I guess I didn't make my point clear enough. Those opponents might not be fodders but they're in no way stronger than Laxus. My point is that Laxus, when he's got no one else to rely on, has never fought any opponent that's tiers above himself. The only one among major protagonists.
Which I countered with the Jura fight, lol. Laxus was on par with Orga. An had to raise to the occasion with the Jura fight. Hence the whole him also getting slammed during his first rush.
But I think people realized back during GMG arc that Laxus had always been more or less on the same tier with Jellal and Jura right? People came to the conclusion back in the days that Laxus fought on par with Orga only because of the DS to GS disadvantage.
I mean, we found on Tenrou that Laxus was on the same tier as opponents like Blue Note and Gildarts and Hades, but it’s still a tier. He and Orga had to be comparable for the slayer advantage to kick in, as we’ve seen from the other GS in the series battles. An Jellal had to debut his only good guy spell stronger than chariot. So we know he’s closer to Laxus and Orga end of the tier as well. Laxus beating Jura, who is directly compared to Gildarts was shown to require him pulling out all the stops. It was a big battle, and he was on the back foot for the most of it. An by hype Orga=Minerva the only ones stated to be strongest in the guild. If you can find that claim for Rufus let me know, also feel free to just explain what in the world gave you that idea lol.
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Yeah, no. Kiria matched Erza blow for blow, she literally broke her red pants blade and forced her to reveal the special sword she used on Laxus. Please put that “only hax” excuse to rest. All the way. Same for Madmole and Skullion. Mira found a way to damage him, Elfman found a way to damage him. Natsu had to get creative but he did (and Madmole ate that shit…) Gray is the only one who simply didn’t rise to the occasion at all. Those victories were earned, and valid. Laxus just beat they asses because the gap is real. Always has been
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That would make sense. Human Acno Vs. Dragon Mercphobia would be an interesting match
What? Laxus was just testing Ogra lol. They were having lightning vs lighting match. Laxus later went onto extreme diff the dude that stomped Ogra.
Well, to make things clear, it was only stated that Orga was the strongest in Sabertooth only when it comes to attack power. But we all know offensive power isn't everything. His defensive power/speed/durability/stamina/intel were all pretty much bullshit level. Something like a glass cannon, but worse.
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Well, to make things clear, it was only stated that Orga was the strongest in Sabertooth only when it comes to attack power. But we all know offensive power isn't everything. His defensive power/speed/durability/stamina/intel were all pretty much bullshit level. Something like a glass cannon, but worse.
It's not your fault anyways, just bad translation.
It was stated multiple times in the beginning of the GMG arc that Sting and Rogue were the ace of the guild (and that's because Minerva didn't come out most cases in previous GMG events). Once it was even directly stated that Orga < Sting (can't remember who made that statement though).
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It's actually very easy to defeat someone whose only advantage is raw attack power - dodge his attacks and speedblitz him. That's exactly what Jura did. Much easier to dodge it than to tank it. Even if you have Acno level attack power, if it can't hit any opponent, it means nothing. Remember Wahl Ehito's Etherion
Like I said it was just bad translation, IIRC in Japanese raw it only said he was the best in attack powerNah, even ignoring the statements from the MPF chapter, Orga was the most powerful member of Sabertooth, with the likely exception of Minerva. Sting and Rogue were weaker, they were the ace of Sabertooth in the same way Natsu the Salamander was for Fairy Tail. Reputable, but ultimately not in the upper echelons of power.
Orga was just beaten quickly because Jura was a beast at the time, too powerful for anyone to handle really.
Well he took physical attacks from Laxus as well, so he does have some impressive dura too.
That doesn’t state she’s the strongest though. An it explicitly says she’s stronger than the Twin Dragons, but it doesn’t say she’s the strongest in the guild. An greatest isn’t a direct comment on strength either.Minerva was called the strongest of Sabertooth when she was in the guild with Jura (chapter 312).
Orga was called the strongest member of Sabertooth in a chapter when Minerva already left and joined Succubus Eye (chapter 350).
Minerva > Orga
The fact that she is called the greatest would imply that she's above the other 4 of the 5 strongest mages in the guild which includes Orga (Minerva, Orga, Rufus, Sting & Rogue are the 5 strongest according to the manga).
No comment because I'm not really part of this discussion.