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[Meliodaf]

I figure Lancelot is the boy with no defined shape. The one with golden magic (Sunshine?) should be the fourth KoA.

I’m just hoping it never comes back. Its honestly the magical ability I dislike the most. I know it will be back but I’m against it.

 

[Samael Morningstar]

The thing is Sunshine has never been coloured in golden/yellow colour! Its colour is apparently "White"

And here we have a sun ray ... I see no golden colour there!

The colour Gold is always associated with the sun, so golden magic is most definitely pointing towards Sunshine ability

 

[baditz]

Where that come tristan kill Mel n Eli?

 

[HHellenn]

Like I said, this is just a speculation. There's absolutely no evidence supporting it.

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Coincidence? I guess not!

Speaking of "Falling Stars", remember this?

And here and there again a reference to Rising Impact. The more often Nakaba does this, the more it seems that the fourth is Gawain.

 

[Rikudou King]

I actually forgot that Tristan could read minds, which explain why he was so knowledgeable about things. And while i did enjoy the fight, kind of sad that he didn't employ any of his archery. So since it appears that he's looking for two people, seems like he does have a reason to keep traveling with the group.

Camelot was wiped out by the Demon King when he possessed Meliodas. It was the result of the storm attack that only Ban managed to withstand due to his Purgatory training. That probably also contributed to the hatred Arthur's knights have towards the non-human clans.

Presumably the Camelot we currently know of was rebuilt right after the previous series, and there's really no other reason it would be "gone" unless there had been some conflict after the point we know of. After all, Arthur left on good terms with Meliodas after the situation with Chaos. And based on Ardbeg's flashback, it appears he was recruited after Arthur became evil and began plotting against the non-human races. So it definitely seems as if there was some conflict between the end of the previous series and the start of this one that led to the current opposing sides.

 

[Ann Firestar]

Like I said, this is just a speculation. There's absolutely no evidence supporting it.

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Coincidence? I guess not!

Speaking of "Falling Stars", remember this?

I like how all of the sudden the most important detail from NNT to current events are tags on the bottles…
The “bar theme” is living up to it’s importance, I guess.

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Lancelot managed to live up to his claim that nobody who has fought him has lived to tell the tale, but I'm guessing Pellegarde's arrival will end up complicating things. It's possible that Pellegarde won't actually try to engage him, but even just witnessing this slaughter would be enough for the Knights of Chaos to learn of Lancelot's existence and perhaps recognize him as one of the Knights of the Apocalypse. It would be easy to make Pellegarde into Lancelot's nemesis among Arthur's knights, similar to the dynamic between Ironside and Percival, but it seems like Lancelot might already have a nemesis. The knight with the star-shaped visor debuted all the way back in chapter 5 and was drawn with almost as much detail as Ironside and Pellegarde. He's bound to be important, but I suppose he doesn't necessarily have to be an enemy. The Q&As mentioned that quite a few of Arthur's knights have defected, so he could very well be a spy that Lancelot wants to get in contact with.

Spoiler: Star knight

We already pointed that guy out, because of his black cloak, that highlights him in mass of other KoC.
I don’t think it’s Jericho, but it’s someone who ends up with our heroes against Arthur.

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I think Lancelot is “the mysterious lad with no fixed appearance”, because if he was the one with golden magic, someone would have pointed that out.
(Also, I think Nakaba calls “golden” darker colour than yellow. That’s because of Merlin, whose eyes was described as “golden” but most of the time look more like “very light brown”)

 

[Vortigern]

Immediate crack theory, Jericho's the Star Knight and Lancelot's trying to find her.

It would explain why Lancelot is looking for that knight, but I feel like having Jericho infiltrate Arthur's knights would be very risky considering the two have met and even spoken to each other before. Then again, Jericho is a pretty ballsy woman, so who knows.

They said in the chapter that the arrows wouldn't be fast enough so that's why he used another attack.

Yeah I get that, but I was wondering why Lancelot didn't use his bow and arrows to launch his attack. So instead of this energy beam that travels on the ground, he would have shot an energy beam that travels in the air. I guess Lancelot's attack may have been something that specifically requires a melee weapon to use? Alternatively it could be that the attack is based on his fairy side and utilizes some kind of plant energy that's only present in the ground.

Presumably the Camelot we currently know of was rebuilt right after the previous series, and there's really no other reason it would be "gone" unless there had been some conflict after the point we know of. After all, Arthur left on good terms with Meliodas after the situation with Chaos. And based on Ardbeg's flashback, it appears he was recruited after Arthur became evil and began plotting against the non-human races. So it definitely seems as if there was some conflict between the end of the previous series and the start of this one that led to the current opposing sides.

I see where you're coming from, but it's stated in chapter 6 that Camelot was obliterated by a single attack from the leader of the demons and that Arthur went into hiding after that. It's a bit weird how this supposedly happened 16 years ago even though the Demon King was defeated around 18 years ago, but that's probably just a minor error on Nakaba's part. Ardbeg's story reinforces this idea, because in chapter 36 he hints at losing his daughter during the holy war and in chapter 38 we learn that it was the result of some demons attacking his village. Arthur recruited him immediately after that, which would have been in the aftermath of the holy war. I don't know how Arthur turned evil that quickly, but that's what the timeline suggests. It's worth noting that when he recruited Ardbeg, Arthur was wearing the same outfit he wore in Cursed by Light. That movie takes place 6 months after the defeat of Demon King and in that movie we see Arthur building a massive graveyard in the ruins of Camelot. The castle, presumably Camelot, where the Knights of Chaos gather in chapter 6 is like this mini planet floating in the void, so instead of rebuilding the kingdom like normal it seems that Arthur just created a secret kingdom inside some kind of a pocket dimension. As far as most people are concerned, Camelot is just gone at this point.

I think Lancelot is “the mysterious lad with no fixed appearance”, because if he was the one with golden magic, someone would have pointed that out.

To be fair Lancelot only showcased his magic at the very end of the chapter and there wasn't much time for anyone to react to it. However, the fact that Fiddich highlighted Lancelot's ability to transform so freely certainly gives me the impression that he's indeed supposed to be the lad with no fixed appearance. That wouldn't be a notable trait if one of the other knights could do it too, just like how Percival will probably be the only one with bird-like hair and Tristan the only one with powers of light and darkness.

 

[Tristan]

@Vortigern
Lancelot's Shining Road is a beam of "Light" not of "energy" (I know that light is basically energy, but we'd better stick to the official description).
Light is usually portrayed using 3 colours: White, Yellow, or Golden. Since golden is the dominant colour in the cover page, I think that Lancelot's magic of Light is "golden".
We've seen in NnT Ludociel using a light-based attack named "Gold Shining", so this supports the idea that Lance's Light is golden:

 

[Vortigern]

It just occurred to me that Tristan's Falling Star attack falls down from the sky, while Lancelot's Shining Road attack shoots up at the sky. The two signature attacks clashing in mid-air is going to make for a cool scene when the pair eventually has their rematch. Perhaps they could also refine it into a combination technique that strikes the enemy from above and below in a pincer attack.

We've seen in NnT Ludociel using a light-based attack named "Gold Shining", so this supports the idea that Lance's Light is golden

I think Fiddich would have mentioned it if Lancelot's attack was golden, especially since he's supposed to be looking for a young lad with that kind of magic. I doubt Ludociel and Flash have anything to do with this, seeing how Lancelot's attack behaves nothing like any of Ludociel's attacks. Even if that were the case, Ludociel also had a move called Ruby Shine, so you could just as well argue that it's red in color instead of golden.

 

[sobreno]

@FKS, is it true that there is a Q/A in the Japanese version of the chapter where Nakaba said that Fiddich can move a light speed?

 

[FKS]

@FKS, is it true that there is a Q/A in the Japanese version of the chapter where Nakaba said that Fiddich can move a light speed?

There is no such Q/A, and that is a baseless claim.
Where did that come from?

That being said, it's amusing how the last Q/A session ended at Q24 and this week's starts with Q26. The Q25 is nowhere to be found.

 

[Talenel]

Lancelots arrow holding gauntlets are so dang cool.

 

[The Prince of Darkness]

This chapter confirmed 2 things about Lancelot:
1 - Lancelot doesn't know he's a KoA but Meliodas knows
2 - Ban doesn't know his son is back and Meliodas is hiding that from him.

I think only Meliodas and Merlin know about Lancelot come-back.

 

[HereNThere]

I’m just hoping it never comes back. Its honestly the magical ability I dislike the most. I know it will be back but I’m against it.

I think we're going to get a different take on it next time we see it honestly. Something significantly more "reliable" and manageable.

It would explain why Lancelot is looking for that knight, but I feel like having Jericho infiltrate Arthur's knights would be very risky considering the two have met and even spoken to each other before. Then again, Jericho is a pretty ballsy woman, so who knows.

Yeah, it would be a very risky endeavor. Especially since Merlin should be aware of her. But, on the whole, depending on how long she and Lancelot were missing, it'd make for a decent opportunity for her to infiltrate.

Or we could go with the alternative possibility that something ended up changing her after her and Lance's disappearance and she's for Arthur's cause now. Humans were the ones who were being hijacked by that mysterious portal in Lance's debut chapter, so the two things might be related. And whatever happened may not have afflicted him due to his fairy blood.

 

[Tristan]

And here and there again a reference to Rising Impact. The more often Nakaba does this, the more it seems that the fourth is Gawain.

Speaking of Rising Impact, Nakaba made a great picture of Tristan as a knight

and said "this" about him:

Spoiler

 

[sobreno]

Speaking of Rising Impact, Nakaba made a great picture of Tristan as a knight

and said "this" about him:

Spoiler

It is French and this is what was said.

" By the way: Tristan, the guy on the cover under the dust jacket, is the most powerful character of my very first series, "Rising Impact". He doesn't appear in this collection, but he is somehow related to meliodas from "Seven Deadly Sin."

 

[Tristan]

Guys, what if Nanashi is actually Elizabeth's younger brother and his real name is Mark (based on king Mark of Cornwall)?

 

[Bebo]

Guys, what if Nanashi is actually Elizabeth's younger brother and his real name is Mark (based on king Mark of Cornwall)?

It would be dumb to introduce a brother this far into the story. According to his number of wings he was a powerful archangel though.

 

[Demonspeed]

Is there anyone passionate enough to reread NNT and find all the hints on the bottles?

I don't think Nanashi is related to Elizabeth at all. Meliodas saw him too and he didn't react. Nanashi must be one of the knights who defected now that I think about it.

 

[HereNThere]

Is there anyone passionate enough to reread NNT and find all the hints on the bottles?

I can't even bring myself to do a full reread honestly just because honestly. But I remember a good number of the bottles well enough as we've discussed them a few times here. Most of them have a Sun Motif and show up more often after Escanor becomes a mainstay. At least, as far as I can recall.