Wonder if Zagred could make the Soul Chain DeathMatch vanish with his word soul magic if he gets hit by it.
Julius immobilizes him in a sphere and wins.Magna vs Julius
Should Magna challenge Mereolona in what is probably her ideal battleground?Magna vs Mereoleona
In theory, it would be enough for Zagred to make the chain disappear.Magna vs Zagred
See MereoMagna vs Yami
Exactly what advantage would the chain bring against Asta?Magna vs Union Asta
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AstaAsta vs Luck
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Asta vs Julius ?
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Vanica gets utterly destroyed.Lumiere vs Vanica?
factsVanica gets utterly destroyed.
They still destroy. I have Vanica = Dante.facts
what about lumiere against dante or zenon? (100%)
factsThey still destroy. I have Vanica = Dante.
I don’t consider any of the current baddies barring the demon Mereoleona fought any where near the top tiers since most of them are losing to the likes of Asta, Noelle, Yuno, Magna, etc. who are pre-prime/in-training characters who still have a lot of learning to do. These guys will only reach Julius/Lumiere/Mereoleona tier at EOS.facts
what about lumiere and licht against lilith and naamah?
factsI don’t consider any of the current baddies barring the demon Mereoleona fought any where near the top tiers since most of them are losing to the likes of Asta, Noelle, Yuno, Magna, etc. who are pre-prime/in-training characters who still have a lot of learning to do. These guys will only reach Julius/Lumiere/Mereoleona tier at EOS.
Julius and Lumiere are EOS benchmarks for Asta and Yuno. Mereo is an EOS benchmark for Noelle.
I kinda agree but I have Mereo in that category as well.facts
imo licht,lumiere and julius are still top 3 strongest, licht>julius>lumiere or julius>licht>lumiere
eh u can have her wherever u want idrc as long as u believe that licht,julius and lumiere>everyone elseI kinda agree but I have Mereo in that category as well.
I have them > everyone else except Mereoeh u can have her wherever u want idrc as long as u believe that licht,julius and lumiere>everyone else
Asta clapsAsta
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Zagred vs Dante??
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Julius vs Licht?
Lumiere vs Vanica?
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why is this thread so dead btws?
asta gets speedblitzed and time locked without DU, with DU julius simply outlasts him and once DUs time is over julius time locks him againAsta claps
Dante
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Power scaling wise Vanica > Lumiere
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imo mereo is one of the weakest characters but i can respect that since at least u dont downplay licht,lumiere and juliusI have them > everyone else except Mereo
Julius was relative in speed to pre elf reincarnation, pre dark elf patri. Asta was able to not get speed blitzed by dark elf patri pre timeskip. Post timeskip Asta definitely does not get speed blitzed by Julius.asta gets speedblitzed and time locked without DU, with DU julius simply outlasts him and once DUs time is over julius time locks him again
Imo post grimoire zagred>>>>zagred without his grimoire=100% dante
how come? by scaling lumiere blitzes
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imo mereo is one of the weakest characters but i can respect that since at least u dont downplay licht,lumiere and julius
julius was much faster then asta even in pre timeskip, he has the best speed feat in the series by protecting the entire country from thousands of light beams from patri, besides julius can just accelerate time making himself faster ggJulius was relative in speed to pre elf reincarnation, pre dark elf patri. Asta was able to not get speed blitzed by dark elf patri pre timeskip. Post timeskip Asta definitely does not get speed blitzed by Julius.
How do you come to the conclusion that 100% Dante is equal to pre grimoire zagred? Considering 50% dante folded post timeskip black Asta, I don't see how that's justifiable at all.
Vanica is relative to the other triad, who scale above Zagred, who scales above Lumiere.
Julius couldn't catch Patri, and the two were relative in speed. That was before Patri got two big power ups. After Patri got those power ups, Asta was able to not get speed blitzed. Then there was a timeskip where Asta got massively stronger, before again getting a huge amp with the devil union. Asta stomps Julius in devil union (and probably without).julius was much faster then asta even in pre timeskip, he has the best speed feat in the series by protecting the entire country from thousands of light beams from patri, besides julius can just accelerate time making himself faster gg
astas fight against zagred was plot because pre grimoire zagred scales a little bit above asleep licht who was destroying asta + yuno combined effortlessly, and dante at 100% is fodder to lilith and naamah (like it was stated by nacht that lilith and naamah were on a completely different level then him + lilith and naamah wanted to play with him) and lilith and naamah are the weakest of the highest ranking devils, making 100% dante only a high ranking devil on the same level as zagred, but zagred got stronger when he got his grimoire
zagred doesn't scales above lumiere lol
prime lumiere>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>sealed lumiere>>>>>>>>>>>>post grimoire zagred>>>>>pre grimoire zagred=100% Vanica