Chapter Tower of God Chapter 529 Spoilers & Discussion

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Tower Of God Chapter 529 - Alpha Scans

Bam, who was alone all his life has entered the tower to chase after his only friend, Rachel, but how will he survive without having any special strength or power?“What do you desire? Money and wealth? Honor and pride? Authority and power? Revenge? Or something that transcends them all? Whatever...

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@Demonspeed @Lady pompom please pin

 

[kkck]

Dude, you're the one questioning her lineage here.

I don't know how schools work in other countries, but you studied genetics right? Regardless of your idiotic speech about bloodline purity, NN being an experiment (which I don't know where you got it from, because at no point is it said to be a beastkin like Yas and WW) your gene would still be passed on to your child.

They say that we are the group of complainers, but you are to be congratulated today Sly.

Welp, all beastkin are experiments commissioned by traumerei. That much was said a few chapters ago at least. That said, regardless of their status beastkin have proven to be consistently extremely powerful. Wang wang got so powerful the branch leaders of the LPB felt threatened. Yaratcha became a corp commander. All 3 of wang wang's kids are well above average high rankers. At this point I'd be surprised if even family heads could father/mother 3 consecutive high rankers... Only close instance to that I can think of would be yurin's twins.

 

[Jubei_Kibagami]

Dude, you're the one questioning her lineage here.

I don't know how schools work in other countries, but you studied genetics right? Regardless of your idiotic speech about bloodline purity, NN being an experiment (which I don't know where you got it from, because at no point is it said to be a beastkin like Yas and WW) your gene would still be passed on to your child.

They say that we are the group of complainers, but you are to be congratulated today Sly.

Whoa, you're right.

I totally missed @O_n_Sly 's induction into the #complaincrew group. It's like it happened and I didn't even notice it happening.

Is this a type of self-hate? SIU not liking his own work?

Orb2Whatever is going to have an aneurysm we have one more in the ranks...

 

[O_n_Sly]

Dude, you're the one questioning her lineage here.

I don't know how schools work in other countries, but you studied genetics right? Regardless of your idiotic speech about bloodline purity, NN being an experiment (which I don't know where you got it from, because at no point is it said to be a beastkin like Yas and WW) your gene would still be passed on to your child.

They say that we are the group of complainers, but you are to be congratulated today Sly.

lol when WW 1st saw her he said she is a beastmen just like him and Yas. Maybe read and pay attention better lol!!!!

And all this is from the same FB lol!

 

[kkck]

I don't think Zahard knows Yasratcha's true intentions.

Granted, it was the Baam presence that helped prevent Yama from being captured at the wall, but it was the existence of Yasratcha himself that brought the Baylord brothers together again.

In the end, I think SIU wants to show that Zahard's influence on fate has many flaws.

It'd be weird if zahard could manipulate fate without knowing what the people he is manipulating are about though. I do assume zahard's ability to manipulate fate is still limited but it's hard to imagine zahard doing stuff like this without having some context at least. How do you look into the future without learning from that future to begin with?

 

[Jubei_Kibagami]

Yes, definitely. But now having actual context regarding the relationship between dogs and felines this makes way more sense. The relationship is by no means just generic enmity or friendship. It also leaves the question of how much zahard knows about them in general. If he knows about yaratcha's and wang wang's past then necessarily expecting yaratcha to merely crush them seems like a stretch. Since yaratcha's whims have pretty much been both friendly and lethal to canines. I can't help but wonder if zahard's play here is beefing up yama... for the sake of making the incoming war bloodier maybe? I can imagine zahard being unable to anticipate bam when it comes to destiny and whatnot but canine wise bam has been largely absent from the plot. So things are probably going according to zahard's will, at least until bam shows up.

I don't think Zahard knows Yasratcha's true intentions.

Granted, it was the Baam presence that helped prevent Yama from being captured at the wall, but it was the existence of Yasratcha himself that brought the Baylord brothers together again.

In the end, I think SIU wants to show that Zahard's influence on fate has many flaws.

On this:

a) To me the most obvious is Zahard knows Yas' skill-set, which is a natural foil for the dogs, as he can control them. That's an obvious win for team Z if the enemy's heavy-hitter(s) are preoccupied being controlled. It wasn't until Cha was woken up that Yas was recalled. Makes me wonder if ZoA knew that was too much for the 5th to handle, but that they were left to take care of things prior to that. If Chi is that powerful that is, who knows. Either way, I'd imagine Yas' powers over canines is known by Zahard & Co. at the very least.

b) That said, there is this recurring theme of FHs - from Zahard to Rei in these very chapters - setting things up just to see if the loyalty is valid or not. Scenarios are created to tempt the pawns into breaking their loyalty. Call it boredom really. Those two particularly (probably all the other FHs as well) have really bad abandonment issues/anxiety, so they decide to shit-test everyone they can.

c) I still think it's odd that Yas is in the control of Zahard now, not Rei who is territorial over his 'pets' - I wonder how exactly that pivot came. Did Rei brown-nose some more by giving a strong pet to Zahard? Did Zahard make the demand? Did Rei dismiss or abandon Yas as a failed experiment, bad cat? It doesn't seem Yas could just leave on his own devices, or escape the gravity of the LPB as it were.

 

[sazon]

Ah, good point. Like Kushina/Naruto's lineage is best suited to be a jinchuriki or however it worked. I guess I immediately thought it had to get to a host ASAP, and Yama was the closest, but they were all in that training tower after all.

That said, she did say children - plural. Did we just see a singular example of a child getting some of the power of the Acrinak with Yama? The other two also getting the same treatment off-screen? Just spit-balling here. It's not like the Acrinak could move to save the 3 pups if it was only in Yama and Paul or Doom was at risk of being killed on another floor.

I really think that Acrinak's power is specific to Yama, every time an ancient one appears, the theory that to be a host, you need to have old blood, regardless of being a DD or ID, make stronger. SIU put a lot of emphasis on this issue of Yama's mother's lineage.

Now why has he never directly hinted at it or even confirmed it? Because of Rak. I believe that Rak is not a DD, but native one itself. Following the idea that when splitting, a phenomenon similar to White's split occurred, but with the difference that Rak doesn't remember anything. Remember that Eduan doesn't recognize Rak as a DD because of his appearance, but because his arms glow when he uses the elements, that is, the native DDs don't even remotely look like Rak, which in turn is identical to the Rak. native one.

If by chance SIU revealed that NN, khel or EVK are native DD, it would kill this charade. BTW, I don't think he's going to hide the NN lineage for long, after all, it looks like we'll see Acrinak in the present very soon.

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Welp, all beastkin are experiments commissioned by traumerei. That much was said a few chapters ago at least. That said, regardless of their status beastkin have proven to be consistently extremely powerful. Wang wang got so powerful the branch leaders of the LPB felt threatened. Yaratcha became a corp commander. All 3 of wang wang's kids are well above average high rankers. At this point I'd be surprised if even family heads could father/mother 3 consecutive high rankers... Only close instance to that I can think of would be yurin's twins.

The issue here is NN, it has not been confirmed that she is a beastkin, we only know that she comes from an ancient bloodline.

 

[O_n_Sly]

Nen’s lineage lol! She’s an experiment!!! @sazon know what you’re talking lol!!!

 

[lazybum]

1) Acrinak notice the special existence that is WW, being someone who cannot be dominated

2) Acrinak seems to decide then to stop fighting and retreat into its host

3) Said host is a woman who immediately, quite coincidentally, charmed WW

4) Stuff happen, namely TOG style romcom between WW and NN

5) On the day NN tried to break out her kids, before dying, she made a plea to Acrinak to protect her kids, despite knowing that Acrinak never really acknowledged her before

6) After dying, it seems Acrinak accepted her plea. BUT it is shown that only Yama is being "protected", at least he seems to be the next host. Yama being the child of NN, a host Acrinak has chosen, and WW, someone it noticed having special power.

Methinks this Acrinak is very crafty (which a personality type that is common with his power smoke/mental/illusion).

 

[O_n_Sly]

Her lineage is meaningless she was a weak host and was killed like all ToG fodder

 

[sazon]

It'd be weird if zahard could manipulate fate without knowing what the people he is manipulating are about though. I do assume zahard's ability to manipulate fate is still limited but it's hard to imagine zahard doing stuff like this without having some context at least. How do you look into the future without learning from that future to begin with?

I speak in the sense that Zahard just wanted to bring the two species together so that Yas would destroy Yama, so he manipulated fate to that end. He is not omniscient.

 

[Turtle hunter]

It'd be weird if zahard could manipulate fate without knowing what the people he is manipulating are about though. I do assume zahard's ability to manipulate fate is still limited but it's hard to imagine zahard doing stuff like this without having some context at least. How do you look into the future without learning from that future to begin with?

If Zahard really saw fate and clearly he would saw that he was destined to be defeated .

 

[Jubei_Kibagami]

I really think that Acrinak's power is specific to Yama, every time an ancient one appears, the theory that to be a host, you need to have old blood, regardless of being a DD or ID, make stronger. SIU put a lot of emphasis on this issue of Yama's mother's lineage.

Now why has he never directly hinted at it or even confirmed it? Because of Rak. I believe that Rak is not a DD, but native one itself. Following the idea that when splitting, a phenomenon similar to White's split occurred, but with the difference that Rak doesn't remember anything. Remember that Eduan doesn't recognize Rak as a DD because of his appearance, but because his arms glow when he uses the elements, that is, the native DDs don't even remotely look like Rak, which in turn is identical to the Rak. native one.

If by chance SIU revealed that NN, khel or EVK are native DD, it would kill this charade. BTW, I don't think he's going to hide the NN lineage for long, after all, it looks like we'll see Acrinak in the present very soon.

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The issue here is NN, it has not been confirmed that she is a beastkin, we only know that she comes from an ancient bloodline.

Generally agreed. Not much to add, so I'll say this instead:

A lot of effort has been made by SIU to show Yama as the type to sleep, like, HARD. And often. To the point he can't even be woken up without it being a danger. The sleeping/lazy shtick is more cat-like, like Yas would be or his cat-kin.

Contrast that with his dad, WW, who is a work horse and doesn't even require sleep at all it seems.

I'm not sure if this is merely a personality trait, as in different people are different, and kids aren't required to be like their parents or what.



OR, if there is more to it. Maybe being the host of the Acrinak is draining. Or it requires time to roam Yama's consciousness and stretch its legs while he sleeps, and acts out if this sleep is broken. Or it's still recovering from the damage that day, and needs Yama to go into sleep mode often to get back to full-power (which will ofc be pretty recent as you point out since we now have this FB and know of the Acrinak in Yama at all).

 

[DeadCosmos]

I really think that Acrinak's power is specific to Yama, every time an ancient one appears, the theory that to be a host, you need to have old blood, regardless of being a DD or ID, make stronger. SIU put a lot of emphasis on this issue of Yama's mother's lineage.

Now why has he never directly hinted at it or even confirmed it? Because of Rak. I believe that Rak is not a DD, but native one itself. Following the idea that when splitting, a phenomenon similar to White's split occurred, but with the difference that Rak doesn't remember anything. Remember that Eduan doesn't recognize Rak as a DD because of his appearance, but because his arms glow when he uses the elements, that is, the native DDs don't even remotely look like Rak, which in turn is identical to the Rak. native one.

If by chance SIU revealed that NN, khel or EVK are native DD, it would kill this charade. BTW, I don't think he's going to hide the NN lineage for long, after all, it looks like we'll see Acrinak in the present very soon.

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The issue here is NN, it has not been confirmed that she is a beastkin, we only know that she comes from an ancient bloodline.

That makes a lot of sense. It is in the name “ancient” , so they have to be ancient and old. like khel hellam he obviously old

 

[sazon]

Nen’s lineage lol! She’s an experiment!!! @sazon know what you’re talking lol!!!

Can you confirm with that line that it is an experiment?

You played a totally elitist talk about lineage purity saying that being an experiment would tarnish it etc.

 

[Turtle hunter]

Well if that chapter showed something is that people really value different thing .

WW was selfish , and yes he was a failure to his race and his family but well again he only wanted to be loyal to his master and he succeded .

He had a dream , living and giving his life for his master and he suceeded , his dream may be fucked but he followed his path .

All in all , i can see why people dislike WW .

I just want to tell @Cinera do you think Maschenny is a good girl or that she care about peace or the well being of her family ?

I think it is easy to see where i am going right @Cinera ?

Maschenny would be ready to let the tower burn is blood and flame with fucking massacre everywhere , just to achieved her dream .

In the end WW is no different from Maschenny and both seek to fulfill a stupid dream irrespective of the consequence .

 

[sazon]

Generally agreed. Not much to add, so I'll say this instead:

A lot of effort has been made by SIU to show Yama as the type to sleep, like, HARD. And often. To the point he can't even be woken up without it being a danger. The sleeping/lazy shtick is more cat-like, like Yas would be or his cat-kin.

Contrast that with his dad, WW, who is a work horse and doesn't even require sleep at all it seems.

I'm not sure if this is merely a personality trait, as in different people are different, and kids aren't required to be like their parents or what.



OR, if there is more to it. Maybe being the host of the Acrinak is draining. Or it requires time to roam Yama's consciousness and stretch its legs while he sleeps, and acts out if this sleep is broken. Or it's still recovering from the damage that day, and needs Yama to go into sleep mode often to get back to full-power (which will ofc be pretty recent as you point out since we now have this FB and know of the Acrinak in Yama at all).

It would be interesting if this were one of the consequences of having acrinak in your body. It's a good point

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Well if that chapter showed something is that people really value different thing .

WW was selfish , and yes he was a failure to his race and his family but well again he only wanted to be loyal to his master and he succeded .

He had a dream , living and giving his life for his master and he suceeded , his dream may be fucked but he followed his path .

All in all , i can see why people dislike WW .

I just want to tell @Cinera do you think Maschenny is a good girl or that she care about peace or the well being of her family ?

I think it is easy to see where i am going right @Cinera ?

Maschenny would be ready to let the tower burn is blood and flame with fucking massacre everywhere , just to achieved her dream .

In the end WW is no different from Maschenny and both seek to fulfill a stupid dream irrespective of the consequence .

Looking forward to the answer, maybe we have the meme of the week. make your bets

 

[Turtle hunter]

Generally agreed. Not much to add, so I'll say this instead:

A lot of effort has been made by SIU to show Yama as the type to sleep, like, HARD. And often. To the point he can't even be woken up without it being a danger. The sleeping/lazy shtick is more cat-like, like Yas would be or his cat-kin.

Contrast that with his dad, WW, who is a work horse and doesn't even require sleep at all it seems.

I'm not sure if this is merely a personality trait, as in different people are different, and kids aren't required to be like their parents or what.



OR, if there is more to it. Maybe being the host of the Acrinak is draining. Or it requires time to roam Yama's consciousness and stretch its legs while he sleeps, and acts out if this sleep is broken. Or it's still recovering from the damage that day, and needs Yama to go into sleep mode often to get back to full-power (which will ofc be pretty recent as you point out since we now have this FB and know of the Acrinak in Yama at all).

I don't think SIU planned as far as you make it seems .

But it could be interesting to see SIU exploit that part of the story .

FUrthemore , Yama being a mad dog which is the opposite to WW being the loyal dog is peculiar .

Like is it because Yama is more human and less dog kin , or maybe Akrinac ?

 

[Jubei_Kibagami]

Nen’s lineage lol! She’s an experiment!!! @sazon know what you’re talking lol!!!

I got hints that there are wild beastkin as well.

The other option is she escaped, or her ancestors did, which seems unlikely. What are the odds that a beastkin escaped from the LPB at all, and THEN got an ancient power to boot incidentally? Very low I'd say.

Also, the beastkin experiments are clear combinations of well-known animals: fish-people, squirrel-people, ram-people, and so on.

NN is clearly something else as she's not an obvious animal.

More likely is that Rei is trying to recreate things he's seen in the tower, such as beastkin.

1) Acrinak notice the special existence that is WW, being someone who cannot be dominated

2) Acrinak seems to decide then to stop fighting and retreat into its host

3) Said host is a woman who immediately, quite coincidentally, charmed WW

4) Stuff happen, namely TOG style romcom between WW and NN

5) On the day NN tried to break out her kids, before dying, she made a plea to Acrinak to protect her kids, despite knowing that Acrinak never really acknowledged her before

6) After dying, it seems Acrinak accepted her plea. BUT it is shown that only Yama is being "protected", at least he seems to be the next host. Yama being the child of NN, a host Acrinak has chosen, and WW, someone it noticed having special power.

Methinks this Acrinak is very crafty (which a personality type that is common with his power smoke/mental/illusion).

Agreed.

Also interesting that the Acrinak has managed to manipulate things to go from a Slayer to a (placeholder) back to a Slayer.

Almost as if it wants to purposefully stay on the side of strong characters that oppose Zahard and Co...

Her lineage is meaningless she was a weak host and was killed like all ToG fodder

Not if it is only valuable insofar as she has the right genetics AND can produce stronger heirs.

The Acrinak, an ancient, that's been around forever in the Tower, is probably playing the long game.

If Zahard really saw fate and clearly he would saw that he was destined to be defeated .

This gets into the inevitability of fate argument though. Take for instance Satan, who certainly knows his fate in the Christian lore. Now, maybe he doesn't agree per se that will be the outcome. But he supposedly knows the texts and as such would know his fate - also that God is omniscient and omnipotent, i.e., a rebellion is fated to fail. And yet he tries anyways. Things that make you go hmm.

 

[O_n_Sly]

Can you confirm with that line that it is an experiment?

You played a totally elitist talk about lineage purity saying that being an experiment would tarnish it etc.

WW says 2 chapters ago that she is a fellow beastmen! He of all people would know!

 

[Turtle hunter]

It would be interesting if this were one of the consequences of having acrinak in your body. It's a good point

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Looking forward to the answer, maybe we have the meme of the week. make your bets

I mean am i wrong ?

TOG is not the type of story with good guy , it is more nuanced .

Maschenny could vie for the worst type of persone honestly .

Jahad want to be king , FH don't give a shit about anyone .

FUG want power .

Maschenny genuinely love chaos and bloodshed .

But you know what ? I genuinely love that crazy bitch psycho and how she stacked her live against Zahard and died fulfilled despite her defeat , the same way i respect her trying to outsmart FH .