Chapter Tower of God Chapter 515 Spoilers & Discussion

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Tower of God Chapter 515 - Alpha Scans

Bam, who was alone all his life has entered the tower to chase after his only friend, Rachel, but how will he survive without having any special strength or power?“What do you desire? Money and wealth? Honor and pride? Authority and power? Revenge? Or something that transcends them all? Whatever...

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[O_n_Sly]

I wouldn't be so certain that Zahard cannot kill Gustang.

But we do know that Gustang is arming an irregular with a weapon specifically made to kill Zahard.

Arming? It was left there for Baam! I’m sure Gustang would of used it himself if he could! Only thing Gustang did was hasten Baams growth to serve his own selfish motives

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FUG wanted Baam to quietly climb the tower and Gustang decided otherwise

 

[Jubei_Kibagami]

Arming? It was left there for Baam! I’m sure Gustang would of used it himself if he could! Only thing Gustang did was hasten Baams growth to serve his own selfish motives

Gustang didn't help Baam get a thorn fragment on FoD, and make sure that things went smoothly at the workshop battle (resulting in... Baam getting a thorn fragment)?

YES, ARMING.

That's two separate occasions where Gustang orchestrated events leading to Baam getting thorn fragments. I'm not sure how this is sooooo hard for you, but I forget you like to argue just to argue sometimes.

 

[O_n_Sly]

SIU has already said Gustang is an enemy but yah I love to argue!

 

[Epic_Rider]

Gustang didn’t care much for or believe in Baam, that’s why he gave Rachel the manta ray. Him, Urek and Garam wouldn’t of lied to or withheld some truths aboutBaam at FoD.

Rachel's value is that as someone from outside the Tower, she's immune to future vision, meaning the manta ray could move undetected. Baam is immune too, but being Baam, he would have been noticed by Zahard. Essentially the guy was a decoy.

 

[Jubei_Kibagami]

SIU has already said Gustang is an enemy but yah I love to argue!

Not only has that been attributed to being a mistranslation, but I don't really care IF that's what SIU said. SIU has said a lot of things.

Meanwhile, in the actual story, Gustang has acted more akin to an ally in every way possible, and not so much an enemy at all.




IF that's even true (Gustang is an enemy), then he's a late-stage enemy. That's only after manipulating events to further his goal in the interim, which curiously is very similar to FUG's and Baam's goals, and results in Baam being armed well and protected, as with the others from FUG in his party.

 

[zoradante1]

Baam's possible sobriquets after finishing climbing the tower.

True Human Hunter(every great warrior except lpb,fug slayers and elders,chadzino,chadryun) , True Milf Hunter(ha yurin?,yeon hana) , True Princess Hunter (Yuri,endorsi,maschenny,adori?,enne) ,True Waifu Hunter (Yeon yihwa,aria,Xia xia)

considering maschenny already betrayed her daddy and enne hates her daddy,the only princess would have problem of falling under the spell of baam looks like adori and i feel like she would fall under her spell too but i hope we see her fight before that happens because every ranker on baam's side gets hell of a nerf. Probably it would be good if mas fights with early sons of LPB too because this arc basically didn't have a single proper fight except baam vs white.

 

[Jubei_Kibagami]

Rachel's value is that as someone from outside the Tower, she's immune to future vision, meaning the manta ray could move undetected. Baam is immune too, but being Baam, he would have been noticed by Zahard. Essentially the guy was a decoy.

Let's also not forget that Rachel wouldn't have succeeded, even being equipped with the manta ray, without Baam taking the lead from Gustang (and the key) and going to the data floor in the first place, allowing Rachel to tag along and also get close enough for it to go to work.

Essentially, Gustang needed them both to unknowingly work in tandem to gain his prize(s). Or, seen another way Rachel was the backup plan to Baam.




The net result is Gustang got what he wanted, exactly how he Aizen'd things to go.

 

[PlotArmouredTitan]

1. Asensio: Yes. It's a top secret information that only the few highest military authorities know about. // Of course, Lo Po Bia family didn't have a justified reason to start a war against the Po Bidau family, // So they offered to do it under one condition. // Which was to completely destroy the 4th Army Corp, and have it rebuilt with people from the Lo Po Bia army to participate in the war, including Lyborick as a commander. And- // To leave the disposal of the irregular Slayer candidate at their hand.

Boy I can't wait for Kallavan to find out that the reason the 4th corps was wiped out was because the higher ups were purposeful using his guys as bargaining chips lol. He's just living in denial going after Lyb at this point.

 

[zoradante1]

Well, in the near future, the Ha family and the Eurasia family might step in.

And distant future, the Khun and Yeon may also join with Bam against Zahard.

Sure, Yeon Hana is excited to meet black warrior.

 

[Jubei_Kibagami]

Baam's possible sobriquets after finishing climbing the tower.

True Human Hunter(every great warrior except lpb,fug slayers and elders,chadzino,chadryun) , True Milf Hunter(ha yurin?,yeon hana) , True Princess Hunter (Yuri,endorsi,maschenny,adori?,enne) ,True Waifu Hunter (Yeon yihwa,aria,Xia xia)

considering maschenny already betrayed her daddy and enne hates her daddy,the only princess would have problem of falling under the spell of baam looks like adori and i feel like she would fall under her spell too but i hope we see her fight before that happens because every ranker on baam's side gets hell of a nerf. Probably it would be good if mas fights with early sons of LPB too because this arc basically didn't have a single proper fight except baam vs white.

IDK, 'Milf Hunter' has a certain ring to it...

 

[O_n_Sly]

Not only has that been attributed to being a mistranslation, but I don't really care IF that's what SIU said. SIU has said a lot of things.

Meanwhile, in the actual story, Gustang has acted more akin to an ally in every way possible, and not so much an enemy at all.




IF that's even true (Gustang is an enemy), then he's a late-stage enemy. That's only after manipulating events to further his goal in the interim, which curiously is very similar to FUG's and Baam's goals, and results in Baam being armed well and protected, as with the others from FUG in his party.

Maschenny even mentioned it chapters ago, that ALL FHs can’t agree and have their own plans of getting rid Baam!

 

[zoradante1]

Only.... he.... declared..... open.... war..... on.... Zahard....

You get that, right?



Only the person you quoted has since rescinded that view - both go to LPB forces.



'born'... there are a few that believe she's a clone of sorts (myself included). Thus, an irregular of sorts.

SIU's blogpost about adori zahard literally states that adori is born on 132th floor. Her being irregular is impossible. Her being daughter of zahard is impossible as SIU said No zahard princess has zahard's blood. I don't think she is a clone either,she looks too important to story to be a mere clone for someone,plus there is also fact that She will let her call someone with her birth name,it looks a little bit strange for a clone,no?. Her being clone is %99 impossible to me.

 

[O_n_Sly]

Funny how everyone’s SAVIOR Gustang showed up at the Last Station after the danger to Baam died down. That’s a savior thing to do right?

 

[Kunrin]

SIU himself said "No princess has zahard's blood". If you are trying refute his words then be my guest.

Lol, SIU has been known to change his mind on somethings. You're getting too worked up, I myself said it was just a fun theory I thought up.

 

[VON]

I said they were assigned? Where?



I pointedly said, as did @sazon that a possible destruction of Zahard supersedes any beef any Slayer would have with a FH, which is minor relative to the bigger issue.

At best it would be tabled until Zahard was taken care of, then Gustang and whatever loser Slayer wants him dead can finish up.




Again, FUG (as a whole) is against the FH's because they are allied with Zahard. That isn't a problem if they aren't.

And, you can't even name a slayer, if one even exists, targeting Gustang. There may very well be a reason there isn't a current one.

Holy shit you just gave me a thought. There are currently 7 slayers out of the 11 required to fight Zahard and the 10 Leaders, meaning the 4 empty seats are possibly indication that 4 will side with FUG from a storyline perspective.

 

[O_n_Sly]

Lol some of y’all should re-read the workshop before spouting utter nonsense. Modorako’s plan was spoiled so he became butt hurt and tried to directly interfere, and that’s when Gustang stepped in. And TBH it was after Modorako killed the Daft Punk look a likes!

 

[Consul N]

Kallavan you're never getting your old job back bro. My condolences. I feel like Gustang is too smart to fall for this ploy. We'll see.

 

[nivoxtc]

Judging by this chapter, there is big chance that in the next one we will see the long time awaited Baam x Mascheny face to face.

 

[Turtle hunter]

l

Hã? And since when is FUG a fraternity where everyone loves each other? Luslec doesn't care for other Slayers as Gustang doesn't care about the empire and the 10 families

lol elder themselve don't give a shit , Khell outright disrecpected 3 slayers and one slayers candidate .

 

[Jubei_Kibagami]

SIU's blogpost about adori zahard literally states that adori is born on 132th floor. Her being irregular is impossible. Her being daughter of zahard is impossible as SIU said No zahard princess has zahard's blood. I don't think she is a clone either,she looks too important to story to be a mere clone for someone,plus there is also fact that She will let her call someone with her birth name,it looks a little bit strange for a clone,no?. Her being clone is %99 impossible to me.

SIU has been known to change the 'facts' in his old blog posts unfortunately. So it's impossible to tell what he sticks with or not.

But, "born" can be a euphemism for creation artificially. Such as an artificial womb or even a surrogate to a cloned being.

Much in the same way that Wangnan is "born" in the RLD, when there are good reasons to believe that he too is a clone..

Manipulation of genetics is central to the princess program, and it looks like the princes as well.

That obviously opens up for the possibility of clones as those are related themes (genetic manipulation and cloning being very close in tech)

Holy shit you just gave me a thought. There are currently 7 slayers out of the 11 required to fight Zahard and the 10 Leaders, meaning the 4 empty seats are possibly indication that 4 will side with FUG from a storyline perspective.

I wouldn't even put it past Luslec to have Slayers in name only, for appearances' sake. Or to just keep the ones not needed on ice if they truly harbor a FH hatred, and that gets in the way of his greater plans.

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Funny how everyone’s SAVIOR Gustang showed up at the Last Station after the danger to Baam died down. That’s a savior thing to do right?

Lol some of y’all should re-read the workshop before spouting utter nonsense. Modorako’s plan was spoiled so he became butt hurt and tried to directly interfere, and that’s when Gustang stepped in. And TBH it was after Modorako killed the Daft Punk look a likes!

Everything's gone EXACTLY the way Gustang has wanted it to go. He's Aizen.

And, the net result of his involvement has been Baam gaining a thorn fragment - both times.



I'm not sure what, or who, you think you're refuting here.