One Piece Power Level Discussion Thread

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3. Zoro > Luffy
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5. Is Smoker a top 30 character?
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7. Law having CoC currently.
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[Fallou]

Isn't Coby vice-admiral by now? I would say VAs are more or less Yonko officer level (Tobbi Roppo or the weakest BMs children).
But then again there could be big disparities between the VAs. The strongest of them could very well be YC level, while the weakest would be low TR.
There can always be exceptions: Garp is a VA, so....
It's really mostly guesswork atm

 

[Pirate Queen]

Isn't Coby vice-admiral by now? I would say VAs are more or less Yonko officer level (Tobbi Roppo or the weakest BMs children).
But then again there could be big disparities between the VAs. The strongest of them could very well be YC level, while the weakest would be low TR.
There can always be exceptions: Garp is a VA, so....
It's really mostly guesswork atm

There was an error that referred to him as a Vice Admiral but he is actually a Marine Captain.

And like you said Vice Admiral power levels have huge discrepancies in strength. Luffy was one shooting them in Marineford like fodder and then you have VA's like John Giant, Strawberry, Doberman, and Tsuru who are VERY capable

 

[A$APBog]

There was an error that referred to him as a Vice Admiral but he is actually a Marine Captain.

And like you said Vice Admiral power levels have huge discrepancies in strength. Luffy was one shooting them in Marineford like fodder and then you have VA's like John Giant, Strawberry, Doberman, and Tsuru who are VERY capable

Or even Garp.

Nonetheless, to be honest Coby is also evolving at a frightening pace. Learning CoO innately, surely having the CoA (seeing how he catch that missiles) and his other feats.

I would not be shocked to learn that Coby could actually have the level of a Rear or Vice Admiral but isn't promoted due to lack of achievements/being too green/Akainu.

However, after only 2 years of training it's impressive

 

[Pirate Queen]

Or even Garp.

Nonetheless, to be honest Coby is also evolving at a frightening pace. Learning CoO innately, surely having the CoA (seeing how he catch that missiles) and his other feats.

I would not be shocked to learn that Coby could actually have the level of a Rear or Vice Admiral but isn't promoted due to lack of achievements/being too green/Akainu.

However, after only 2 years of training it's impressive

But that's just basic CoO and CoA? And he didn't show anything above average in my opinion.

2 years of training and the only 2 things he's shown is Geppo, Soru, and caught a rocket (which we doing know if it's a CoA feat). So he has a decent speed feat, but blitzing a rocket isn't making him comparable to the likes of Law or a Yonko Commander. Which is what was stated.

I'll give him he has promise and is going to be a boss marine, but not now.

 

[Lord Traffy Law]

There was an error that referred to him as a Vice Admiral but he is actually a Marine Captain.

And like you said Vice Admiral power levels have huge discrepancies in strength. Luffy was one shooting them in Marineford like fodder and then you have VA's like John Giant, Strawberry, Doberman, and Tsuru who are VERY capable

NAh luffy didn’t one shot any vice admirals , whitebeard was , luffy did one shot some coated and decently ranked marines but he didn’t do anything to the vices

 

[Pirate Queen]

NAh luffy didn’t one shot any vice admirals , whitebeard was , luffy did one shot some coated and decently ranked marines but he didn’t do anything to the vices

My bad. I misremembered.

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Actually I went back. Luffy one shot a member of the Marines Giant Division which are Captain rank + so I was not too far off.

He did face several Vice Admirals back to back but was overwhelmed and then wrecked by Kizaru's laser.

 

[Fox666]

Considering Koby's reaction to Kyros...

No, he's not commander level

 

[Pirate Queen]

Considering Koby's reaction to Kyros...

No, he's not commander level

Thank you

 

[M3J]

Considering Koby's reaction to Kyros...

No, he's not commander level

Just because he acknowledged someone else's strength? That doesn't make sense.

 

[Lord Traffy Law]

Considering Koby's reaction to Kyros...

No, he's not commander level

Ehhhh coby is just humble but I agree he’s not commander level , also Kyros was actually really really strong , and stronger at coby at that point
I just think that’s an unfair
Luffy has called guys who are almost incomparable to him when he gets serious strong

 

[XXGenesis]

Kyros is strong…..wth
Zoro basically said the same thing about Sai…..
Coby’s rank doesn’t matter much.
He’s NW lv tier; Awakened Haki Pre TS & already knew Soru. Post TS he’s a member of S.W.O.R.D, an Elite Marine unit. His feats have been basic so far, his time to shine will come.

@Pirate Queen
Baiting/Taunting without an exchange is trolling;Your known for, this at the time I wasn’t in the mood, nor am I ever rlly I just have patience at times. But for what? when you troll 1st then discuss, or troll a subject as others chime in, maybe agree if someone has a similar opinion…it’s old n tiring now

 

[Pirate Queen]

Kyros is strong…..wth
Zoro basically said the same thing about Sai…..
Coby’s rank doesn’t matter much.
He’s NW lv tier; Awakened Haki Pre TS & already knew Soru. Post TS he’s a member of S.W.O.R.D, an Elite Marine unit. His feats have been basic so far, his time to shine will come.

@Pirate Queen
Baiting/Taunting without an exchange is trolling;Your known for, this at the time I wasn’t in the mood, nor am I ever rlly I just have patience at times. But for what? when you troll 1st then discuss, or troll a subject as others chime in, maybe agree if someone has a similar opinion…it’s old n tiring now

I didn't taunt you. I said Coby has no distinguishable feats and you went on a tangent saying I was a troll.

Coby has no feats putting him anywhere near your sayin

Okay... but what are you basing any of this on?

He's got soru and he's stopped a rocket. There isn't anything to go on to say he is strong enough to fight an officer or low commander

He doesn't have a single combat feat making worthy of fighting a New World threat.

Where is the fucking troll?

Maybe back up your claims of him being comparable to Law or being a Low Yonko Commander level. I asked you to back up your claim and you got butthurt

 

[Crimson Ice]

He made news headlines with Law. So he’s at least somewhat comparable to Law.

Pirate Queen, your starting to annoy me with your un solicited trolling. It’s tired bro.

This is a Power level thread. Who made the rules that said we can’t have fun playing guessing games…

sheesh grow up, you don’t even troll wel you just look like an asshole who gravitates to any controversial subject to make fun of it or someone. Relax buddy

WHAT? He's not comparable to Law. Coby literally just saved civilians during the Rocky Port incident, I have no idea how you jumped to the conclusion he's equal to Law.

 

[A$APBog]

But that's just basic CoO and CoA? And he didn't show anything above average in my opinion.

2 years of training and the only 2 things he's shown is Geppo, Soru, and caught a rocket (which we doing know if it's a CoA feat). So he has a decent speed feat, but blitzing a rocket isn't making him comparable to the likes of Law or a Yonko Commander. Which is what was stated.

I'll give him he has promise and is going to be a boss marine, but not now.

I mean, he did not fight anyone till now. We did not really got the opportunity to see what he was truly capable of

 

[Pirate Queen]

I mean, he did not fight anyone till now. We did not really got the opportunity to see what he was truly capable of

I totally agree with you. I was addressing someone comparing him to Law and Yonko Commanders.

My stance is that he hasn't shown anything to make those comparisons and was called a troll for it.

I am not trolling.

He blitzed a rocket underwater and caught it. That is the extent of his skills that we know of. You can't base him being a Yonko Commander based on that. That is all I'm saying.

 

[Lord Traffy Law]

He made news headlines with Law. So he’s at least somewhat comparable to Law.

Pirate Queen, your starting to annoy me with your un solicited trolling. It’s tired bro.

This is a Power level thread. Who made the rules that said we can’t have fun playing guessing games…

sheesh grow up, you don’t even troll wel you just look like an asshole who gravitates to any controversial subject to make fun of it or someone. Relax buddy

WHAT? He's not comparable to Law. Coby literally just saved civilians during the Rocky Port incident, I have no idea how you jumped to the conclusion he's equal to Law.

Agreed luffy was a headliner at marineford , with dudes like crocodile , doffy , Mihawk , boa , the admirals , Marco , whitebeard , garp , Sengoku and the Blackbeard pirates , he still wasn’t anything compared to them
Coby was involved but another thing is law isn’t an evil dude , we gotta take what happened with a. Grain of salt

 

[Fox666]

Just because he acknowledged someone else's strength? That doesn't make sense.

It looks to me that he was impressed at Kyros' Haki.

That's not a surprise at all. Koby was never a match for Luffy or Zoro pre-timeskip, and still isn't.

I totally agree with you. I was addressing someone comparing him to Law and Yonko Commanders.

My stance is that he hasn't shown anything to make those comparisons and was called a troll for it.

I am not trolling.

He blitzed a rocket underwater and caught it. That is the extent of his skills that we know of. You can't base him being a Yonko Commander based on that. That is all I'm saying.

The rocket thing is something Luffy could have pulled pre-timeskip...

A commander-level fighter could easily take down a fleet of submarines.

 

[McNuss]

And like you said Vice Admiral power levels have huge discrepancies in strength. Luffy was one shooting them in Marineford like fodder and then you have VA's like John Giant, Strawberry, Doberman, and Tsuru who are VERY capable

This is such a fan myth, but the giant marine soldier Luffy one-shotted has never been ranked, let alone named.

Fact is, Momonga and Dalmatian kicked his ass, and not the other way round.

There is no way Pre-Skip Luffy could have one-shotted a Vice Admiral. I think even prior to Wano this would have been unthinkable without G4 with anyone but Maynard.

I think Vice Admirals have been looked down for a long time, but now after seeing both the crews of Kaido and Big Mom in full extent, I think everyone has to readjust this perception.

Despite their early introductions honestly Vergo and Smoker seem way more capable than the majority of high ranked Yonko Executives.

Prior to the timeskip, we had the "scary" looking Whitebeard Pirates and badass Red Hair Pirates vs rather normal looking dudes in suits. Now we have someone talking out of a chicken's ass being high tier in a Yonko Crew. VAs are top tier, like I said all the time.

 

[Pirate Queen]

My bad. I misremembered.

--- Double Post Merged, Oct 17, 2021, Original Post Date: Oct 17, 2021 ---

Actually I went back. Luffy one shot a member of the Marines Giant Division which are Captain rank + so I was not too far off.

He did face several Vice Admirals back to back but was overwhelmed and then wrecked by Kizaru's laser.

@McNuss Yeah I addressed my mistake already. I thought the Giant Division were VICE Admirals

 

[albertwv]

I rank the VAs pretty high, but I mean the MF HQ VAs not Smoker or Maynard, they are junior VAs and are weaker than the veteran VAs. As we've seen how Vergo > Smoker and how weak Maynard was.
The VAs could tie with the Flying 6 or Oven/Daifuku/ maybe Perospero. I wish Oda showed more of the VAs in a more competent role in the NW.
At the beginning of the Timeskip I saw G2 Luffy and Zolo above the veteran VAs with difficulty and Sanji right below as we saw how he fared versus Vergo. Now Sanji is above the veteran VAs.

Jozu is not YC3 he is YC2. People think he is weaker than Doffy because DD was able to trap him with the strings but I dont think thats the case. I see Jozu as being the strongest YC2. Oda shouldve shown more of him Post TS.

Also Post TS Lucci should be around veteran VA level or higher.