Games Mafia Game 97 - Omoneko: Answer Arc - End Game

[Copy Panda]

The witch shall praise the wise and bestow four treasures. One shall be all the gold from the Golden Land. One shall be the resurrection of all the dead souls. One shall be the resurrection of the love that was lost. One shall be to put the witch to sleep for all time.

Post-game
End of Game Death Post
End of Game Winner Post
Updated OP
Night Actions Umi I + Night Actions Umi II
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[digitaldude]

Who is left to claim a role?

 

[Shad]

This is not how it works. Pirate is not Necromancer.

Priorities, the recruitment happened before the steel.
The mason group was already created.

The pirate then steals the recruiter role and joins it with the recruited player.

Lambu died Mason because the recruitment happened?

 

[Nii]

I did in my coms earlier (twice i think )

Oh okay, that's good to hear. Wonder if he picked anyone yet, he should reveal if he did and who.

Also if we kill Shad today and he turns out guilty, at least we know you're naive. He definitely feels like a good target, with how he keeps saying Van is mafia lol.

 

[GrySun]

Priorities, the recruitment happened before the steel.
The mason group was already created.

The pirate then steals the recruiter role and joins it with the recruited player.

Lambu died Mason because the recruitment happened?

Shad you can‘t use 2 primary roles in the same night. Doesn‘t even work for most secondary roles.

 

[Vandred]

I really don't know how this stuff works.

Your argument in a nutshell. Moving on.

I‘m afraid Shad is likely a Mentee trying to die so that his Mentor can pick up a strong trusted townie, or is a townie like in the Civ gamebeing stubborn to the last. Or final red mafia trying to have fun hm.
We‘ll probably have to vote him out of necessity, but I don‘t want other players hiding low today.

I don't think a Mentee would have claimed Defuser or Super Mason, both very meme claims, unless he lent his real role to the Mentor. But with how the Reds have been decimated, I wouldn't be surprised at all if he were the last one like you said, or a desperate attempt to finally get a townie lynched by whatever means and end the game earlier than Christmas.

Cinera is legit.

How? He knows you got Guilty on both Marms, confirmed mafia, and Haya, pretty much confirmed townie. Why so quick to confirm him?

Why not add Van to your trusted list after daw's death? Chances of him being mafia pirate stealing Haya's role in night 2 are pretty low.

More like nonexistent, but I'll take "pretty low" at this point

Daws was recruited by me N2, he talked about it, he had no reason to lie. He died as townie Mason. Pretty sure the whole argument stems from people who don't have a full understanding of the rules involved, didn't go back to check everything themselves, or are scum riding on it because they think it benefits them.

Bel i can sort of believe mostly because he is either a sleeper or a death miller in case we got actual dets and not just useless ones.

Let's get rid of Nii to check his claim of Gry's role, that way we get rid of two stones, a sus pirate claim and one of the trillion dets we got.

I can also see a Sleeper make sense in a game this big, and Death Miller could work as a way to mess with our perception of the Golden Land majority. But the problem is what Bel's already addressed herself; if she's Sleeper and she gets recruited, we'd never know.

As for the second part, are you saying you'd rather lynch Nii today and leave Shad for tomorrow...?

 

[Nii]

Who is left to claim a role?

Shobu

 

[GrySun]

Who is left to claim a role?

@Shobu_Yoruichi

 

[Shad]

Shad you can‘t use 2 primary roles in the same night. Doesn‘t even work for most secondary roles.

What do you mean 2 primary roles?

Can the have targeted him with both pirate and a kill?
Is that what you are asking?

 

[Belserion]

Sorry if these questions have been asked before, I'm a bit busy today but I'll back read off and on during the next few hours.

@Nii if you distrust Gry so much why did you steal his role? I mean the detectives have been useless. We still only have your word Gry is town because you can't really prove it without dying. If Gry gets no result tonight, that could simply mean you killed him and he's an illusion and you're prepared to just drop some fake det results like I assume some of them are doing.

With the Shad issue, tbh he's acting like the Shad from last game. Has a wild theory and is prepared to die on that hill no matter how much you point out the flaws in his plan /theory. I remember him and Holt going at it just like him and Gry and they were both town.

Speaking of @Holt can I ask why you chose to vote Tatsu last phase?

@Shobu_Yoruichi are you going to claim today?

 

[GrySun]

What do you mean 2 primary roles?

Can the have targeted him with both pirate and a kill?
Is that what you are asking?

Pirate. Recruiter. 2 main roles. You can steal a role, but cannot use it until it is officially yours at the end of the night, so you cannot use it N1. I won‘t discuss this further.

 

[Nii]

How? He knows you got Guilty on both Marms, confirmed mafia, and Haya, pretty much confirmed townie. Why so quick to confirm him

No I believe he revealed first that he got guilty for Grysun last nightphase, and then DD said he got the same result lol. Either they're working as mafia, or this very likely confirms Cinera.

 

[Shad]

Pirate. Recruiter. 2 main roles. You can steal a role, but cannot use it until it is officially yours at the end of the night, so you cannot use it N1. I won‘t discuss this further.

He didn't use it N1, Lambu used it.

The mason group doesn't disappear, it just get transferred to the new recruiter

 

[GrySun]

He didn't use it N1, Lambu used it.

The mason group doesn't disappear, it just get transferred to the new recruiter

This is wrong, no members get transferred anywhere. + Daws is told in his PM the name of the Recruiter that recruited him.

 

[Nii]

Which reminds me that both DD and Cinera got guilty on Grysun. DD isn't confirmed insane detective, but it feels kind of likely. Just something to keep in mind as more possible proof that he's townie.

 

[Shad]

This is wrong, no members get transferred anywhere. + Daws is told in his PM the name of the Recruiter that recruited him.

Why are you so sure, ask panda please.

 

[GrySun]

Why are you so sure, ask panda please.

I write the rules together with the other hosts You can ask Panda yourself.

 

[Shad]

Gry, why are you so stubborn, you are not thinking about this in good faith, every time you hit a road block you just give up the investigation.

 

[Copy Panda]

leave panda out of your shenanigans

 

[GrySun]

Gry, why are you so stubborn, you are not thinking about this in good faith, every time you hit a road block you just give up the investigation.

You gave me such a great laugh here Shad, you get a like for that. Pot n kettle.

 

[Evil3ye]

So, if Nii and Shad are equally sus I suggest we go for Nii today, just for the fact that I got shad on my list anyways and can kill him later if I die.
If shad is still more sus, then ignore me
@Evil3ye what do you think milord

I am back and will start catching up.

My results are from Lambu, basically what we already knew. Night 1 recruitment and killing and night 2 scattered by a protection action.