Chapter Tower of God Chapter 514 Spoilers & Discussion

The one waiting is...

  • The Lo Po Bia Head

    Votes: 44 53.7%
  • Adori

    Votes: 4 4.9%
  • Another Lo Po Bia

    Votes: 12 14.6%
  • Another Family Head

    Votes: 5 6.1%
  • Some strong Shinheuh

    Votes: 4 4.9%
  • Rachel

    Votes: 1 1.2%
  • Yama's dad

    Votes: 2 2.4%
  • Maschenny

    Votes: 6 7.3%
  • Someone else

    Votes: 4 4.9%

  • Total voters
    82
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English translated chapter ----
I know it's written chapter 513 but it's chapter 514,chack it out
 

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So I am not the only one :lmao.
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Maybe it's because we haven't seen an expert so far but Spells seem too random. And their conditions are weird it's hard for me to imagine a true Sorcerer in battle ATM. That Question Mark one for example.
Well, one of the reasons is that spells are not often learned in the tower. The best example of sorcerers we've had is Arlen till now. And that guy who used question marks was really strong compared to regulars. SIU said in the blog post that it's hard even for top regulars to fight someone who knows spells if they don't have a good understanding of spells. So spells can be used as powerful means in a fight because, at the very least, not many know how to counteract them.
I said it would be cool for Bam to use them although I'm not sure he would because the rank of spells depends on mediums. And Bam is related to the outside God, so he could take advantage of this feature. And he's almost immune to spells.
 

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Well, one of the reasons is that spells are not often learned in the tower. The best example of sorcerers we've had is Arlen till now. And that guy who used question marks was really strong compared to regulars. SIU said in the blog post that it's hard even for top regulars to fight someone who knows spells if they don't have a good understanding of spells. So spells can be used as powerful means in a fight because, at the very least, not many know how to counteract them.
I aid it would be cool for Bam to use them although I'm not sure he would because the rank of spells depends on mediums. And Bam is related to the outside God, so he could take advantage of this feature. And he's almost immune to spells.

That's what I don't like about spells. They can be random abilities strong enough to defeat someone even if you are overall weaker than them.

They can be used in a fight yes but I am not fond of their use so far. Spells are from the Tower themselves so they must still be taught, but because of Zahard they are not as popular anymore.
 

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It really can't be any more obvious spells are going to be central to White moving forward when the guy in the driver's seat is talking about them and holding spell books harder than any movie product placement that exists.

Yeah, we don't know much about spells but we're going to find out. Eventually*








* "Eventually" may or may not be measured in terms of years or even decades IRL.
 

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So my thoughts:
  • Asensio has no idea what Maschenny's plan is and is just following orders.
  • Asensio comments that the Khun Family hate being stabbed in the back.
    • Perhaps they like to do the backstabbing themselves.
      • Maschenny at least seems to be fond of backstabbing.
    • Is this foreshadowing that Asensio would backstab AA and Co?
  • Maschenny wasn't impressed by Baam defeating White.
    • Did she already have much higher expectations for Baam?
    • Is defeating Prime White something unimpressive to people of her level?
  • Maschenny seems intent on fighting Baam.
    • She wonders if he can meet her expectations.
    • This is a call back to her monologue at the start of the Nest, when she wondered what he was truly capable of.
  • The One in a High Place is Maschenny.
    • Jinsung's response to Maschenny wondering if Baam can satisfy her is a warning that Baam should not come as the person waiting for him behind the Third Wall is in too high a place for them.
      • The only person we know that fits the bill is Maschenny.
      • Neither Adori nor the Lo Po Bia Family Head are waiting for Baam behind the Third Wall.
    • The first chapter of this sub arc ends with a Maschenny and Jinsung appearance.
    • Maschenny and her designs for Baam have been slowly teased throughout the arc finally leading to this chapter.
  • Expectations for this sub arc:
    • This is probably the arc where Maschenny and Baam finally meet.
    • I expect the arc to end with a chapter that starts their interactions.
    • I think this arc is to show off/properly debut Maschenny.
    • I expect more Maschenny hype from other Elite High Rankers.
    • Perhaps we'll learn what she's truly up to, what her goal actually is, who she's working with, etc.
    • Maybe if we're lucky, we'll get some backstory as well.
 

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So my thoughts:
  • Asensio has no idea what Maschenny's plan is and is just following orders.
  • Asensio comments that the Khun Family hate being stabbed in the back.
    • Perhaps they like to do the backstabbing themselves.
      • Maschenny at least seems to be fond of backstabbing.
    • Is this foreshadowing that Asensio would backstab AA and Co?
  • Maschenny wasn't impressed by Baam defeating White.
    • Did she already have much higher expectations for Baam?
    • Is defeating Prime White something unimpressive to people of her level?
  • Maschenny seems intent on fighting Baam.
    • She wonders if he can meet her expectations.
    • This is a call back to her monologue at the start of the Nest, when she wondered what he was truly capable of.
  • The One in a High Place is Maschenny.
    • Jinsung's response to Maschenny wondering if Baam can satisfy her is a warning that Baam should not come as the person waiting for him behind the Third Wall is in too high a place for them.
      • The only person we know that fits the bill is Maschenny.
      • Neither Adori nor the Lo Po Bia Family Head are waiting for Baam behind the Third Wall.
    • The first chapter of this sub arc ends with a Maschenny and Jinsung appearance.
    • Maschenny and her designs for Baam have been slowly teased throughout the arc finally leading to this chapter.
  • Expectations for this sub arc:
    • This is probably the arc where Maschenny and Baam finally meet.
    • I expect the arc to end with a chapter that starts their interactions.
    • I think this arc is to show off/properly debut Maschenny.
    • I expect more Maschenny hype from other Elite High Rankers.
    • Perhaps we'll learn what she's truly up to, what her goal actually is, who she's working with, etc.
    • Maybe if we're lucky, we'll get some backstory as well.
We don't know if Maschenny know that bam had defeated white it's doesn't appear she has a camera pointed at bam field and i don't think Maschenny is the one jinsung is referring to he wasn't afraid at all when he fought her and doesn't seem he respect her she may be a princess of zahard but that doesn't necessary mean she is in a higher place she is just one of zahard doll Maschenny
 
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So my thoughts:
  • Asensio has no idea what Maschenny's plan is and is just following orders.
  • Asensio comments that the Khun Family hate being stabbed in the back.
    • Perhaps they like to do the backstabbing themselves.
      • Maschenny at least seems to be fond of backstabbing.
    • Is this foreshadowing that Asensio would backstab AA and Co?
  • Maschenny wasn't impressed by Baam defeating White.
    • Did she already have much higher expectations for Baam?
    • Is defeating Prime White something unimpressive to people of her level?
  • Maschenny seems intent on fighting Baam.
    • She wonders if he can meet her expectations.
    • This is a call back to her monologue at the start of the Nest, when she wondered what he was truly capable of.
  • The One in a High Place is Maschenny.
    • Jinsung's response to Maschenny wondering if Baam can satisfy her is a warning that Baam should not come as the person waiting for him behind the Third Wall is in too high a place for them.
      • The only person we know that fits the bill is Maschenny.
      • Neither Adori nor the Lo Po Bia Family Head are waiting for Baam behind the Third Wall.
    • The first chapter of this sub arc ends with a Maschenny and Jinsung appearance.
    • Maschenny and her designs for Baam have been slowly teased throughout the arc finally leading to this chapter.
  • Expectations for this sub arc:
    • This is probably the arc where Maschenny and Baam finally meet.
    • I expect the arc to end with a chapter that starts their interactions.
    • I think this arc is to show off/properly debut Maschenny.
    • I expect more Maschenny hype from other Elite High Rankers.
    • Perhaps we'll learn what she's truly up to, what her goal actually is, who she's working with, etc.
    • Maybe if we're lucky, we'll get some backstory as well.
We dont even know if mas can even beat white,

unless mas is FH tier ,i think everyone who see regular beat the shit out of top 100 high ranker would dropped their jaw
 

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Imagine thinking Jinsung is scared of Mas when he can easily defeat her, lol.
Talk about delusion.
He's clearly referring to someone else. He isn't scared of Mas now and he wasn't scared of her back then when she backstabbed him.
She's just a spoiled brat trying to act like a big shot.
 

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But how strong is White-V(icente) ? If Asensio + Aria + Khun + Rak can't defeat him in less than a minute, he must be at least around Cheonhee Ha lvl. Unless Asensio is not above div comm lvl or Aria got nerfed on top of losing her special ability. Strange i would expect Asensio to be around top 300 and White-V to be around Ranker lvl. Seems like It's just an excuse to keep him alive, and if he is still High Ranker lvl while Baam is unconscious how the hell did he lose vs Baam ? The other guys simply stopped him from beating Baam right now.
 

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It really can't be any more obvious spells are going to be central to White moving forward when the guy in the driver's seat is talking about them and holding spell books harder than any movie product placement that exists.

Yeah, we don't know much about spells but we're going to find out. Eventually*








* "Eventually" may or may not be measured in terms of years or even decades IRL.
Anna is much better at spells over Vicente tho!
 

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What the hell does Maschenny want?!?!??

For Baam to display his skills against a FH!?!?!?!

I’m so confused.
yeah she does said that baam has to meet her expectation but is it by fighting with her Or with fh?
I don't think by fighting with fh through
Baam still has long way to go
It's really a huge power gap
She wants to fight Baam.

See some of her prior dialogue:




And then this chapter:

 

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Wow, that's quite a bit of Maschenny hype. If Jinsung is hyping her that much she must be even stronger than I thought.

Anyway I liked this chapter a lot. Having Koon take the lead somehow immediately made this feel more like... ToG is supposed to feel to me somehow. The offbeat comedy bits. The more conversational stuff and the way that was paced. I enjoyed seeing more of that come back.
 

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She wants daddy bam to take her 3,000 year of virginity 🤭
Maschenny should be 5,000+, but yes, she did call Baam Daddy:



But how strong is White-V(icente) ? If Asensio + Aria + Khun + Rak can't defeat him in less than a minute, he must be at least around Cheonhee Ha lvl. Unless Asensio is not above div comm lvl or Aria got nerfed on top of losing her special ability. Strange i would expect Asensio to be around top 300 and White-V to be around Ranker lvl. Seems like It's just an excuse to keep him alive, and if he is still High Ranker lvl while Baam is unconscious how the hell did he lose vs Baam ? The other guys simply stopped him from beating Baam right now.
Asensio said that he would win "easily":


He may not have been included when AA was debating fighting Vincente.
 

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yawwwwwwnnn.
so i was right.the whole point of the fucking game are regulars.yama lost to be saved by aa and baam was losing to be saved by aa and rak.
anyway i don t give af anymore.
i hope lpb fh doesn t show up because fug side will defintely escape and it will be either a retarded explanation as to why he didn t destroy them or Baam will get an insane power boost to stand up for him.
then be demoted to ranker level in the next fight.
oh and we are about to have a new training arc .
and what s up with vincent backstory?
wasn t hoaqin the one who found the book.

as for baam anti spell power.
i think it s gift from the outside god.
because baam is like arlen mortal enemy.
her power and look don t work on him.
that s why she probably locked him and call him a monster.

i m out shieah
 

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Wow, that's quite a bit of Maschenny hype. If Jinsung is hyping her that much she must be even stronger than I thought.

Anyway I liked this chapter a lot. Having Koon take the lead somehow immediately made this feel more like... ToG is supposed to feel to me somehow. The offbeat comedy bits. The more conversational stuff and the way that was paced. I enjoyed seeing more of that come back.
Jinsung isn’t speaking about her, he talk about LPB FH .
 

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Maschenny should be 5,000+, but yes, she did call Baam Daddy:




Asensio said that he would win "easily":


He may not have been included when AA was debating fighting Vincente.
It would make more sense if Aguero couldn't count on him or Aria, even if it was just to not have any more favours to return later, but White-V seemed way too calm facing those 4 after trying to kill Baam. Aria was also way too chill after Hoaquin beheaded her
 

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Imagine thinking Jinsung is scared of Mas when he can easily defeat her, lol.
Talk about delusion.
He's clearly referring to someone else. He isn't scared of Mas now and he wasn't scared of her back then when she backstabbed him.
She's just a spoiled brat trying to act like a big shot.
Yup, like jinsung told that mas overstimated herlserf, and she doesnt knew anything about "those ancient beast" she trying to woke,

So yeah mas is strong but compared to all the monster we will see if war really happening?? Mas is just spoiled brat trying to act like a big shot
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She wants to fight Baam.

See some of her prior dialogue:




And then this chapter:

Mas act so strong trying to fought irregular, she is just coward and dare to fight baam when he still a c rank regular

If she really tho she was big shot ,she should challenge herself and fight baam when he is already a ranker (and get beaten in ome second)
 

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We don't know if Maschenny know that bam had defeated white it's doesn't appear she has a camera pointed at bam field
Yeah I don't think she knows. And technically White is still here, but with Vicente is in control.
Maschenny appears to Ha e been observing Baam's field. See her comment after releasing the Hybrider:


Furthermore, Asensio seems to have known that White was on Baam's field:
  • He tells AA that he needs to hurry and assist Baam.
    • This was after they had released the Hybrider, so White was the only antagonist remaining.
  • He's not surprised to see White on Baam's field.

It sounds like Maschenny was aware of Baam vs White. I also think it was one of her minions that blinded Baam's field from McCage.


Maschenny isn't behind the third wall but in the third wall I think
She's behind the Third Wall:



i don't think Maschenny is the one jinsung is referring to he wasn't afraid at all when he fought her and doesn't seem he respect her
That was then, he holds her in much higher regard now:
 

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Jinsung isn’t speaking about her, he talk about LPB FH .
He wasn't being specific so he could have been talking about anybody. But the context of the scene sure made it seem like he was talking about Maschenny.
 

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Interesting that Yama’s current end point is a prison! Yas did his best to warn Yama to stay away, kind of seems like Yas was trying to do the same thing Papa Baylord did for his sons long ago!!! JH’s warning was that someone great was there and that’s definitely not Maschenny! Lyb mentioned a few chapters ago that Kallavan efforts were useless and he could not stop what was coming! LPB has arrived folks!!!
 
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