Chapter Tower of God Chapter 517 Spoilers & Discussion

[Jyu viole grace]

 

[Jyu viole grace]

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Tower Of God Chapter 517 - Alpha Scans

Bam, who was alone all his life has entered the tower to chase after his only friend, Rachel, but how will he survive without having any special strength or power?“What do you desire? Money and wealth? Honor and pride? Authority and power? Revenge? Or something that transcends them all? Whatever...

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[Cinera]

They acted against Enne, the child of two FH's, anyone is fair game.

How so? She's the central power of the Khun family according to Cinera even tho we have no basis to make such claims.

We do.

Per SIU, she's the "central power" of the Khun Family:

Season 2 Chapter 105 Blog Post

A Princess who is a direct descendent of one of the 10 House Heads is especially influential and powerful.

If a Princess is from one of the 10 Families, she will become the central power of that Family in the future

Source

Furthermore, Maschenny is very special even among the Khun Family's Princesses. She's the only person to have been selected as a 13 Month Princess in the history of the Family.

Top 15 High Rankers Character Profiles (Khun Eduan)

One of his daughter, Koon Maschenny Zahard, is the owner of the Yellow May, and is the only princess of Zahard in his family who is given one of the 13 month weapons.

Source

SIU Q & As (13 Month Princesses)

Yellow May (Koon Maschenny Zahard) Koon family's only princess.

Source

If we leave it to Cinera Maschenny cleans the floor with Enryuu and Phanta with just one finger. lmao

I don't even think she's Top 30, so stop the nonsense.

Youre right they arent on the same lvl prime white is waaayyy stronger than maschenny

Prime white is comparable to kallavan who easily overpowered jinsung ha and held his own against 3 high rankers after

Plus khel hellam stated hes as strong as an entire squadron.

Prime White >>>>>>>>>>> Jinsung Ha > Maschenny

Delusional.

 

[zoradante1]

I wonder how strong they'd be if they still had V and Arlene

stronger than every group on tower and only equal to zahard.

 

[sazon]

He toyed with him throught entire fight.

White
the attack which destroyed Kallavan's arm (though his arm was already damaged) was destroyed with a single wave of his hand.

Even in close combat which is white's field, He was entirely supressed since baam was able to tank his attacks with his bare body

Wasn't able to cut,destroy or dispel "SINGLE" attack of baam and was only able to change the course of attacks.

Was made scream like a teenage girl after baam's attacks, "How much you are going to pour out!!".

Was at death's door and was entirely supressed in every second of fight yet White simps still insists on Cullinan being white's strongest sword and he wasn't doing his best in a fight which he was going to lose and was at death's door.

By the way White himself said Cullinan is the strongest sword he can "MAKE". On the other hand white pulled out a sword from Sheath which looks like a real sword compared to cullinan,it's quite likely the sword he used was a shinsu shape of Arie family members but he just powered up with souls which made his shinsu shape more stronger.
Cullinan is likely to created by only souls considering it doesn't look like a real sword at all,if we are talking about shape of cullinan it's a sword but it doesn't look like a sword at all. On the other hand the sword White used againist baam looked like a real sword and i'm confident Sword created by souls can't look like a real sword.

Cullinan > Souls
New sword > Shinsu shape? or weapon? with souls powered up.

But if you are going to still claim he wasn't able to toy with white just because of the last part which is absorbing and doesn't count as fight at all considering it was just a match about who is able to devour each other better,then your points are simply ridiculuous.

It was confirmed that Cullinan is White's toughest sword, the "strong" one was in that sense, translation issues.

Apparently the quincy sword is more lethal than it is.

 

[zoradante1]

Luslec might be hidden irregular tho. We know for a fact that the FH's weren't the only outsiders that entered the tower at the time. For example, Yeon Hana is celibate, but a relative of hers gives birth to the children in the family. So it's possible that Luslec entered as a follower of V. That's why it's implied the only ones that can stop him are FH's.

Luslec is born on 80th floor. It's impossible for him to become a irregular

 

[sazon]

Translated chapter, I'll put it here because I don't think a lot of people would see it in that post.

Tower Of God Chapter 517 - Alpha Scans

Bam, who was alone all his life has entered the tower to chase after his only friend, Rachel, but how will he survive without having any special strength or power?“What do you desire? Money and wealth? Honor and pride? Authority and power? Revenge? Or something that transcends them all? Whatever...

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[zoradante1]

It was confirmed that Cullinan is White's toughest sword, the "strong" one was in that sense, translation issues.

Apparently the quincy sword is more lethal than it is.

It was confirmed that cullinan is the strongest sword White can make not White's strongest sword. He made a sword with souls. On the other hand new sword was literally pulled out from sheath,so i don't think new sword was weaker than cullinan plus new sword looked like a real sword on the other hand cullinan looked transperent sword(soul). Sorry for bad english,but what i'm trying to say cullinan is a sword which is made with souls, on the other hand considering new sword was pulled out from a sheath i don't think white created this sword with souls,he might have powered up the sword but it's unlikely that it's a sword which is made with souls since every soul things was transperent(bow,sword). New sword looks like a real sword,plus it doesn't make sense for white to not use his strongest sword considering he was entirely supressed.

 

[nivoxtc]

From what moment Baam became so fat?
Was he eating fast food only?

 

[Chilly12]

Darkness shinsu is his own power not V's if it was from V then Eduan wouldn't be even nowhere near V at shinsu quality which is eduan's field. Darkness is Baam's shinsu quality and it's quite likely it's on a whole level compared to even irregulars considering it's related to baam's inner power (sun)

Nah the darkness shinsu is V's own trait. The proof is the black march which also has it.

The black march was for V

The golden november was for zahard who uses gold shinsu


Oh and when the sun power activates baam uses all his powers at the same time including the darkness its not the same power

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Delusional.

K.

 

[EternalWinter]

Tower Of God Chapter 517 - Alpha Scans

Bam, who was alone all his life has entered the tower to chase after his only friend, Rachel, but how will he survive without having any special strength or power?“What do you desire? Money and wealth? Honor and pride? Authority and power? Revenge? Or something that transcends them all? Whatever...

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Alpha Scans are out Mods. Please pin. Shinslation will be out later tonight

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Mas isn't actually loyal to Z. She's been playing all sorts of games behind the scenes. We very well known she could ally with both without any problems.



Also, could you remind me who Luch is.

Dowon’s Kuhn friend

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Son!? The only LPB son we know of is the 8th son controlling the snake!

Who do you think Spider-Man is then?

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Who do you think blinded his lighthouses?



No, that's exactly what she said:

Baam cannot take anyone's side, ergo, he cannot take her side.



White is also not someone that can take sides.

Maschenny is playing grand strategy with multiple Great Families. Someone of the calibre of White just isn't quite big enough to be a player on that board.

Maschenny was asking Lybolic what counter measure he had for white. I don’t think she was not worried. The simpler example is she can’t come to the table seeming worried. It’s called a poker face

 

[Jack Van Burace]

Doubt the shadow figure is Lo Po Bia Head. It is likely some branch ally, everyone with thousand eyes. Evankhell will likely shut this gate next chapter after clearing the area quickly. And then proceed to the other gateway perhaps. Or is Kallavan gonna save YHS and Lefav on the spot?

 

[zoradante1]

Nah the darkness shinsu is V's own trait. The proof is the black march which also has it.

The black march was for V

The golden november was for zahard who uses gold shinsu


Oh and when the sun power activates baam uses all his powers at the same time including the darkness its not the same power

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K.

Proof?

 

[EternalWinter]

He toyed with him throught entire fight.

White
the attack which destroyed Kallavan's arm (though his arm was already damaged) was destroyed with a single wave of his hand.

Even in close combat which is white's field, He was entirely supressed since baam was able to tank his attacks with his bare body

Wasn't able to cut,destroy or dispel "SINGLE" attack of baam and was only able to change the course of attacks.

Was made scream like a teenage girl after baam's attacks, "How much you are going to pour out!!".

Was at death's door and was entirely supressed in every second of fight yet White simps still insists on Cullinan being white's strongest sword and he wasn't doing his best in a fight which he was going to lose and was at death's door.

By the way White himself said Cullinan is the strongest sword he can "MAKE". On the other hand white pulled out a sword from Sheath which looks like a real sword compared to cullinan,it's quite likely the sword he used was a shinsu shape of Arie family members but he just powered up with souls which made his shinsu shape more stronger.
Cullinan is likely to created by only souls considering it doesn't look like a real sword at all,if we are talking about shape of cullinan it's a sword but it doesn't look like a sword at all. On the other hand the sword White used againist baam looked like a real sword and i'm confident Sword created by souls can't look like a real sword.

Cullinan > Souls
New sword > Shinsu shape? or weapon? with souls powered up.

But if you are going to still claim he wasn't able to toy with white just because of the last part which is absorbing and doesn't count as fight at all considering it was just a match about who is able to devour each other better,then your points are simply ridiculuous.

He said Cullinan was his strongest sword, he said he was making his SHARPEST sword vs Baam. And in entire case baam was losing to Demonic white before he got help. You’re the only one still harping on this despite the evidence and you’re still the one who is wrong. It’s not simping it’s called having eyes

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Doubt the shadow figure is Lo Po Bia Head. It is likely some branch ally, everyone with thousand eyes. Evankhell will likely shut this gate next chapter after clearing the area quickly. And then proceed to the other gateway perhaps. Or is Kallavan gonna save YHS and Lefav on the spot?

It’s pretty clearly the spider leader

he may be a son though

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Lusclec is not FH lvl btw

Neither is adori

Normal ppl use contracts for shinsu while irregulars dont.
The difference is night and day

Example:
Urek no shinsu and with pure physical strenght can make tsunamis and rock high rankers at 1~10%

Thats why baam is so important to fug and khel hellam said hes the only one who can turn things around

And yet irregulars can lose fights to regulars. Baam has lost battles before lol

 

[paulbee]

I don't think so, princesses have been known to keep each other in line. Anak was killed by another princess, Garam killed her sister, heck even Mas herself was part of the Enne subjugation squad. Adori is the most powerful Jahad princess and she even has a high standing in Jahads army to boot. On top of seeming fiercely loyal to Jahad, I don't think she'd need anyone's permission to even put Mas down permanently if she really wanted to.

There is supposedly an administrator permitting the game and could be sending participants based on need! To be fair Lefav was only aware of Ryb’s portal and not of the 2nd!

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Adori can go after Mas whenever she likes, since they are both princesses!!!

I THINK PRINCESSES CAN SQUABLE AND HAVE LITTLE FIGHTS AMONGST THEMSELVES:- Anything beyond that has to come from Zahard, and most of the time he just can't be bothered. The army can't touch a princess unless an Edict is issued from Zahard, and Zahard would usually stay aloof from such things unless well known boundaries are crossed.

 

[EternalWinter]

Luslec is born on 80th floor. It's impossible for him to become a irregular

Almost impossible. If you clone an irregular, is the clone an irregular too? If so Luslec could be “born” on floor 80 and be Zahad’s clone

 

[Turtle hunter]

Maschenny chose to make a wager with Yuri instead of just killing her. That means the fallout from killing Yuri is not something Maschenny would want to deal with.

1. There's no basis for Maschenny not knowing that Baam defeated White.
2. If Maschenny did not know that Baam bear White, then she was telling White that he was too weak to ally with her.

No. Maschenny can both think that Baam is a beast in absolute terms, and simultaneously think that he's not on her level.

There's no contradiction there.

What type off logic it is .

Maschenny clearly wasn’t talking about FUG side .

if not that would mean she deemed Karaka , Yama , Evankhell , Doom and White unworthy in front off her which is ridiculous .

Jinsung is recognising Maschenny as an existence that is vastly more dangerous than he could have ever imagined:

Both twins are women.

that sentence can meà so many thing .

it really prove nothing

 

[Chilly12]

Proof?

Of what the black march? It may not be specifically stated but its pretty much out there.

V and Zahard were implied to be rivals.

Zahard is a needle user with golden shinsu
Therefore obviously the golden november (without a doubt a needle) was his 13th month.

Then you have black march another needle that has black shinsu like baams so its kinda easy to see it was meant for his dad and the author didnt give baam a random 13 month.

 

[salo14419]

Lemme help you with that:

A Princess who is a direct descendent of one of the 10 House Heads is especially influential and powerful.

If a Princess is from one of the 10 Families, she will become the central power of that Family in the future

Context matters. Otherwise is just headcannon. Do we know if this already happened or not? "in the future" means something, you know? You can't just take whatever part benefits your narrative and ignore everything else. That's not nice.

Furthermore, Maschenny is very special even among the Khun Family's Princesses. She's the only person to have been selected as a 13 Month Princess in the history of the Family.

And this is relevant because... why? Adori is not the only person in her family that has been selected as a 13 Month Princess, that means Maschenny > Adori or what? Have you ever considered the fact that Edhuan not giving a fuck about anything that is not wives and booze having something to do with that and not your grand schemes about Maschenny being unique and special?

 

[Chilly12]

He said Cullinan was his strongest sword, he said he was making his SHARPEST sword vs Baam. And in entire case baam was losing to Demonic white before he got help. You’re the only one still harping on this despite the evidence and you’re still the one who is wrong. It’s not simping it’s called having eyes

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It’s pretty clearly the spider leader

he may be a son though

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And yet irregulars can lose fights to regulars. Baam has lost battles before lol

Because he hasnt reached his full potential yet and he always fights ppl way over him i mean hes a regular and just beat white a top high ranker

 

[Turtle hunter]

Who do you think blinded his lighthouses?



No, that's exactly what she said:

Baam cannot take anyone's side, ergo, he cannot take her side.



White is also not someone that can take sides.

Maschenny is playing grand strategy with multiple Great Families. Someone of the calibre of White just isn't quite big enough to be a player on that board.

No she isn’t .

you know it , i know it , everyone knows it .

she can’t play with them .

i am sure jahad and the other GW are looking at her trick as silly joke and that they don’t give a fuck .

sure she is outstanding in ter off scheming if we out itregular , but irregular can see fate , hence all Maschenny action are pointless .

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There is really nothing that prove Maschenny is even on par with Jinsung .

not even saying that she is superior to a CC , saying she is CC level is pure headcannon and based on no real proof .

 

[paulbee]

THE POWER SITUATION INSIDE THE TOWER :-

The reasons Zahard can't act out wantonly are:

1) The administrators, however their rules and bottom lines are well understood.
2) The Family Heads Zahard can't go against more than one at a time. Gustang has no friends because everyone has a beef against him.
3)There are 3 MASSIVELY POWERFUL Irregulars sitting very quietly in the Tower, who are also very Bam friendly. Zahard knows that theses 3 can kiull him or wreck hi empire easily.