Chapter Tower of God Chapter 514 Spoilers & Discussion

The one waiting is...

  • The Lo Po Bia Head

    Votes: 44 53.7%
  • Adori

    Votes: 4 4.9%
  • Another Lo Po Bia

    Votes: 12 14.6%
  • Another Family Head

    Votes: 5 6.1%
  • Some strong Shinheuh

    Votes: 4 4.9%
  • Rachel

    Votes: 1 1.2%
  • Yama's dad

    Votes: 2 2.4%
  • Maschenny

    Votes: 6 7.3%
  • Someone else

    Votes: 4 4.9%

  • Total voters
    82
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English translated chapter ----
I know it's written chapter 513 but it's chapter 514,chack it out
 

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This just looks like worship and admiring someone to me. You can have that reaction to someone to admire, look up to and basically worship them without having a romantic interest in them, you know that right?
So a Branch Leader admires and worships his sister from an entirely different branch so much so that he’ll jeopardize his own family, fathers position against Jahad lol??? Those feels run deep and as of now it’s only 1 sided, since Mas treats him like a stepping stool!
 

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You're underestimating how far SIU will go to make Aguero as miserable as humanly possible. Baam and Maria meeting and having a thing for one another is about the cruelest thing that one can do to him.

I hope it happens, because it would make all the fujoshi shit themselves with rage and I would enjoy that very much.
To be fair, we have nearly zero context of what their relationship is. To me it's also a hard sell that aguero would just fall in love with a 6th degree niece or something and then immediately bail on his biological sister. I could see aguero backstabbing them in order to further his interests though. Hypothetically, putting his chips behind a more talented princess that had better chance of acquiring power than his own lesser sister and not as successful family line. Maria showing some manner of interest in bam, same as every other female in the series, would make sense though.
 

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I could see aguero backstabbing them in order to further his interests though. Hypothetically, putting his chips behind a more talented princess that had better chance of acquiring power than his own lesser sister and not as successful family line.
All of this wildly contradicts everything AA and his flashbacks told us of his relationship with Maria and his family.

It sounds exactly like AA fell in love.
 

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All of this wildly contradicts everything AA and his flashbacks told us of his relationship with Maria and his family.

It sounds exactly like AA fell in love.
The flashback didn't tell us that aguero fell in love. That is just one plausible outcome from that exchange out of however many possibilities. It's absurd to suggest that the only plausible outcome from that meeting is them falling in love. Add to that odds are higher that maria is aguero's half sister than her being aguero's nth degree niece. We have no certainty from any of this, all we can do is speculate. Within that, to me aguero just doing stuff because he fell in love doesn't exactly fit with him. It'd make more sense if the motivation was more along the lines of aguero's own agenda... Or perhaps his mother and sister were dicks to him and aguero decided to side with the more likely than not half sister that was nice to him.
 

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The flashback didn't tell us that aguero fell in love. That is just one plausible outcome from that exchange out of however many possibilities. It's absurd to suggest that the only plausible outcome from that meeting is them falling in love. Add to that odds are higher that maria is aguero's half sister than her being aguero's nth degree niece. We have no certainty from any of this, all we can do is speculate. Within that, to me aguero just doing stuff because he fell in love doesn't exactly fit with him. It'd make more sense if the motivation was more along the lines of aguero's own agenda... Or perhaps his mother and sister were dicks to him and aguero decided to side with the more likely than not half sister that was nice to him.
  1. Maria is Aguero's half sister.
  2. Aguero told us why he chose to make Maria a Princess.
 

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Incest is definitely a thing! Didn’t Elaine fall for a LPB family member, different branch! And if there ever was a winner for the princess challenge, technically that would be incest as well!
Well i don't think it would be incest , GW have so many offspring , that in the end it doesn't matter anymore .
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Because zahard is the one among the great warriors with the greatest physical toughness. It's one of his primary traits (though of course zahard excels at everything to some capacity).

Irregular blood concentration? I don't think that's a thing... My take (guess) on the blood thing and the princesses is that zahard is basically passing his own traits to the princesses via the ritual. So the princesses get absurdly powerful bodies because zahard has that. My guess here is that if other beings would pass different traits (though since all of the great warriors have to different degrees strong bodies all of the recipients of their blood would also receive a boost in that regard, to different degrees). For a while now I've wondered if the process could result in users manifesting other types of boosts. Like enhanced shinsoo control or even zahard's attributes as well.
Enne is a living representation , that having more blood off a irregular does matter heavily .

Nothing really indicate jahad is above other GW in term of physical prowess , jahad princess get stronger and have more potential because off a irregular blood .

I think that any irregular blood would result in a better body .
 

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  1. Maria is Aguero's half sister.
  2. Aguero told us why he chose to make Maria a Princess.
Welp, but if that is the case then it doesn't make sense for them to be in love.

What? When did aguero reveal that?
 

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What? When did aguero reveal that?
In Season 1 and on the Hidden Floor.

He thought Maria deserved to be at the King's side. He described her in a very rosy manner (which is part of why people think he was enamoured).

He says that he regrets not asking her to let him climb with her.
 

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Well i don't think it would be incest , GW have so many offspring , that in the end it doesn't matter anymore .
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Enne is a living representation , that having more blood off a irregular does matter heavily .

Nothing really indicate jahad is above other GW in term of physical prowess , jahad princess get stronger and have more potential because off a irregular blood .

I think that any irregular blood would result in a better body .
Well zahard is more powerful than any 10 great family head even arlen and V he wasn't their leader for nothing dude he defeated Arie hon the most powerful ten great warriors for over 10 time !! There are all like bam friends who could never surpass him but unlike them they are god like being for the inhabitants
 

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Enne is a living representation , that having more blood off a irregular does matter heavily .

Nothing really indicate jahad is above other GW in term of physical prowess , jahad princess get stronger and have more potential because off a irregular blood .

I think that any irregular blood would result in a better body .
She definitely has super genes though my take here is that since genetics are at play it's more of a chance thing. You maybe have a higher chance of producing a super baby if you are higher up the family tree. But it's not outright impossible fur descendants further down the line to produce powerful people.

Welp, on that last part I basically agree. Though I would maintain that depending on whose blood you'd get different benefits.

With zahard the lore has always made the point of his brutish strength. Even during the fight between data jahad and bam we saw how much zahard's strength played into the battle. Bam ended up a bloody mess every time a fist from zahard even approached him.
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In Season 1 and on the Hidden Floor.

He thought Maria deserved to be at the King's side. He described her in a very rosy manner (which is part of why people think he was enamoured).

He says that he regrets not asking her to let him climb with her.
We have exactly zero details on that. Even when aguero talked with androsi and bam he said he won't reveal his motives.
 

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So a Branch Leader admires and worships his sister from an entirely different branch so much so that he’ll jeopardize his own family, fathers position against Jahad lol??? Those feels run deep and as of now it’s only 1 sided, since Mas treats him like a stepping stool!
He likely grew up hearing stories about maschenny and likely became a huge fan then he openly admitted most khun sons don’t like their father, didn’t seem to mind talking bad about his father either.

And your telling that it’s impossible for him to just look up to her and basically be a fan of her despite what’s going on with his father who he clearly doesn’t care much for or at least didn’t mind bad mouthing him? Why would Ascencio care about his fathers positions? His data version may have been one of data Eduan a favourites but That does not mean loyalty.

Hell Khun even said that data Eduan is very different from his current father so Ascenso caring more about the person his admires and basically hero worships than current Eduan withthout it being romantic isn’t a big leap like at all.
 

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This just looks like worship and admiring someone to me. You can have that reaction to someone to admire, look up to and basically worship them without having a romantic interest in them, you know that right?
Correct, and it is also Manga/Manwah/Anime Comedy

So a Branch Leader admires and worships his sister from an entirely different branch so much so that he’ll jeopardize his own family, fathers position against Jahad lol??? Those feels run deep and as of now it’s only 1 sided, since Mas treats him like a stepping stool!
I am not sure that you realize that The Asencio you saw was in the distant past, far younger in age and maturity wise relative to himself today. Just look at the Maschenny in the hidden floor and compare with her today. You simply cannot compare the mentality of a younger version of a person to that of the fully grown, more mature person.
 

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Maschenny Zahard and Ran may be a product of inbreeding going by their mother's name. That's all I'll say on this disgusting topic. Eduan is just gross, yuck 🤮
 

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She definitely has super genes though my take here is that since genetics are at play it's more of a chance thing. You maybe have a higher chance of producing a super baby if you are higher up the family tree. But it's not outright impossible fur descendants further down the line to produce powerful people.

Welp, on that last part I basically agree. Though I would maintain that depending on whose blood you'd get different benefits.

With zahard the lore has always made the point of his brutish strength. Even during the fight between data jahad and bam we saw how much zahard's strength played into the battle. Bam ended up a bloody mess every time a fist from zahard even approached him.
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We have exactly zero details on that. Even when aguero talked with androsi and bam he said he won't reveal his motives.
I pretty much i agree with you 2 first paragraphe and also the third , but we need to keep in mind that baam is growing so fast that his body can't keep up with his ability .

Other GW who don't have the torn which amplyfies shinsoo and not the body would have a stable foundation and likely will not meet Baam situation .
So i think all off them are physical beast , with difference off course , some will be more gifted , but all off them should be able crush semeone like Kallavan in a pure brawler figth . That is why data edhuan was able to face data jahad , it is likely that other great warrior could too , it is just that baam body is always lagging behind .
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In my opinion Maschenny didn't change that much .

Her core character is that off a maniac , her younger self is more direct , while she grew and became more deceptive , but in the end she is still the one who will figth to death against her father if she had the chance .
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In my opinion Maschenny didn't change that much .

Her core character is that off a maniac , her younger self is more direct , while she grew and became more deceptive , but in the end she is still the one who will figth to death against her father if she had the chance .
 

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Well i don't think it would be incest , GW have so many offspring , that in the end it doesn't matter anymore .
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Enne is a living representation , that having more blood off a irregular does matter heavily .

Nothing really indicate jahad is above other GW in term of physical prowess , jahad princess get stronger and have more potential because off a irregular blood .

I think that any irregular blood would result in a better body .
As far as I know, Enne was really very powerful. However her parents are both Wave Controllers as I recall. If her powers were likewise, then she would have the same limits as all wave controllers and In the end she can only max out close to Gustang or Eurasia, but not more than them.

The really confusing thing is the question of why are irregulars so different? Certainly there are privilege's granted by the Tower and sometimes by the Administrators to irregulars, (except for Phantaminum and Enryuu, who I don't think got favors from the Tower and certainly not from the administrators) So besides the aforementioned privileges, the strength of irregulars must be strength they got from their own ancestors, their own genes.

I suspect that the Tower must be inhibiting the descendants of the irregulars and limiting their abilities, other Genetics would support some descendants eventually superseding their ancestors or parents by mutations, evolution, and natural selection.
 

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No, the bigger difference is that their deaths actually were Wangnan's fault.
It was Rachel’s fault

Anyway the princess who will wed and bed baam is enne
 

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As far as I know, Enne was really very powerful. However her parents are both Wave Controllers as I recall. If her powers were likewise, then she would have the same limits as all wave controllers and In the end she can only max out close to Gustang or Eurasia, but not more than them.

The really confusing thing is the question of why are irregulars so different? Certainly there are privilege's granted by the Tower and sometimes by the Administrators to irregulars, (except for Phantaminum and Enryuu, who I don't think got favors from the Tower and certainly not from the administrators) So besides the aforementioned privileges, the strength of irregulars must be strength they got from their own ancestors, their own genes.

I suspect that the Tower must be inhibiting the descendants of the irregulars and limiting their abilities, other Genetics would support some descendants eventually superseding their ancestors or parents by mutations, evolution, and natural selection.
non irregular get power by contract with guardian while irregular are similar to guardian in status , in that they can draw shinsoo from the tower without any intermediary .

Borrowed power will never compare to real owned power .
 

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non irregular get power by contract with guardian while irregular are similar to guardian in status , in that they can draw shinsoo from the tower without any intermediary .

Borrowed power will never compare to real owned power .
Yet the FH's get their Immortality from The Administrators.....how do you explain that? Besides, I seem to recall that there are other contracts between some of the FHs and the administrators.
 

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Yet the FH's get their Immortality from The Administrators.....how do you explain that? Besides, I seem to recall that there are other contracts between some of the FHs and the administrators.
You are beside the point honestly .
 
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