Chapter Tower of God Chapter 517 Spoilers & Discussion

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[Jyu viole grace]

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Tower Of God Chapter 517 - Alpha Scans

Bam, who was alone all his life has entered the tower to chase after his only friend, Rachel, but how will he survive without having any special strength or power?“What do you desire? Money and wealth? Honor and pride? Authority and power? Revenge? Or something that transcends them all? Whatever...

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[EternalWinter]

If we leave it to Cinera Maschenny cleans the floor with Enryuu and Phanta with just one finger. lmao

 

[Chilly12]

Btw when maschenny said baam is weak she was referring to what the fug elder said before the nest arc began. Baam cant play in the big leagues yet since his power isnt FH lvl yet. Thats why the elder said if the lo po bia FH and lusclec move he wont be able to do a thing. It doesnt mean hes weak. Current baam can fight top 100 High rankers if he activates his sun power and burns the souls to inflate the thorn like he did against white. Plus the darkness shinsu he inherited from V is pretty op. Probably stronger than khun electricity and arie sword

 

[EternalWinter]

Well, it wasn't really them, it was Asensio's choice to stay, because there's no sense for him to go. BTW, they're going on a no-return mission, what scares me is the captain's regular subordinate getting left behind.

Baam has on of the best Guides, two hack regulars, and the slayer with the greatest potential loyal to him

If he fucks this up, that's on him

 

[Cinera]

I'm talking his genes.

He's equal Ha and Ari.

Sure, he grew up learning Ha art, but for instance his 'skin' is Ha genetically.


Ha blood is just more dominant it seems.

TBH, I expect that incestuous relationships are common among the 10 Families (Khun Maschenny (Maschenny and Ran's mother) appears to also be a descendant of Eduan). Granted, Jinsung being so early on in the Ha Family tree would make it more difficult for his father to have Ha blood.

I think Ha genes being more dominant is a sensible take.

About HJ and Maschenny, she is playing with fire. It's one thing to tinker with Yasratcha's game that completely served your plans, quite another to tinker with 2 FH. I don't think Yurin or the twins would move directly because of HJ, given the dialogues we've had in the past, this idea of him being important to the Ha family comes from all his fame, after all he's one of Yurin's first grandchildren and he lived with the 13GW, I would be really surprised if the Ha family got directly into this war because of him specifically.

Maschenny thinks otherwise. She kept Jinsung alive because he's important to the Ha Family:

She's not so stupid as to misjudge something of this magnitude.

 

[zoradante1]

The Armada she brought to say hi to Jinsung commiserate with this sentiment.



LOL no. Prime White and Maschenny aren't on the same level.

Give us a proof that, Prime white is weaker than maschenny then? Don't write that baby dragon in here btw,it's entirely due to her scheme interfering with that kind of war which includes many bigshots. You guys might have a character to simp for and can like as much as you want but don't try to claim things you don't have any single evidence. Simply by feats and statements, Prime white is still stronger than both kallavan and maschenny. That's the end of conclusion,nothing more.

 

[PlotArmouredTitan]

I don't think so, FUG >>>> Mas probably. Mas is simply content to stay with Zahard because it's likely easier for her to scheme.

Mas isn't actually loyal to Z. She's been playing all sorts of games behind the scenes. We very well known she could ally with both without any problems.

my words but Luch's, a genesis ranker.

Also, could you remind me who Luch is.

 

[lazybum]

Mas isn't actually loyal to Z. She's been playing all sorts of games behind the scenes. We very well known she could ally with both without any problems.

Oh I agree she isn't loyal, but I think she is very prudent and won't deal with FUG without tangible reward.

Also, could you remind me who Luch is.

Dowon and Cha's hidden grove teammate, that one who betrayed them. He died by making 4th squadron flagship explode.

 

[PlotArmouredTitan]

Btw when maschenny said baam is weak she was referring to what the fug elder said before the nest arc began. Baam cant play in the big leagues yet since his power isnt FH lvl yet. Thats why the elder said if the lo po bia FH and lusclec move he wont be able to do a thing. It doesnt mean hes weak. Current baam can fight top 100 High rankers if he activates his sun power and burns the souls to inflate the thorn like he did against white. Plus the darkness shinsu he inherited from V is pretty op. Probably stronger than khun electricity and arie sword

But Mas isn't FH level either. Why does she deserve to pick a side while Baam gets used as a pawn?

 

[salo14419]

Also, could you remind me who Luch is.

The Khun fucker that betrayed (yesn't) the war heros (Dowon/Cha, etc).

 

[AshDVanguard]

Let's get realistic for a moment the baby dragon comment was purely about her scheming nothing else masch cannot be the strongest in the same nest as? Jinsung(as we have seen before the last station), kallavan, lyb and maybe even Evankhell. She commands as much power over these ppl because of her position nothing else, while I don't expect them to 1 hit her she's certainly not beating any of these ppl 1v1

 

[Cinera]

Almost every commentary that you pull has no basis other than headcannons and it doesn't stop you from saying so.

Kay.

Except it doesn't? If she is not aware of how Baam vs White went, she has literally no basis to claim that Baam is too weak to side with her. Baam literally handled White's prime with ease while holding back enough to lure him into the stupid trap.
Even if we claim that White is weaker than Maschenny (which we both can agree with that, we disagree about how much).

Maschenny still told White that he was too weak to side with her.

First thing Ascension did as soon as he appeared on the battlefield was to compare himself with White to make the claim that he could beat the current White/Vincente easily, that shows that White Prime is certainly not "weak enough" to side with Maschenny.

1. Asensio never admitted inferiority to Prime White.
2. Asensio himself is not strong enough to side with Maschenny; he's her subordinate.
3. Asensio himself said that he's a cockroach compared to her:
   
   

Then it's safe to say that Jinsung calling her a baby dragon doesn't equal to Jinsung being weaker than her, right? Given that he could consider himself as a grown up dragon. Afterall, he called her a child and did so even now.
So how exactly you came up with "Maschenny is the strongest character in the nest" narrative then?

Jinsung initially thought that Maschenny was a little water snake, but she turned out to be a dragon that even the ocean cannot contain:

He can't possibly consider himself in such high regards. Maschenny is a Top 100 High Ranker, and Jinsung was aware of that when he called her a "little water snake". He now believes that she's far, exceedingly more dangerous than his initial assessment.

And his initial assessment was one that already factored in that she's a Top 100 High Ranker.


So no, unless Jinsung is something like a Top 30 High Ranker, he can't possibly believe that he's above Maschenny.


And the "baby" is in reference to Maschenny's age. Jinsung is like 10x her age.

 

[PlotArmouredTitan]

Dowon and Cha's hidden grove teammate, that one who betrayed them. He died by making 4th squadron flagship explode.

Luch did say Fug is weak, but he said that in comparison to the 10 families. Not to the point of being used a a pawn by someone like Mas.

Oh I agree she isn't loyal, but I think she is very prudent and won't deal with FUG without tangible reward.

If she didn't have Jisung hostage, do you think she'll still be talking to Baam from such a high horse? There are rewards for her, it's just that she has a hostage this time.

 

[sazon]

Baam has on of the best Guides, two hack regulars, and the slayer with the greatest potential loyal to him

If he fucks this up, that's on him

He always spoils everything.

 

[Chilly12]

But Mas isn't FH level either. Why does she deserve to pick a side while Baam gets used as a pawn?

Shes just a scheming opportunist whos does everything for the sake of fighting. Lol shell probably switch once baams FH lvl since her position as princess restricts her alot

 

[sazon]

It is obvious that the FUG is not a threat to Zahard, Wolhaiksong has Urek and Baek Ryun, the latter being in the same situation as Luslec "if he moves, an FH will have to interfere" and God knows how many irregulars there is in the Workshop, apart from his numerous researches. The FUG has no irregulars, they at most have the strength of a family.

 

[O_n_Sly]

Maschenny chose to make a wager with Yuri instead of just killing her. That means the fallout from killing Yuri is not something Maschenny would want to deal with.

There is nothing to prove that. Just another ass pull by a Maschenny Stan!

 

[lazybum]

If she didn't have Jisung hostage, do you think she'll still be talking to Baam from such a high horse? There are rewards for her, it's just that she has a hostage this time.

If she doesn't have JH as hostage to control Baam, I imagine she won't even bother to talk to Baam, it's a waste of her time if she can't force him to do her bidding. She'll do something else in the shadow or something

 

[PlotArmouredTitan]

Shes just a scheming opportunist whos does everything for the sake of fighting.

That's the thing some are confused about, she is dangerous because of her schemes and not because of her strength or influence.

The fact that she says Baam is weak doesn't mean that she is correct. That's just her own limited perspective.

Lol shell probably switch once baams FH lvl since her position as princess restricts her alot

Well, I hope he rejects her by then.

 

[salo14419]

Maschenny still told White that he was too weak to side with her.

Lol? no.

Asensio never admitted inferiority to Prime White.

I never said he did. I said someone siding with Maschenny still compared himself to White/Weakened White. If he was really weak (White Prime), he wouldn't have done that.

Asensio himself is not strong enough to side with Maschenny; he's her subordinate.

Still strong enough to be on her side, being a subordinate is... literally still under the definition of siding with someone.

Asensio himself said that he's a cockroach compared to her:

Sure, pull images from data Ascensio simping (just like you do, LOL) over her sister from years ago.
Clearly 100% trustworthy.

Jinsung initially thought that Maschenny was a little water snake, but she turned out to be a dragon that even the ocean cannot contain:

regarding to her schemes. He literally assumed initially she was nothing but a child looking to stir some problems without knowing fully well how scary the world can be. Now he saw that she is capable of creating such war even if she herself is not that strong to be a part of it.
It has nothing to do with her power, but Mas has been shown to talk to Jinsung from time to time. Can you imagine Maschenny going to talk with Jinsung only to raise her power for exactly what reason? There is none but your headcannon.
She had the opportunity to show that she was actually stronger than Jinsung but she decided to backstab him if it shows something, it's that she is actually weaker than him.
Imagine an arrogant battle maniac having to retort to such petty tricks? Well at least gives you the reason that she has a good judgement.

And his initial assessment was one that already factored in that she's a Top 100 High Ranker.

And still decided to treat her like a child that is not worth his time. If anything, this proves that yet again... Jinsung is stronger.

So no, unless Jinsung is something like a Top 30 High Ranker, he can't possibly believe that he's above Maschenny.

or maybe... Maschenny is nowhere near close to be top 30 or 50. Have you considered that? Doubt so because your headcannon says that she is at the very least top 30.

 

[Cinera]

Yurin's favorite and precious to her grandfather (One of the twins) remember that the HA twins live at war for the leadership of the family, so a princess Zahard changes the entire political spectrum.

The Ha Twins are women. The Ha is a matriarchal Family.

As for Adori hunting Maschenny, does Eduan care enough about Mas to step out of one of his wives' skirts? Or will zahard stop crying into his pillow for Arlen, to stop it? Because we're talking about the strongest princess that only FH can stop her on. And unlike Yuri, we don't know Maschenny's relationship with Eduan and even less with Zahard.

1. Maschenny appears to be Eduan's favourite.
   • The children on the Hidden Floor were the three that Eduan liked of the thousands that passed through the Hidden Floor.
   • Maschenny's younger brother Ran was personally selected by Eduan himself.
   • Similar to the above, Ran was raised with a golden spoon "bedazzled with real diamonds" as the New Ace of the Khun Family.
2. Maschenny herself has unrivaled political power in the Khun Family.
   • One of the Khun Family's Faction Leaders (Asensio) is her errand boy.
   • She seems to have orchestrated an alliance between her Family and the Lo Po Bia Family.
   • Maschenny is the only 13 Month Princess in the history of the Khun Family.

Tl;Dr:

1. Eduan would be very pissed if Maschenny was killed.
2. Even if Eduan was not pissed, the rest of the Family would be.