Hangout Mokushiroku no Yonkishi Hangout Thread

[Brim787]

What do you guys think of the sequel so far? Imo it's extremely mid.

I’m enjoying every step of the way. It’s teaching me a lot as a Writer.

 

[Samael Morningstar]

What do you guys think of the sequel so far? Imo it's extremely mid.

The first few chapters were really really good but then it got mid, some chapters in between were great tho. But yeah overall quite decent
I would give it 6 or 7 out of 10 for now

 

[Giji Paw]

What do you guys think of the sequel so far? Imo it's extremely mid.

The first part of the story was going very well and at a good pace, but i feel like it's been stuck for a while (i don't deny that new things happened like the appearance of Howzer, Gowther or the development of the characters there) but the whole thing of the horsemen is abandoned since its mention, and it is as if nothing happened.

Of course, by being fewer characters, Nakaba can extend the mystery more, but i don't know if this could be detrimental later.

 

[HereNThere]

What do you guys think of the sequel so far? Imo it's extremely mid.

I'm of the same opinion.

Aside from the fact that I'm more aware of Nakaba's habits as an author, the major strengths of NNT are pretty weak here.

Characters aren't as interesting as the Sins. Their dynamic as a team isn't to engaging since they get along in a pretty generic way. The intrigue isn't too well...intriguing.

I'm along for the ride, but the trip hasn't impressed me so far.

 

[trallya]

What do you guys think of the sequel so far? Imo it's extremely mid.

The sequel looks like a bad joke. After Nakaba finished the original manga and received feedback from readers, in which many spoke about the objective problems of the manga, he did not fix the situation, but only makes it worse. That is, literally, he did not conclude that a strong character should look really strong, he continues a ridiculous farce in which a hole in the ground is called an incredible manifestation of the power of the enemy. Twigo seemed more imposing than the opponents of the current protagonists. This is not to mention the fact that Naciens, Donnie and Ann are garbage extras who cannot be given logical justifications in battles with strong opponents. Instead of centering the story around the Knights of the Apocalypse, he centers it around ordinary people whose subsequent victories will look worse than the victories of the heroes in Fairy Tail.

 

[Vortigern]

The lead color pages are for next week's chapter, which suggests that the Sin reveal will indeed happen in this week's chapter. However, it could be a situation similar to what we had with Gowther recently where the reveal wasn't totally explicit, even though most people could still recognize the character based solely on his mannerisms.

What do you guys think of the sequel so far? Imo it's extremely mid.

I'm liking it a lot so far. The sequel seems to be leaning more strongly into the Arthurian elements of the setting, which I think is going to result in some interesting stuff with the Knights of the Round Table and the Grail Quest. The more traditional hero's journey formula that the sequel is following is a good fit for a story like this. NNT had a much less conventional beginning in that the main characters started out as an already legendary group of knights with the skills and experience to match their reputation. Unfortunately this also resulted in some problems since it made you question whether the early enemies were really a threat at all, and required some plot contrivances such as the Sins conveniently misplacing their Sacred Treasures or Meliodas withholding key information from the rest of the cast. I think the sequel benefits from the existence of NNT since the opposite premises allow you to contrast the two and serve to highlight the differences between the Sins and the new group. I also like how the typical trope of the 'legendary heroes that predate the main characters' works in the sequel, because we are actually familiar with who these heroes are and what they have accomplished.

At this point I'm just hoping that Nakaba learned from his earlier mistakes with powercreep. One of the major issues I had with NNT was how the arrival of the Ten Commandments essentially made the majority of the cast completely helpless and resulted in Escanor and Meliodas having to carry everyone else. I also want Nakaba to steer clear from literal powerlevels and all the nonsense those brought with them. The way he's instead opting the classify characters' powers into different categories might suggest that the sequel is going to be more about the right matchups than just having the biggest numbers in your base stats. We already saw something like this in the fights against the Dark Talismans, all of which involved some form of compatibility between the combatants' magics. At the very least him fleshing out of the magic system like this gives me the impression that Nakaba has put a little more thought into the sequel, which might save it from going through the same kind of decline that NNT experienced over time.

 

[FKS]

Title of next chapter: Lancelot.
As expected.

And, as we already know, colors next week.

 

[Demonspeed]

Title of next chapter: Lancelot.
As expected.

And, as we already know, colors next week.

Nice!!!

I was really overthinking .

 

[Vortigern]

The chapter is out.

 

[Demonspeed]

Damn! This is an Escanor level entrance!

 

[Bastian]

The chapter is out.

How nice of you to leave the link at the last page.
Fuck this reveal with a passion

 

[FKS]

How nice of you to leave the link at the last page.
Fuck this reveal with a passion

Fixed the link.

 

[HereNThere]

Boy's rockin' his uncle's fit, so he's already starting strong in my book.

 

[Meliodaf]

Automatic great chapter since Lancelot revealed himself. I wonder what happened to Jericho though

 

[Killerbee12]

Great chapter, and worth the wait

 

[Demonspeed]

And these techniques... He uses Hokuto Shinken.

I don't remember someone killing this way in NNT.

 

[Rizaadxn]

Nice chapter. I really like his design.

Seems like a bow is his main weapon of choice? At least for the time being.

 

[Vortigern]

I like how the reveal ties everything together. Sin being Lancelot connects to the vision of the bride and the three syllable name she spoke. Sin's knowledge about the secretive Dark Talismans is the result of him reading their hearts. His attitude towards humans makes sense given how he's not fully one of them himself. He dismissed the arrow that killed Talisker's doll because it was his handiwork. He's familiar with Gowther because they've met before. His comment about being 3000 years old is a nod towards Meliodas whom he works for and potentially admires after Gowther showed him the full story of the Sins. Lancelot taking on the form of a fox and calling himself Sin is a reference to his father's title. Most of these hints don't point to Lancelot specifically, but they did allow you to narrow down the possible candidates to the point that Lancelot emerged as the favorite one among the fanbase. I think that's proof that the whole process was well executed, but I will say that Nakaba could have stopped the teasing a little earlier too. The only mystery that remains now (at least as far as I can remember) is whether Sin claiming that Sistana was saved by "the animals in the forest" was literally him summoning some kind of creatures to help or just a joke about him defeating them all by himself since he's technically a creature of the forest as well.

On the topic of Lancelot's abilities, in this chapter he didn't display anything like the attacks we saw destroying the Chaos monsters in chapter 21. Those monsters were killed by a beam of energy that somehow struck them from below while blitzing through the town. Lancelot's powers seem to include creating arrows and somehow launching them at his opponents even in fox form, so the attack in Sistana certainly could have been just a special arrow, but there is a chance that there could be something more to it as well. I'm a little unsure whether the page where Sin dodged the wind blades was supposed to be him moving really quickly or if that was actually the idea of one of the KOA "not having a fixed form" taken to its logical conclusion. Instead of just shapeshifting like King and Helbram, it seems like Lancelot might be able to change his body's shape however he wants. No idea how the melee attack connects to any of this or if it's even part of the same magic since there is no obvious theme there. Being able to damage someone's internal organs with a touch is really overpowered, not to mention gruesome. I wonder if he's also able to channel that same attack through his spear, which he has replaced with a bow for some reason. I expected Tristan to be the archer of the group since his namesake is known for that, but I don't mind this approach either.

Design-wise Lancelot looks alright. Nakaba followed the same pattern with him and Tristan in that the teenage version is almost identical to the child version, even down to the clothes. He also doesn't look much like any of the silhouettes, but given what happened with the Sins' wanted posters this isn't very surprising. I do believe that the silhouettes could become relevant later on if there is a timeskip, which is not too uncommon in this type of shounen especially in cases where the main characters start out as teenagers. In NNT Nakaba clearly favored slightly more adult protagonists, so I don't see him going from that to a group where everyone is exactly 16 years old. It's actually pretty weird that everyone just so happens to be the same age, so I'm expecting that to be its own plot point. Something happened 16 years ago that I guess in some way scheduled the Apocalypse to happen.

With 4 of the 5 Dark Talismans now dead, it's looking very likely that Fiddich will join his comrades soon enough. He's easily the most competent member of the group, but it still feels like he's not going to be much of a threat to Lancelot. I'm curious whether Pellegarde is going to step up as the actual boss fight of the arc or if he's just going to spy on the massacre from the shadows.

How nice of you to leave the link at the last page.
Fuck this reveal with a passion

Oh shit, I didn't realize that the address changes based on the page that is currently open. I'm sorry if I ruined the reveal for you.

 

[The Prince of Darkness]

I love Lancelot design !
As almost everyone had guessed Sin was him... but why did Meliodas made him hide his identity?!
Lancelot might not know it yet but I'm sure Meliodas knew he's a KoA.

Maybe he became Sin and decide to take the long raod with Percy so he could develop and mature him more.
Kinda funny how he's been hyping Percival and his magic when he's actually far stronger than him.
He's strong and ruthless like his dad.

Now I believe since Lancelot was ordered by Mel to find Percy, Tristan was probably tasked to find the other one, if he wasn't with known already.

The "Friends of the Forest" he called to eliminate the Choas Monsters were probably Tristan and maybe the other KoA.
Seeing how strong he seems to be I can't wait to see Tristan who's either equal to him or stronger.
Percy's probably the weakest of the KoA right now.

I loved the chapter, 10/10

 

[HereNThere]

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