. Brandish
12. Elfman

Tier 5
13. Lyon (scaling to base Gray)
14. Rouge
15/16. Minerva
16/15. Kagura

Tier 6
17. Lucy
18. Wendy
19. Freed
20. Cana

Tier 7
21/22. Juvia
22/21. Meredy
23. Lissana
24. Chelia


Tier 8
25. Yukino
26. Levy

 

[WoWfan]

would say SF Natsu would be considered the strongest apart from Acnologia SBT

 

[grey matter]

would say SF Natsu would be considered the strongest apart from Acnologia SBT

Savage Flames is POF and situational, he can't use it willingly and hence not considered.

Anyway, pretty sure Ignia DF Natsu is above SF Natsu

 

[WoWfan]

@grey matter not really situational, more as a limit to his immunity.

Ignia's fire is more hax while Natsu's SF is pure heat which the later has more energy to it.

 

[Lucy>Wendy&Elfman]

Tier 0
1. DF Natsu

Tier 1
2. Gildarts

Tier 2
3. FDKM Natsu
4/5. Laxus
5/4. Jellal
6. Erza

Tier 3
7. Mira
8/9. Gajeel
9/8. Gray

Tier 4
10. Sting (dual elements)
11. Brandish
12. Elfman

Tier 5
13. Lyon (scaling to base Gray)
14. Rouge
15/16. Minerva
16/15. Kagura

Tier 6
17. Lucy
18. Wendy
19. Freed
20. Cana

Tier 7
21/22. Juvia
22/21. Meredy
23. Lissana
24. Chelia


Tier 8
25. Yukino
26. Levy

My list (your list is perfect I have some issues with it):

OP Tier
1. Natsu (Dragon Force)

God Tier
2. Gildarts

Top Tier
3. Natsu (Fire Dragon King Mode)
4/5. Laxus (Red Lightning Dragon Mode)
5/4. Jellal
6. Erza (Nakagami Armor)

High Tier
7. Mirajane (Satan Soul: Alegria)
8. Gray (Devil Slayer)
9. Gajeel (Iron Shadow Dragon Mode, equal to Lightning Fire Dragon Mode Natsu)

Mid Tier
10. Sting (White Shadow Dragon Mode, might be higher)
11. Brandish
12/13. Rogue (Dragon Force)
13/12. Lyon (Base Gray lvl)
14. Kagura
15. Minerva

Low Tier
16. Lucy (Star Dress Mix)
17. Wendy (Dragon Force)
18. Juvia (she, Lucy & Wendy grown a lot, especially the last two, so they might be on Tier 4).
19. Elfman (rlly hard to rank, might be higher than girls)

Fodder Tier
20. Freed
21. Cana
22. Meredy
23. Chelia
24. Yukino
25. Lisanna (Animal Soul: Naruto Plagiarism )
26. Levy