Chapter Tower of God Chapter 514 Spoilers & Discussion

The one waiting is...

  • The Lo Po Bia Head

    Votes: 44 53.7%
  • Adori

    Votes: 4 4.9%
  • Another Lo Po Bia

    Votes: 12 14.6%
  • Another Family Head

    Votes: 5 6.1%
  • Some strong Shinheuh

    Votes: 4 4.9%
  • Rachel

    Votes: 1 1.2%
  • Yama's dad

    Votes: 2 2.4%
  • Maschenny

    Votes: 6 7.3%
  • Someone else

    Votes: 4 4.9%

  • Total voters
    82
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Jyu viole grace

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English translated chapter ----
I know it's written chapter 513 but it's chapter 514,chack it out
 

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SIU is glowing up Baam too much😂 out of context, yeah. I know a lot of y'all love to see Baam getting too powerful but don't you think it's going sideways a lot? Baam is getting A LOT of power in a short time. And that comes at the cost of us not being able to glimpse his previous powers. Like, when was the last time baam used the shinsoo orb cannons? He hasn't used them after the hidden floor and the battle in the final station arc at ALL. We haven't seen much of his transformation power or the Black March either.
We would get to see those power of him in extreme situation
 

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Why not? The guy has power to become high ranker in months again. Outside of an irregular white and his spell are the most busted tool FUG has.

Abelda was able to put Hoaquin in his place. Don’t see why it’s be any diff with Vicente
The risk runs that Hoaquin comes back and we are back to square one with him attacking Baam and being an asshole.

No one stopped him leading up to him confronting Baam - it took the power of all Baam had (lol) plus the ancient spear AND firefish to get that personality to lose grip enough for White to change drivers.
 

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Why spell user? IIRC only their sister was good at this. Vicente was better at defense and Hoaqin at offense.
Vincente is primarily a spell user according to the new chapter, seen with spell books and speaking of it himself. Although moving back to the hell train arc Vincente is also a great swordsman, commended by Hoaquin himself, but yeah, not very offensive. But I believe the team needs mostly offensive strength for now that they're just pushing forward, although what position he would take would be an interesting debate till SIU reveals him😂💀
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I think we shouldn’t jump to conclusions and assume that SIU is already moving on and going to the next part of the nest. Yama and Yasratcha will definitely be finished on screen, it’s too big to be sidelined. For Lyborick vs Kallavan, I see a possible situation of it being shown as a flashback with Lyborick beating Kallavan and appearing to stop the main crew from rescuing Jinsung. Now for my own personal opinions about Bam, I find him very likeable. It’s a fresh break from standard shounen mc’s like wangnan who are overly nice, no faults, want to be king or what not and funny and weak (but with a secret heritage) all these shenanigans. Bam is different, and whether you like that different is up to you.

Plus I Don’t really know why some of y’all think SIU hates Bam when he’s the main character that SIU’s plot revolves around. Why would an author write or develop a plot around a character he does not like ? If that’s the case, then it makes for a unsustainable story unless there are radical changes which SIU probably wouldn’t risk considering the complaints of Bam come from the global audience rather than the Korean. Furthermore, the Koreans love Bam because they love OP mcs (Sung Jin Woo from Solo Leveling for eg), so I think he’s staying. However SIU is probably taking Bam out of action for a while. The tower of god youtubers have been saying that the story is too focused on Bam, so he probably predicted such a reaction might occur. But don’t get your hopes up, he ain’t staying out of commission for that long lol. Im actually interested in what you guys wish Bam was like instead ? If you hate him so much, then there must be dozen of ways to improve his character.
THIS. I WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE WITH YOU AND DAMN I WAS REALLY HOPING SOMEONE ELSE WOULD FINALLY BRING THIS UP.
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We would get to see those power of him in extreme situation
Let's hope so
 

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It’s just me or siu changed white hoagin backstory again just to make Vicente take the main role and be a companion ? Because now Vicente was reading books to master spells and apparently he could even be the one to control the demon? How convenient.
Also where are all the people who were defending khun and rak power up saying they not ranker level ? Here they are teaming up with ascensio, aria who are both HR.

Edit: btw baam is off like always. So all the training he endured 2 years was for him to pass out after a fight and receiving white bug power up when he had the sun but bugs AA and Rak can take HR bug power.
and white aka vicente who is also unharmed and seems okay, baam normally should keep hi conscience and even better he should have been overboarding with energy now but instead sui make him sleep lol what khun and rak think that they can do by themeselves going to jinsung lol they are lukcy they got HR companions lol and they even complaning about that... and also no comment from aria about the fight and about baam saving her life and reviving her... and Mash in the end seems interested in baam to fight him nothing else lol
 

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fact is Baam is mentally weak .
THIS. NOTHING HAS CHANGED. LIKE. Baam has been mentally weak ever since the beginning of the series. The entire hardcore training in the FUG didn't make him any stronger mentally, it's just that they kept exploiting his fears so for a moment he seemed level headed and charismatic(maybe lol) but then, after the entire chain reaction went off he never got time to work on himself, mentally, all he did was try to become stronger while never trying to eliminate his fears, he's grown a lil more mature, seeing that casualties can and will definitely arise, I hope that while SIU is glowing up Baam's physical prowess he would also give him a stronger mentality. Or that kid would remain a kid forever.
 

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SIU is glowing up Baam too much😂 out of context, yeah. I know a lot of y'all love to see Baam getting too powerful but don't you think it's going sideways a lot? Baam is getting A LOT of power in a short time. And that comes at the cost of us not being able to glimpse his previous powers. Like, when was the last time baam used the shinsoo orb cannons? He hasn't used them after the hidden floor and the battle in the final station arc at ALL. We haven't seen much of his transformation power or the Black March either.
So,what is the problem to show op mc at battles,like see enemy-easy kill enemy without hardships?
Even at Kaiser arc it was near death battle.I think,it is one of the biggest problems.Every enemy must be hard and mc must overcome.
 

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Khuns are... tops?

Er, I mean the best!

I mean, hey, look over there!
I LAUGHED WAY TOO HARD LMFAOOO💀💀💀💀💀💀
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As i remember,Khun can restore somebody with firefish.So,why he didn't heal Baam.
PS:it would be much better if author delete vincente flashbacks and add full information about new powerups.We even don't know,is there new (white) demon inside Baam?
Khun already used a lot of firefish power while fortifying Baam while the final fight with White. There's a cost and a sidd effect to using that power, as seen LONG back. (I don't remember tho) so he apparently couldn't use it again. And also about the white being a demon inside Baam, it's already shown that Hoaquin is suppressed inside the body of Vincente now.
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Now you're making me imagine what Mas would be like.... :doge
Mas would be Maso...?😂💀💀💀
 

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The risk runs that Hoaquin comes back and we are back to square one with him attacking Baam and being an asshole.
This was the final chance for Hoaquin to mess around with Baam. He will never ever be able to reach Baam after this point. The only ones he poses a threat to are the regular friends Baam has.
 

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THIS. NOTHING HAS CHANGED. LIKE. Baam has been mentally weak ever since the beginning of the series. The entire hardcore training in the FUG didn't make him any stronger mentally, it's just that they kept exploiting his fears so for a moment he seemed level headed and charismatic(maybe lol) but then, after the entire chain reaction went off he never got time to work on himself, mentally, all he did was try to become stronger while never trying to eliminate his fears, he's grown a lil more mature, seeing that casualties can and will definitely arise, I hope that while SIU is glowing up Baam's physical prowess he would also give him a stronger mentality. Or that kid would remain a kid forever.
I mean I am pretty sure Bams main character flaw is his mental weakness (which is good because characters do need flaws) and by mental weakness I mean not being able to handle his emotions very well.

If he didn’t have this weakness/flaw then wouldn’t he just be a Mary Sue?
 

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The risk runs that Hoaquin comes back and we are back to square one with him attacking Baam and being an asshole.
This was the final chance for Hoaquin to mess around with Baam. He will never ever be able to reach Baam after this point. The only ones he poses a threat to are the regular friends Baam has.
I take that back. I don't trust Siu anymore.
 

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So is Bam unconscious just to wake up at the moment his team start to lose and kick some ass,be badass with his new power and show everyone how crazy powerful irregulars are? A man can hope...
No, he's going to wake up and get his ass handed to him again to show he has a long way to go.
 

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My guess is Baam will have a spellcaster now. He already has a healer. His deal is he can BREAK spells, but not cast them?
I wish we would know more about spells. They are more interesting to me than shinsu-based attacks and have more variety. They are like the power of gods. Bam is the son of a genius sorcerer, maybe he learns to use spells in the future.
 

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I mean I am pretty sure Bams main character flaw is his mental weakness (which is good because characters do need flaws) and by mental weakness I mean not being able to handle his emotions very well.

If he didn’t have this weakness/flaw then wouldn’t he just be a Mary Sue?
Not op create Mary Sue but the author's blind love for the character.Even now Baam is more Mary Sue character because of plot armor/moving higher without walking on corpses,difficult decisions,reall dark changes.
So,it would be really good if author add wisdom and reall dark changes for Baam.
 

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What the hell does Maschenny want?!?!??

For Baam to display his skills against a FH!?!?!?!

I’m so confused.
yeah she does said that baam has to meet her expectation but is it by fighting with her Or with fh?
I don't think by fighting with fh through
Baam still has long way to go
It's really a huge power gap
 

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Pls siu do a FHLPB x Bam war,don't care about the callavan or mascheny fodders.
 

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I mean I am pretty sure Bams main character flaw is his mental weakness (which is good because characters do need flaws) and by mental weakness I mean not being able to handle his emotions very well.

If he didn’t have this weakness/flaw then wouldn’t he just be a Mary Sue?
The thing is, his mental weakness is a FATAL flaw, and that too, a very obvious one. No matter how much hate SIU has gotten from the beginning, I adore his work how he puts everything together at some point or the other, and SIU has also given very good reasons for his mental weakness. He's had a dark past and all. But what triggers me is like, (yeah I agree with you that all good characters need to have a flaw, but they keep on working on that flaw as the story progresses to overcome it) SIU literally just put the pause button on Baam's mental development since S3 started. One or two instances of growth, at max, but that's all. Even after the entire ruckus, Baam's insecurity makes him work against white ONLY when he spoke of his friends being eaten by him. That shows how he hasn't worked on it yet.
 
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