Chapter Tower of God Chapter 529 Spoilers & Discussion

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Tower Of God Chapter 529 - Alpha Scans

Bam, who was alone all his life has entered the tower to chase after his only friend, Rachel, but how will he survive without having any special strength or power?“What do you desire? Money and wealth? Honor and pride? Authority and power? Revenge? Or something that transcends them all? Whatever...

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@Demonspeed @Lady pompom please pin

 

[O_n_Sly]

I don’t think we’ve seen Akrinic’s true form yet! Nen was too weak, it probably could not fully materialize because she’s soo weak!

 

[Vitala]

Damn rei is worse than Gustang , he doesn’t love animals despite being an anima or it’s just his pets he despises? I found rei white eel ability quite interesting, it looks like its body is made of sword and cut akrinak body like butter, acrinak just finding excuse even with a strong host his attacks will do nothing against rei shinheuh, just imagine rei wielding 2 at the same time , it’s overkill.

people who think baam is gonna avenge all those people at the nest are delusional. Even with power up baam will do nothing against rei, the same baam who wasn’t able to kill kallavan or white is gonna bother rei?

it’s clear that Gustang will show up, he is the only one capable of stopping rei alone, Ha family will not come to the nest, too soon for top GF to appear. Luslec maybe can come but he will need all slayers and baam support to stall against rei.

 

[O_n_Sly]

Go back to read my first post that you quoted.

I said:



So, as the trans indicates, I was correct. Yama doesn't/didn't know as WW insisted the ancient hide in her offspring quietly. And by extension does not have access.

I qualified my thoughts in a series of 'or' options, not indicating it HAD to be the fangs, but that the fangs COULD be a part of the equation.

So, maybe tell yourself? YOU are the one making outlandish claims that the ancient should have showed up before now, or that Yama should know about it for some reason.



Further, we (you) still don't know how the fangs operate completely, or where they came from. Maybe with a full set Yama would have a better realization than an ancient was inside him, opening his third eye as it were.

Where was Akrinic during the Baylord civil war? Where was it at the Wall of Coexistence? Where was it when Yama was getting his face beat in by Yas?

 

[Zahard's Prophet]

SiU really isn't great at the episodic narrative format, these extended flashbacks about characters that aren't very interesting are becoming painful. Nice to see more Traumerei content though, his personality befits a Family Head.

 

[Jubei_Kibagami]

We actually have no that many information about how irregular defeated the ancient one .

We don't even know when the zahard princess started .

We don't even know how many years it actually took or how many opponents they faced .

Again you seem to have all this info . We actually have no idea if all irregular were needed to tame them .

You are just making lot of assumption , if i misrepresent what you mean , feel free to say it . But when i read you post i just have the impression i missed so many thing , when it is you who is making stuff up .

Again there is no lore that indicate that it took much effort to beat ancient or conqueror the tower .

I don't actually remember that there was that much opposition outside of the ancient and we have barely any information off they strenght and how much they were .

I mean you make no sense , i don't want to turn this thread into our usual irregular vs non irregular debate .

But here you are asking me if we know if a irregular could hold his own against more than one ?

The correct assumption based on the information we had so far , is that irregular are likely to be above any other race in the tower and that at some point the they could have represented a threath .

Now irregular are dozen of thousand old and they likely progressed a lot , so i don't even how it make sense that to think because they represented a threath before they would represent a threat to the current one .

So honestly the right assumption given what we have wouldn't be to assume that one or even multiple off them could even fight equally a FH .

you know , if you can prove they represented a threat to the current FH , i would answer to you question i don't know , but now i don't think i am wrong if i think even a dozen of guy like AKrinac wouldn't hold a cancle to guy like Rei .

There was some level off concern for Zahard at some point of his life , again we have no idea of how strong zahard was when he did all this thing .

If they combined maybe they could be a threat , i don't know honestly .

But Akrinac , just by itself ? I don't think so , there is no evidence that show that they can and going by what we know , i would go for Irregular stomp .

I mean even this chapter show that ancient one like Akrinac can't stand a chance and i don't what you said , but you said something like they have a full awakening , something i am not sure they have .

I am genuinely asking a question , do you think a potential fully weakened ancient one could reach or be close to a FH ?

Other species that approached the level of the big 5 ? I am not that sure about that ...

I also think that those beast that Khell , Evankell have don't fight at full power and may be limited , it may depend on the host power .

My real question would be how much you think they are nerfed , do you think they if they we'rent nerfed Nen nen would have put up a way better fight .

My personnaly opinion is that ancient one may be nerfed , because have huge AOE damage , but that it also apply to guy like Jinsung who didn't wan to go for Khun because he didn't want to piss the admin .

So ancient one may be nerfed , but the question is how much . I don't think they could suddenly become super powerful , the nerfing would be limited to the host and not causing too much damage .

I mean, there's very little to say. You insist on arguing against something I haven't said.

As far as the tower lore, perhaps go back and read. It did in fact take princesses and was an arduous process, not exactly overnight.

As far as are they nerfed, even this chapter proves it was nerfed. I'm not sure why you push back so much on that. They're all FORCED to inhabit other beings, and we can't see their true form because of it. That's nerfed by any definition.

You also don't seem to understand rhetorical questions. Just because I ask 'can a FH square off against MANY ancients at once' doesn't indicate I think that they couldn't - or could - it just means that is one of many questions we don't have the answer to. So, at some point - whether it be by volume or fully releasing or zording up or just acting as power-sources for stronger hosts - they will likely become part of the equation against empire.

Unless you think SIU is going nowhere with Baam now essentially gaining a THIRD ancient on his team. Yup, he's going nowhere at all with this. And when he gets a 4th, and a 5th (oh, I completely forgot about Rak, and maybe Taro York) and a 6th....

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Where was Akrinic during the Baylord civil war? Where was it at the Wall of Coexistence? Where was it when Yama was getting his face beat in by Yas?

What do you want me to say? These are questions for SIU (yourself), not me.

None of your questions have anything to do with what I said. Clearly, Yama didn't have the knowledge then, nor the access to the Akrinak then, nor did the Akrinak supposedly feel Yama was facing a life-or-death crisis.



Now, if you're arguing that this is an asspull PU, that's another thing entirely. Your indignation should be directed at SIU (internally), not me.

The point is I wasn't wrong in what I speculated.

 

[sazon]

Where was Akrinic during the Baylord civil war? Where was it at the Wall of Coexistence? Where was it when Yama was getting his face beat in by Yas?

Was Yama's life at risk in any of these situations?

Doom and Yasratcha would never kill Yama, Acrinak knew from the start of Yas's intentions, he should be able to foresee something like that.

It is clear that he will only appear when Rei gets to Yama.

 

[lemo]

Why have these FH stuck around for thousands of years if they really are so fuckin' bored?

 

[Jubei_Kibagami]

Was Yama's life at risk in any of these situations?

Doom and Yasratcha would never kill Yama, Acrinak knew from the start of Yas's intentions, he should be able to foresee something like that.

It is clear that he will only appear when Rei gets to Yama.

Exactly.

NN only wanted it to act against mortal threats. Apparently.

This indicates Yama never truly fought against anyone that was at risk of killing him. If Yas has increased things to the point Yama were truly about to die, I suppose it would have showed up (in retrospect only we know this). Even with all that blood, Yama was able to quickly recover, so his life wasn't really at risk of loss.

I'm still not ruling out fangs as a sort of access to power. Yama has been nerfed in more ways than one, and he didn't even know it (still doesn't) until this very arc.

 

[paulbee]

Pretty good chapter.Frankly I am not surprised,against an Irregular Ranker how ever strong they maybe they will still fall short.Only an Irregular can match another Irregular.


Now as this chapter more or less confirms that the sealed being is the creature that Traumerai couldn't subdue,I wonder how strong that may be,even with all the feats that we saw of Merai in this chapter,yet he couldn't/didn't kill that being,Instead opting to seal it.It should be highly haxy and pretty strong too...

I am really curious about it,I am trying to imagine what can it be?A dinosaur?A Dragon? Or a Great white shark.I am eager to see it.

You know, when the story first started I used to think and believe exactly as you do. Now however the existence and strength of Irregulars have become so nuanced to the point that you can't use the word Irregular Hyperbolically anymore, you have to make exceptions. You have to say "Fully Grown Normal Irregular" instead.

Like I mentioned before, Season One Bam would die if he had to face a High Ranker. Also when we look closely at the Chapter when Gustang Referred to everyone else at the FOD as BUGs with the exception of Bam & Urek .....He said this in spite of (Irregular) Rachel being there too. Does that mean that Rachel is a BUG irregular? In spite of SIU defining her as an Irregular? Can an Irregular be a bug?

p.s Yuri and Garam were there too, so I guess they qualify as bugs, haha!

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If Exceptions and Nuances creep into the meaning of Irregular or the power of Irregular, then one wonders what further confusing nuances and modifications SIU will introduce in the future? To be sure I like Bam as a character and I'll overlook some inconsistencies because it's still a great story.

 

[sazon]

After seeing the translation, honestly, I was only disgusted.

WW was deplorable until the end and Traumerai's personality is disgusting, I don't mind his arrogance, but in fact he as a character didn't captivate me at all.

Nen-Nen was weak or too weak to wield Acrinak's power and in the end, he went to Yama at her request. I don't know if it was a question of adaptation, but she mentions children (well she considered doom a son too) and yet Acrinak chose Yama, this gives even more strength to the theory that to be a host you have to have a certain type of lineage.

I always said that Yas was passionate about WW, here's another proof, in the end, both are extremely deplorable in one way or another.

WW gave one of his fangs to Doom, while Yama was already born with his (I don't remember if yama took it or it was something intentional by WW), he must have given the last fang to Yas so that his friend could become free of Traumerai. In the end, SIU is to be congratulated, his talent for making useless and stupid characters is at its peak.

I liked the eel skill, that is to say the 23 Kaiju really have some special skill.

In the next chapter we should see Yasratcha joining the army and monitoring the baylord brothers as they ascend the tower.

 

[Jubei_Kibagami]

Why have these FH stuck around for thousands of years if they really are so fuckin' bored?

Good question. Their brains and personalities have a rot, as indicated by Jinsung's words.

I guess the thought of losing their anthills they control, or no longer being a big fish in a little pond is less appealing.

They also probably don't know of a true way out, and Zahard literally threw away the key if going up has anything to do with it, so they are FORCED to sit idly by.





This makes me wonder if GongBang's access to the outside of the tower is lateral (from any floor) or only unidirectional - only from accessing the top floor or bottom floor.

Do they (possibly) have the ability to warp out anywhere? Wormholes? Or is their access out of the tower Headon giving them the backdoor out of 1F, or a side-door to 135F+?

 

[sazon]

Exactly.

NN only wanted it to act against mortal threats. Apparently.

This indicates Yama never truly fought against anyone that was at risk of killing him. If Yas has increased things to the point Yama were truly about to die, I suppose it would have showed up (in retrospect only we know this). Even with all that blood, Yama was able to quickly recover, so his life wasn't really at risk of loss.

I'm still not ruling out fangs as a sort of access to power. Yama has been nerfed in more ways than one, and he didn't even know it (still doesn't) until this very arc.

To be fair, Yas must not even know about the existence of Acrinak inside the Yama.

And from the old man's speech at the volcano, he kind of predicted some tragedy already, so I really think he didn't mind Yama getting beaten up because Yas would never actually kill him

 

[Ignorant]

After seeing the translation, honestly, I was only disgusted.

WW was deplorable until the end and Traumerai's personality is disgusting, I don't mind his arrogance, but in fact he as a character didn't captivate me at all.

Nen-Nen was weak or too weak to wield Acrinak's power and in the end, he went to Yama at her request. I don't know if it was a question of adaptation, but she mentions children (well she considered doom a son too) and yet Acrinak chose Yama, this gives even more strength to the theory that to be a host you have to have a certain type of lineage.

I always said that Yas was passionate about WW, here's another proof, in the end, both are extremely deplorable in one way or another.

Traumerai gave one of his fangs to Doom, while Yama was already born with his (I don't remember if yama took it or it was something intentional by Trau), he must have given the last fang to Yas so that his friend could become free of Traumerai. In the end, SIU is to be congratulated, his talent for making useless and stupid characters is at its peak.

I liked the eel skill, that is to say the 23 Kaiju really have some special skill.

In the next chapter we should see Yasratcha joining the army and monitoring the baylord brothers as they ascend the tower.

Traumerei did not gave anything to anyone.. the rest is all good

 

[Merrie]

Why have these FH stuck around for thousands of years if they really are so fuckin' bored?

power, ego, the idea of just standing above others maybe or being invicible etc. when you got a taste of their position, i guess it's hard to go back to the way things were before. i have no sympathy for the lot of them tbf.

 

[Ignorant]

This FBs are just getting better every week..
Maybe we can replace the main story with this..

 

[sazon]

Why have these FH stuck around for thousands of years if they really are so fuckin' bored?

In the tower FH are gods, outside the tower who knows? Zahard looked like a prince or something out there, but still he entered the tower, maybe even with his sense of adventure, he has nowhere to go.

 

[O_n_Sly]

Was Yama's life at risk in any of these situations?

Doom and Yasratcha would never kill Yama, Acrinak knew from the start of Yas's intentions, he should be able to foresee something like that.

It is clear that he will only appear when Rei gets to Yama.

Akrinic should be upset with Yas too. Yas is why Nen is dead

 

[Big-Bird]

Summary
-Nen-Nen has tried to confront Traum by showing us the miracles of what the maternal instinct can do. Not much, apparently.
(Traumerai used a green spear, maybe his normal position is spear bearer.Spear Bearer/Anima??? interesting combo)

- Seeing that her lifespan is counting in seconds she asks Acrinak for a favor, which is to protect her children (she says that Acrinak never listened to her before, it seems that he didn't choose her by choice)
Acrinak accepts and goes to Yama.(I wonder where Acrinak was when Yas made abstract art with Yama's body as a brush, he was probably asleep?)


-We see Yas snitching to Kirin( the only reasonable fucking person in this family it seems) about WW and Nen-Nen's plan so that Kirin agrees to send Yas to kill WW himself seriously and that the LPB don't dirty their hands, Kirin accepts ( if Kirin is one of the regent of the family then what is the other one doing, it seems like Kirin is doing everything by himself and the other one is wandering around we don't know where, poor Kirin)

-Yas goes to see WW to convince him to run away together ( and the canines) to found a country ( seriously the number of yaoi fanart on these 2 will be unreal in future) WW as usual refuses to betray his master and has a dispute with Yas who finally admits to having a fixation on WW ( deep down Yas was as stupid and instinctive as WW)

-Suddenly the portal is activated and Traumerai enters the chat, with Nen-Nen's body. For the first time WW has a backbone and gets angry at Traum but not enough to attack him (if even that wasn "t enough nothing can) Traum is not surprised and he mentions again that story of abandonment for love (we understand you are hurt and you are probably having a depression, maybe we should do a group therapy with all the FH, I am sure there would be something to say)

-WW asks him if he thinks about him to hurt him like that

-Traum says that WW doesn't count and that he doesn't feel anything for him but he doesn't want to kill him himself because he raised her ( he contradicts himself, Traum is a Tsundere.) he decides to control the canines to do it

WW asks him how he can sacrifice himself to save everyone Traum from being turned into confetti by the canines one wound for each dog. WW accepts

WW decides to save Yas and asks him to hurt him first ( WW finally does something right, Finally all the people Yas has enslaved don't agree but who cares about them)

 

[Jubei_Kibagami]

To be fair, Yas must not even know about the existence of Acrinak inside the Yama.

And from the old man's speech at the volcano, he kind of predicted some tragedy already, so I really think he didn't mind Yama getting beaten up because Yas would never actually kill him

I can't but help be reminded that Yas' full transformation is so un-cat-like and partially looks like Acrinak to the point thinking that maybe Yas took a portion of that power himself.

And I still wonder how the fangs play into all this.

Yama didn't have access to the fangs AND didn't have access to the ancient. Seems a lot of coincidental nerfing IMO. But I suppose they could likewise just be unrelated and concurrent, just not correlated.

 

[sazon]

Traumerei did not gave anything to anyone.. the rest is all good

I already corrected it, I was referring to WW

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Akrinic should be upset with Yas too. Yas is why Nen is dead

For what reason? He never cared about her. lol

You're just trying to complain dude.