Conditional Gray Fullbuster vs. Wendy Marvell

[Seven777]

Wendy > Haku >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Skullion >>>>> Gray.

Y'all on some copium overdose if you think Gray isn't getting fodderized.

Coming from the guy who thinks she can actually damage the labyrinth when Natsu and Suzaku couldn't lmao? Sure, we're on the copium

 

[Lucy>Wendy&Elfman]

I feel like Gray vs Hakune is forgotten feat from 100YQ

 

[Jko]

Coming from the guy who thinks she can actually damage the labyrinth when Natsu and Suzaku couldn't lmao? Sure, we're on the copium

I mean she has onscreen feats of doing so while the other two don't lol.

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Elentir feats don't hold weight on Earthland lol

 

[Lucy>Wendy&Elfman]

I mean she has onscreen feats of doing so while the other two don't lol.

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Elentir feats don't hold weight on Earthland lol

And what about type advantages feats?

 

[Seven777]

I mean she has onscreen feats of doing so while the other two don't lol.

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Elentir feats don't hold weight on Earthland lol

She has onscreen feats of kicking up some dust and debris lol. Natsu does the same, the labyrinth is totally in tact after everything.

Suzaku's do. It's why Natsu specifically had to come up with a counter to stop himself from getting oneshot again.

 

[WoWfan]

Not really. Everything he did in the entire fight was pretty much just an expression of his love for Wendy. From willingly taking a roar to the face just because it was air coming out of Wendy's mouth, to cracking his head on the pavement because he was so excited about it, to getting close to Wendy so that he could touch her hand, to using Doll Parade to bind Wendy but not hurt her. This wasn't a fight to Haku, it was a game.

How type advantage? By not being turned into a Plushie. By turning his own Plushie's against him. Type advantage all the way through, Haku doesn't have a spell that can hurt Wendy, it's like a fire mage trying to fight Natsu.

He may have been smitten by Wendy, but he himself said he could not afford to lose as he would miss a chance to go on a date with her, so he had to use strength to win which involved the plushies or even exchanging fists, and even said he gotten serious. Not being turned into a plushie is not a type advantage, it is a counter to his hax, which didn’t include all of his spells, Irene did that, he basically did hurt her by sending her flying with a punch or holding her down with plushies, type advantage is her being unaffected by air based attacks.

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I never thought that the votes would be close in Gray vs Wendy thread.

Well when you defeat a DDK you rise up through the ranks.

 

[Steven]

Wendy stomps

She mid-diffed a DDSK.DDSK's shits on Skullion aka Grays Rival

Its beyond me how someone can vote for Gray who didnt do anything impressive in 100YQ

Wendy was able to react to Hakus speed and fought him even in terms of physical strength.

 

[WoWfan]

Coming from the guy who thinks she can actually damage the labyrinth when Natsu and Suzaku couldn't lmao? Sure, we're on the copium

Actually she did damage it here

https://v2.mangapark.net/manga/fairy-tail-100-years-quest-mashima-hiro/i2718509/c098/19

 

[Lucy>Wendy&Elfman]

Wendy stomps

She mid-diffed a DDSK.DDSK's shits on Skullion aka Grays Rival

Its beyond me how someone can vote for Gray who didnt do anything impressive in 100YQ

Wendy was able to react to Hakus speed and fought him even in terms of physical strength.

She mid-diffed because he was toying with her and because of type advantages.

Gray murders her.

 

[grey matter]

The arguments for Wendy have bypassed insanity at this point.

Haku is a fodder with hax, not uncommon in FT. How many times should Mashima introduce such characters before people get it? IDK

Most of the guys who are denying this are the same guys who acknowledged that Doom seed was a fodder with hax as well. Tells you everything we need to know here, blatantly pushing agenda as usual.

Wendy hard countered his hax.
And Haku was holding back for most of the fight, cause he liked Wendy.

It took a combination of hard counter + CIS for Haku to be taken down.

But, people wanna argue that Wendy hits leagues harder than RL Laxus and FDKM Natsu
Sure, you can continue on with this. We'll get to know from who all it's pointless expecting any sort of good faith debates/arguement.

 

[Lucy>Wendy&Elfman]

The arguments for Wendy have bypassed insanity at this point.

Haku is a fodder with hax, not uncommon in FT. How many times should Mashima introduce such characters before people get it? IDK

Most of the guys who are denying this are the same guys who acknowledged that Doom seed was a fodder with hax as well. Tells you everything we need to know here, blatantly pushing agenda as usual.

Wendy hard countered his hax.
And Haku was holding back for most of the fight, cause he liked Wendy.

It took a combination of hard counter + CIS for Haku to be taken down.

But, people wanna argue that Wendy hits leagues harder than RL Laxus and FDKM Natsu
Sure, you can continue on with this. We'll get to know from who all it's pointless expecting any sort of good faith debates/arguement.

Thank you!

 

[Jko]

She has onscreen feats of kicking up some dust and debris lol. Natsu does the same, the labyrinth is totally in tact after everything.

Suzaku's do. It's why Natsu specifically had to come up with a counter to stop himself from getting oneshot again.

He did not at all. Not once was there shown actual structural damage like Wendy did as shown with chunks of rocks coming directly from the ground.

Like I said, it was shown visually that he shattered a part of the floor. It wasn't just specks of white stuff here and there thrown up lol. You actually have zero proof to say there was no structural damage since we never saw the entire room Lily and Wendy were in to say so and we never saw where Haku landed as well lol. While Natsu and Suzaku both admitted to not being able to do so.

Suzaku and Natsu both failed to damage the Labyrinth at all. Not once was their a visual chunk of it actually being destroyed like with Wendy's Sky Drill. So again, the feats are not comparable. you have to be blind to ignore the direct showing of actual damage.

Also, I have to laugh at the fact you admit there was debris but somehow made some illogical excuse as to why it was there. How is it regular debris when it was torn directly from the ground of the labyrinth???? Since when were there even shown to be any sort of regular floor or rocks in the labyrinth in the first place??? It was literally stated that all the walls, ceiling, and floors are apart of the labyrinth.

She showed she destroyed the Labyrinth's floor directly on panel so she did it, point blank. This copium levels of debating. Not once was there a statement tht she did not destroy the floor. Not once has Haku been stated to be a BDSK bcs of stats and not once has he shown to be weak in them. There is also the fact that hax was never ever a factor for being a BDSK as well otherwise Wraith/Kiria would have been enlisted among them for their hax.And also Wendy wasn't the perfect counter for since him still could still use his stats and magic to fight back.

Make it make sense. You guys are grasping at straws at this point

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The arguments for Wendy have bypassed insanity at this point.

Haku is a fodder with hax, not uncommon in FT. How many times should Mashima introduce such characters before people get it? IDK

Most of the guys who are denying this are the same guys who acknowledged that Doom seed was a fodder with hax as well. Tells you everything we need to know here, blatantly pushing agenda as usual.

Wendy hard countered his hax.
And Haku was holding back for most of the fight, cause he liked Wendy.

It took a combination of hard counter + CIS for Haku to be taken down.

But, people wanna argue that Wendy hits leagues harder than RL Laxus and FDKM Natsu
Sure, you can continue on with this. We'll get to know from who all it's pointless expecting any sort of good faith debates/arguement.

 

[grey matter]

He did not at all. Not once was there shown actual structural damage like Wendy did as shown with chunks of rocks coming directly from the ground.

Like I said, it was shown visually that he shattered a part of the floor. It wasn't just specks of white stuff here and there thrown up lol. You actually have zero proof to say there was no structural damage since we never saw the entire room Lily and Wendy were in to say so and we never saw where Haku landed as well lol. While Natsu and Suzaku both admitted to not being able to do so.

Suzaku and Natsu both failed to damage the Labyrinth at all. Not once was their a visual chunk of it actually being destroyed like with Wendy's Sky Drill. So again, the feats are not comparable. you have to be blind to ignore the direct showing of actual damage.

Also, I have to laugh at the fact you admit there was debris but somehow made some illogical excuse as to why it was there. How is it regular debris when it was torn directly from the ground of the labyrinth???? Since when were there even shown to be any sort of regular floor or rocks in the labyrinth in the first place??? It was literally stated that all the walls, ceiling, and floors are apart of the labyrinth.

She showed she destroyed the Labyrinth's floor directly on panel so she did it, point blank. This copium levels of debating. Not once was there a statement tht she did not destroy the floor. Not once has Haku been stated to be a BDSK bcs of stats and not once has he shown to be weak in them. There is also the fact that hax was never ever a factor for being a BDSK as well otherwise Wraith/Kiria would have been enlisted among them for their hax.And also Wendy wasn't the perfect counter for since him still could still use his stats and magic to fight back.

Make it make sense. You guys are grasping at straws at this point

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"Wendy hits leagues harder than RL Laxus and FDKM Natsu. Look at these rocks!"

 

[WoWfan]

The arguments for Wendy have bypassed insanity at this point.

Haku is a fodder with hax, not uncommon in FT. How many times should Mashima introduce such characters before people get it? IDK

Most of the guys who are denying this are the same guys who acknowledged that Doom seed was a fodder with hax as well. Tells you everything we need to know here, blatantly pushing agenda as usual.

Wendy hard countered his hax.
And Haku was holding back for most of the fight, cause he liked Wendy.

It took a combination of hard counter + CIS for Haku to be taken down.

But, people wanna argue that Wendy hits leagues harder than RL Laxus and FDKM Natsu
Sure, you can continue on with this. We'll get to know from who all it's pointless expecting any sort of good faith debates/arguement.

Nothing suggests he has no feats besides hax as he said he was strong too and physically fast too. and to be fair, Doom did not say he was physically weak either and even defeated Wendy. Wendy can’t counter all hax, that is assumption, haku said he was taking it seriously since he gets to have a date with Wendy. It took Irene’s help to give Wendy the time to take him down. Also Natsu did not use FDKM, just fire of the FDK.
Let me ask you something, can Gray break the stone of the labyrinth?

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She mid-diffed because he was toying with her and because of type advantages.

Gray murders her.

He wasn’t really toying, he was winning until Irene intervened, he practically had her pinned down, and if she can’t continue to fight in that state she would lose. They don’t have the type advantage, Haku doesn’t have air magic

 

[Steven]

She mid-diffed because he was toying with her and because of type advantages.

Oh yeah,thats the face of someone who´s toying with you

Spoiler

What type advantages?Even if Haku is physicaly the weakest of the DDSK,its just minuscale.I have no reason to believe Haku is a weakling outside of his Hax.Especially after he tanked Wendy's Sky Dragon Roar without taking damage.

Gray murders her.

The Ice deadweight cant even murders skullion but somehow he can murders Wendy who mid-diffed a DDSK?

 

[Lucy>Wendy&Elfman]

Nothing suggests he has no feats besides hax as he said he was strong too and physically fast too. and to be fair, Doom did not say he was physically weak either and even defeated Wendy. Wendy can’t counter all hax, that is assumption, haku said he was taking it seriously since he gets to have a date with Wendy. It took Irene’s help to give Wendy the time to take him down. Also Natsu did not use FDKM, just fire of the FDK.
Let me ask you something, can Gray break the stone of the labyrinth?

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He wasn’t really toying, he was winning until Irene intervened, he practically had her pinned down, and if she can’t continue to fight in that state she would lose. They don’t have the type advantage, Haku doesn’t have air magic

Wendy

Oh yeah,thats the face of someone who´s toying with you

Spoiler

What type advantages?Even if Haku is physicaly the weakest of the DDSK,its just minuscale.I have no reason to believe Haku is a weakling outside of his Hax.Especially after he tanked Wendy's Sky Dragon Roar without taking damage.


The Ice deadweight cant even murders skullion but somehow he can murders Wendy who mid-diffed a DDSK?

Gray couldn't defeat Skullion because of his ash hax and because he turned the sea in ashes to finish Gray quickly, something he couldn't with Mirajane and Elfman.

Wendy would be one-shotted by Kyria again without Irene's help.

 

[Shoutmon]

I'm actually gonna give this one to Gray, high-mid to high-diff.

Wendy's definitely grown in terms of power, so I don't see Gray just destroying her anymore, but I'm gonna chalk her ground-breaking feat up as an outlier as despite me joking about the manga's powerscaling a few chapter threads ago, I don't really think it's messed up to the point of telling us that Wendy is now physically stronger than anyone in the labyrinth bar Ignia and maybe DF Natsu

 

[Lucy>Wendy&Elfman]

This Wendy overplay is even worse than back in Alvarez.

 

[WoWfan]

Wendy


Gray couldn't defeat Skullion because of his ash hax and because he turned the sea in ashes to finish Gray quickly, something he couldn't with Mirajane and Elfman.

Wendy would be one-shotted by Kyria again without Irene's help.

Wendy is too strong for Kyria right now if Kyria can't cut the stone of the labyrinth either when Wendy can break the stone.

 

[Rigel]

Wendy is too strong for Kyria right now if Kyria can't cut the stone of the labyrinth either when Wendy can break the stone.

Didn't Ignia say in chapter that humans can't damage the labyrinth? Suzaku and Natsu that they have attack power far higher to Wendy's feats are not capable of causing damage to walls.

So the scene against Haku was just a matter of drawing. There was no comment from Irene or any other characters about Wendy damaging the maze.