Chapter Tower of God Chapter 514 Spoilers & Discussion

The one waiting is...

  • The Lo Po Bia Head

    Votes: 44 53.7%
  • Adori

    Votes: 4 4.9%
  • Another Lo Po Bia

    Votes: 12 14.6%
  • Another Family Head

    Votes: 5 6.1%
  • Some strong Shinheuh

    Votes: 4 4.9%
  • Rachel

    Votes: 1 1.2%
  • Yama's dad

    Votes: 2 2.4%
  • Maschenny

    Votes: 6 7.3%
  • Someone else

    Votes: 4 4.9%

  • Total voters
    82
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English translated chapter ----
I know it's written chapter 513 but it's chapter 514,chack it out
 

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So my thoughts:
  • Asensio has no idea what Maschenny's plan is and is just following orders.
  • Asensio comments that the Khun Family hate being stabbed in the back.
    • Perhaps they like to do the backstabbing themselves.
      • Maschenny at least seems to be fond of backstabbing.
    • Is this foreshadowing that Asensio would backstab AA and Co?
  • Maschenny wasn't impressed by Baam defeating White.
    • Did she already have much higher expectations for Baam?
    • Is defeating Prime White something unimpressive to people of her level?
  • Maschenny seems intent on fighting Baam.
    • She wonders if he can meet her expectations.
    • This is a call back to her monologue at the start of the Nest, when she wondered what he was truly capable of.
  • The One in a High Place is Maschenny.
    • Jinsung's response to Maschenny wondering if Baam can satisfy her is a warning that Baam should not come as the person waiting for him behind the Third Wall is in too high a place for them.
      • The only person we know that fits the bill is Maschenny.
      • Neither Adori nor the Lo Po Bia Family Head are waiting for Baam behind the Third Wall.
    • The first chapter of this sub arc ends with a Maschenny and Jinsung appearance.
    • Maschenny and her designs for Baam have been slowly teased throughout the arc finally leading to this chapter.
  • Expectations for this sub arc:
    • This is probably the arc where Maschenny and Baam finally meet.
    • I expect the arc to end with a chapter that starts their interactions.
    • I think this arc is to show off/properly debut Maschenny.
    • I expect more Maschenny hype from other Elite High Rankers.
    • Perhaps we'll learn what she's truly up to, what her goal actually is, who she's working with, etc.
    • Maybe if we're lucky, we'll get some backstory as well.
Maybe if baam had beaten white rather than have 4 people stall him so white’s stronger half can internally cripple him. If Abelda hasn’t pulled him off that sword he would have bisected Baam
 

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Admin did nothing when team sweet & sour had to face Urek for the Zigenya flower, or back at the Cage. The rule is talked about more than it is enforced
 

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But how strong is White-V(icente) ? If Asensio + Aria + Khun + Rak can't defeat him in less than a minute, he must be at least around Cheonhee Ha lvl. Unless Asensio is not above div comm lvl or Aria got nerfed on top of losing her special ability. Strange i would expect Asensio to be around top 300 and White-V to be around Ranker lvl. Seems like It's just an excuse to keep him alive, and if he is still High Ranker lvl while Baam is unconscious how the hell did he lose vs Baam ? The other guys simply stopped him from beating Baam right now.
Abelda, the sister that fused with the billion souls aborted his final attack internally

you see it in the chapter
 

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Ren vs Androssi and Anak
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@lazybum the only times the rule has actually been semi-enforced was Pedro on the HT and Royal Kuhn at the Last Station
 

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Personally, I see Mas and Jinsung as roughly equals. But certainly IF she's stronger (I think their first interaction proves he's not exactly worried about her too much, and probably has a rough idea of her capabilities, so I don't think she's the stronger of the two), it isn't by leaps and bounds. Irregular and Adori fit that status considering he's a grandson of the Ha family which should be stronger than your average grandson of a LPB, and might even be on par with a LPBFH first gen son (but I repeat myself in this thread). I also think he predates Mas. This isn't to downplay Mas, but he just isn't shitting his pants over her by any means. I'd even argue she doesn't want those restraints coming off of him....

I mean why cock-tease the LPB flying castle capital ship

AND

Mas referencing a greater threat

AND

EVK, cited as the strongest on the field and arguably deserving of her rank 60 on power alone, shitting his/her/they's pants over a huge threat that even Yas admits he can't do anything about

IF it weren't someone on the FH side of the spectrum, up to including the LPB FH, and not so much the rank 100 side of the spectrum that shouldn't get Jinsung in a twist (along with BOTH Mas and EVK).




The story has repeatedly pointed to a threat that is leaps and bounds above any of the players on the field, and then there's all the shit with the FH possibly being on his way if not already there (did EVK already fail, who knows?)
And Yas repeatedly trying to stop the brothers from finishing the task in tandem with him talking to the father in the past. Ironic twist would be if Yas is trying to protect his friends children from LPbFH
 

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And Yas repeatedly trying to stop the brothers from finishing the task in tandem with him talking to the father in the past. Ironic twist would be if Yas is trying to protect his friends children from LPbFH
I’m a huge Yas fan and I’ve been searching tirelessly for angles to support why Yas would join FUG… but it is clearer than ever he’s 100% a bad guy! Reason why he can’t stand canine and mutts is because he can’t control them without mind control! Fear alone won’t work they’d rather die. That’s why he killed the mutt clan after Papa Baylord’s death. Nanatano said everyone conceded after seeing FT but not Yama or any canine.
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When Dokoko provoked/invigorated the canines, Yas called him an idiot for doing so because he too learned the hard way in trying to tame them but failed!!!
 

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It’s also clear that Yas is not strong enough to harbor all three fangs so he took only the best/ most powerful fang!
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SIU prefers dogs > cats it seems!
 

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There may be some unexpected twist with Yas, though I wouldn't say he is a "good guy". As Doom said, LPB ordered the execution of Doom's father and Yama's mother for falling in love, and this was before Yas was able to "slander" the father, and for some reason Doom is putting all the blame on Yas. There's also a short scene where Yas is looking seriously at Yama after he absorbed successfully Doom's fang, and Yama witness some kind of memory involving his father and Yas, where Yas seems to be arguing with the father. But regardless the reason, Yama won't forget that Yas ordered the canine to kill each other, Yama was willing to kneel to have his people.
 
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And basically bam and wangnan's reaction when they found out that akraptor and prince died were smilliar, they both blame themselves, the difference is that wangnan is weak and baam is strong, if wangnan is strong he will surely do the same thing as baam (revenge)
No, the bigger difference is that their deaths actually were Wangnan's fault.
 

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Now that Baam has cleared his map, this should prevent anybody in the Cat Tower from entering his map! And technically Yama cleared his too right? He’s at his destination. So that leaves EVK and Kallavan’s map the only 2 available maps for the party to jump to!
 

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No, the bigger difference is that their deaths actually were Wangnan's fault.
How do you figure that?

Because they were, as a group, trying to catch that guy with the arm to cure that other guy with the arm (neither of whom have names i can remember). They got in over their heads and died. The bulk of the blame there is with Rachel, who actually killed Arkraptor and set up the whole arm thing. And Baam for being a bad friend and not trying to help because he was too busy doing his own thing.
 

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They got in over their heads and died.
On account of Wangnan's inferiority complex towards Baam that drove him to separate from him.

Rachel and company were on the train and going nowhere. Confronting them could have waited until after Name Hunt Station. Wangnan needed to pretend to be the hero and Prince and Akraptor died for it.
 

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How do you figure that?

Because they were, as a group, trying to catch that guy with the arm to cure that other guy with the arm (neither of whom have names i can remember). They got in over their heads and died. The bulk of the blame there is with Rachel, who actually killed Arkraptor and set up the whole arm thing. And Baam for being a bad friend and not trying to help because he was too busy doing his own thing.
Cassano and horyang ?
 

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How do you figure that?

Because they were, as a group, trying to catch that guy with the arm to cure that other guy with the arm (neither of whom have names i can remember). They got in over their heads and died. The bulk of the blame there is with Rachel, who actually killed Arkraptor and set up the whole arm thing. And Baam for being a bad friend and not trying to help because he was too busy doing his own thing.
Blame goes entirely to Wagnan, he was warned by Hwa Ryun that people would die and like the dumbass he is he replied that he’d make sure no one dies! Wags is 100% to blame without question
 

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Eh I wouldn't blame Bam for that because it was about time he decides who to take with him even if he went to NHS for a selfish reason which is to prove to Yuri they're capable to go to the FoD I think. Though it's interesting Bam was the one who wanted to bring Horyang back enough to go to the Hand of Arlene.

I think it was a bit of Wangnan's fault to go run after them considering they're rather weak, didn't have much of a plan (and they took the departure of Yura and Rachel for granted, underestimated White because they thought he could swoon him with the prospect of being his subordinates...which is pretty stupid considering White is a monster. White is not the brightest tool but seriously what were they thinking sending Prince and Miseng to him) and they had to send off Ehwa, one of the most powerful or capable in their team away with Viole.

I understand they wanted to bring Horyang back to life but really. Ofc Rachel baited them through the Hand of Arlene but I don't really know if Rachel intended for Cassano to take Horyang's devil in Workshop which triggered those events. Still don't know much why he went along with them, took Traveller (who's one of the most useless and that guy with the ignition weapon who keeps following Yura) then just ended leaving like that.
 
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On account of Wangnan's inferiority complex towards Baam that drove him to separate from him.

Rachel and company were on the train and going nowhere. Confronting them could have waited until after Name Hunt Station. Wangnan needed to pretend to be the hero and Prince and Akraptor died for it.
Baam wasn't exactly tripping over himself to help. He is very selectively loyal to his friends.

Blame goes entirely to Wagnan, he was warned by Hwa Ryun that people would die and like the dumbass he is he replied that he’d make sure no one dies! Wags is 100% to blame without question
It was a risky plan that turned out badly but if they wanted to save Horyang there wasn't exactly another option. Thanks in large part to FUG and Hwa Ryun.

The person who deserves most of the blame is the girl who did the stabbing and the white fellow who did the soul eating.

Cassano and horyang ?
Yeah, them. The fact that you can remember their names proves you're better than Baam... and me.
 
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