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- the golden colored magic user is Lancelot
- "Shining Road" is a golden Light, and one of "Flash"(grace) techniques
- his movement speed in this picture is clear evidence, just like ludociel's speed




- Tristan is the new vessel of the sunshine grace
- the sun is a star, and Tristan has a technique called Falling Star
 

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- the golden colored magic user is Lancelot
- "Shining Road" is a golden Light, and one of "Flash"(grace) techniques
- his movement speed in this picture is clear evidence, just like ludociel's speed




- Tristan is the new vessel of the sunshine grace
- the sun is a star, and Tristan has a technique called Falling Star
I highly doubt that any of the 4KoA would possess a grace. Since they are essentially around to overcome Chaos [Arthur] they will need a new/greater power to overcome the pure power that chaos gives Arthur. Since the graces; although strong still couldn’t contend with the likes of the Demon King (only Escanor igniting his life force with sunshine) - a being inferior to chaos. Though it would be great to have some more light shed on Flash.
I think that their powers come from something similar to chaos since magic power as a whole and why people gain unique magic powers was never explained in NNT. It just remained a mystery and frankly it was hard to believe how humans and other races could even gain something relatively unique without some sort of other being or force intervening in that.
We already know that there have been fragments of chaos like Cath roaming around, it wouldn’t shock me if the earth itself is a fragment of chaos granting inhabitants with these unique abilities.
Magic has to come from somewhere - especially technically on a world that chaos created.
 

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- the golden colored magic user is Lancelot
- "Shining Road" is a golden Light, and one of "Flash"(grace) techniques
- his movement speed in this picture is clear evidence, just like ludociel's speed




- Tristan is the new vessel of the sunshine grace
- the sun is a star, and Tristan has a technique called Falling Star
I don't get why some fans want them to have the Graces so much. Following that logic Fiddich was a Flash user as well because Haste was boosting his movement speed.

Ludociel, Sariel and Tarmiel are supposed to come back with their Graces.
 

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This answer was attached to a quote about power levels. The person above wrote that Arthur's power level is 10 million, while Meliodas has less than a million. To which I wrote that these are fan guesses, and not official information.

I'm just a supporter of power levels. If Nakaba had followed them in the same way as he did in the first half of the original manga, the plot would have been more interesting and those ridiculous scenes would not have appeared in which much weaker characters work their magic on stronger ones. Resistance to hostile magic as strength increases is one of the foundations of combat in the first arcs of the original manga, and is a great motivation for heroes to get stronger. If this is not the case, then there is no rationale in the battles of the characters, and, accordingly, the reader cannot predict the various outcomes of the confrontations between the characters. Causal connections must work, otherwise the narrative loses its integrity.
PLs are nice tools for games, but I hate them when their appear in stories. The concepts are better be conveyed via dialogues and events, rather than external elements like numbers.
I replied the fanfic vs official part of that post tbh, but it happened to be related to PLs!

I am primarily interested in the original source of this information. I agree that Arthur's inability to grow a hand looks odd without further explanation. The problem is that at the moment, as far as I know, we have not received this explanation.
If it was not for FKS' confirmation, I'd doubt the info. But I don't think I need to think about its reliability after that..

Obviously, I, like other readers, cannot reliably state the color of Lancelot's magic without additional explanation in the manga. Specifically, I just noted that the chapter emphasized that that particular shining attack is Lancelot's magic.
The chapter was a weird one afterall. Lance showed a variety of techniques one chapter, but only Shining Road was addressed as HIS MAGIC by Fiddich. Taking into account that one of the knights has golden color magic and Bingo! it all makes sense. Lancelot with his shining magic is the guy with the golden colored one. It's what @Tristan seems to be implying in his posts too. HOWEVER, things change when we consider the undeniable similarities and connections between NnT/MnYK and Rising impact. I'll make a post about it mixed with my wishes and fantasies soon.
 

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- the golden colored magic user is Lancelot
- "Shining Road" is a golden Light, and one of "Flash"(grace) techniques
- his movement speed in this picture is clear evidence, just like ludociel's speed




- Tristan is the new vessel of the sunshine grace
- the sun is a star, and Tristan has a technique called Falling Star
What would a Human / Fairy be doing with the Flash Grace ? I highly doubt Nakaba would use the same self destruction trope again . & In all honesty , that doesn’t really sound compatible since we never saw Flash shoot projectiles , let alone chase your target . & Tristan’s Demon half wouldn’t make Sunshine compatible at all .
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People are too expectant on getting the Graces back in action via the main characters . I honestly don’t see the hype . They’re just underdeveloped element powers .

Sunshine • Plot power boost + can make Suns . Can’t even really use the fire element too much in itself unless you’re Mael

Ocean • Has just .. made a pillar of water … I guess it does make that ocean , but it needs to be used in conjunction with Tornado to keep 1 stationary .

Tornado • Basic version of Howzer’s magic , only made to “ look “ Super powerful .

Flash • Greatly missed opportunity . All it does it make you fast . You can’t even really cast down lightning . You just sorta illuminate stuff . So it’s sort of a colored Ark , & has no variational difference in the manga .

In all honesty , I prefer the elemental magics that have been more developed in the story , with more techniques to choose from . Instead of some powers we’re made to believe are supposed to be super strong , but due to how late they appear , don’t really do too much .

(Not a jab btw , King of Chaos .)
 

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- the golden colored magic user is Lancelot
- "Shining Road" is a golden Light, and one of "Flash"(grace) techniques
- his movement speed in this picture is clear evidence, just like ludociel's speed




- Tristan is the new vessel of the sunshine grace
- the sun is a star, and Tristan has a technique called Falling Star
He’s definitely the knight with no fixed appearance. We just saw him transform himself from a Fox.

And Tristan is definitely the one with holiness and evil in his eyes given his parents. Also I doubt a grace would ever give itself to a demon.
 

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what has Nasiens's poison been able to affect?
 

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Today is Nakaba's birthday. Let's see if he will celebrate the occasion with a particularly good chapter.

Hopefully we get some backstory for Lancelot soon. I'm curious about why he's looking for Dubs and the knight with the star-shaped visor. Most of the attention has been focused on the knight, but I think Dubs could be more important. He was responsible for building the CoeD that could seal an entire clan, so perhaps he could also build a device that can seal Arthur's powers? It could also be that Lancelot wants Dubs to make weapons for the party to help them in the war against Arthur's knights. Or maybe he just wants Dubs to enchant his bow, or perhaps fix/strengthen the wooden spear he made in the one-shot. I kinda like the last idea because depriving Lancelot of his weapon of choice would be a believable way to nerf him a bit. That's something that was already established in NNT, where the Sins couldn't access their full powers without their Sacred Treasures. Lancelot's spear being broken would also explain why he had to borrow Donny's knife to use Shining Road. Otherwise he just seems kind of dumb to not carry the tools needed to use his own magic. Whatever the case, this focus on Dubs is interesting because it means we might see more of the giants in the not too distant future. Megadozer was said to be the home of the eastern tribe of the giant clan, which means that there must be one or more other tribes somewhere out there, maybe even in central Britannia. It could be a way to bring Diane back into the story, or perhaps to introduce one of her kids.

Diane actually gives me an interesting idea. A little while ago I mentioned that Lancelot's estimate of Paysan being 200 miles from Liones was off by 100-200 miles. One explanation for that is that Liones has been moved, but another option would be that Lancelot never intended to travel the entire distance. This is where Diane could come in. Remember back when Vivian kidnapped Elizabeth, and Diane literally threw Mel, Ban and Gowther to Liones? Back then it was said that they were over 40 miles from the kingdom and yet Diane said she could throw them there no problem. She's now more than 10 times stronger than back then, so perhaps she could manage more than 100 miles this time around with a serious throw? The group should be able to land safely by using Percival's cape.

There was an absence in the archangel ranks whilst Mael was a child in training, so Nanashi was probably the fourth archangel and then left for some reason.
Not a bad idea, but I wonder how that would fit with Nanashi being from a foreign country. When and how did he get there, how did he survive for 3000 years and why does he look Asian if he's originally from Britannia? Nanashi being a massive weeb who's just larping as a samurai would be somewhat amusing I suppose.

Lancelot and Tristan not being 16 would be strange considering it's been the age of all the mains so far. Percival is 16 and he is the oldest of the three but their birth dates are close.
Percival is the youngest. He turned 16 in chapter 1, which means that it's currently late April or so in the story. Donny's birthday is in June, so he'll be turning 17 soon. He's about 10 months older than Percival.

And oh, would you look at this too:

From left to right after Percival we've been saying this is Lancelot, Tristan and most likely Gawain. It's the same order.
Looking at that picture, it kind of seems like the Knight of Famine is actually stepping on people, whereas with the other knights there are just people dying somewhere off in the background. This might hint that Famine is going to be a giant, or perhaps more likely a half-giant to match the other hybrids among the KOTA.

The situation in which another person can manipulate this power completely devalues the uniqueness of Escanor as a character and kills the remnants of intrigue associated with his ability not to die from this power.
Escanor was never meant to be unique. Not only does Mael share his power in-universe, but Escanor is based on Escanor the Large from the Arthurian legends, whose strength increased during the day and who shared that power with Gawain. You say that another character with the ability to withstand Sunshine would kill the intrigue around Escanor, but that just means addressing the hanging plot thread. It kills the intrigue in the same way that revealing the answer to a mystery kills the intrigue around it, but that doesn't mean mysteries should never be answered.

Is there any evidence for what you're saying? The power levels of the heroes at the end of the manga were not named even in the latest fanbook. The same goes for the hand. I am tormented by vague doubts about your sincerity, so I will ask you for proof of these statements.
They're referring to this post by sobreno last week.

I highly doubt Nakaba would use the same self destruction trope again .

People are too expectant on getting the Graces back in action via the main characters . I honestly don’t see the hype . They’re just underdeveloped element powers .
I wouldn't be so sure about that. I was expecting Escanor to find some way of overcoming Sunshine's destructive effect on him and get his happy ending, because that's how things usually work in these types of stories. The fact that Escanor failed gives me the impression that someone else will have to take up the torch for him and find a solution to that problem. There was also another similar plot point in that Escanor's last wish was for Merlin to find someone to love. That more personal element could suggest that the person who will finish what Escanor started will be none other than Escanor himself. Reincarnations are an established part of the setting, so we could see something like the Rou-Oslo situation where he came back as a different person but with the same desires.

I agree that the Graces are a bit overhyped by the fans and I also don't expect to see much of them in the story, with the exception of Sunshine since that was already teased back when the sequel was announced. I just hope that the new user will handle the power in a way that is different from what we've seen from Escanor and Mael, to give the ability a fresh coat of paint that keeps it from getting stale. An idea I like is that Sunshine would be stored in a weapon. That's what happened in that Rising Impact special where Gawain found a sword that contained the power of the sun. That solution also addresses the problem of Sunshine killing the user, because the power is not stored in their body, while leaving room for the user to developed an additional set of abilities to go along with the weapon's magic.
 

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Title of next chapter: The king of Liones
Break next week.

There's some Q/As, TLing them now.
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Q/As:

Q29: Amaron-san: Can Percival fly to Liones with Hope?
A: He can't do it a this current level. (laughs)

Q30: Saitou-san: How long has Gowther managed the village of Demons?
A: 16 years, although he hasn't been there the whole time, he goes to Liones or Ordan now and then.

Q31: Tomi-san: Does Donny know Gowther is a dude?
A: He found out later and is probably dejected.
 
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I don't get why some fans want them to have the Graces so much. Following that logic Fiddich was a Flash user as well because Haste was boosting his movement speed.
I don't know about Lancelot getting a Grace (seems far-fetched but not totally impossible given how a human got a Grace in the past) BUT Flash is not just about speed! It gives its user power over Light (kinda more advanced than Ark).
"Burn in agony by the might of my grace Flash"

 

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Couldn't the f*cker have transported them before the kids put their lives in danger? Tf
 

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Couldn't the f*cker have transported them before the kids put their lives in danger? Tf
I'm giving Nakaba the next chapter to hopefully explain because Lance's whole "testing them" spiel is not a valid excuse for me.
 

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Nakaba chose the right moment for a break :XD.

Couldn't the f*cker have transported them before the kids put their lives in danger? Tf
He said in this chapter he was told to interfere as little as possible.

I don't know about Lancelot getting a Grace (seems far-fetched but not totally impossible given how a human got a Grace in the past) BUT Flash is not just about speed! It gives its user power over Light (kinda more advanced than Ark).
"Burn in agony by the might of my grace Flash"

I know. Lancelot used a light attack but hasn't showed Flash's super speed. Fiddich had super speed but no light attack so it's the same.
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Now that we know what was Lancelot's mission I guess Tristan had the same and he'll come back with Gawain? Or maybe he'll fail and meet him with Percival's group or something.

Anyway, I doubt Nakaba would reveal two KoA so quickly like that so he is probably not at Liones at the moment. Meliodas's return is a big deal already.
 

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Finally, we're at Liones! I'm excited to see Meliodas & Elizabeth as the rulers of Liones. Maybe we will see Tristan as well?

NGL I kinda want Arthur to personally intervene, would be some good drama to read tbh instead of these fodder chaos knights who die in like 2 chapters.

Not a bad idea, but I wonder how that would fit with Nanashi being from a foreign country. When and how did he get there, how did he survive for 3000 years and why does he look Asian if he's originally from Britannia? Nanashi being a massive weeb who's just larping as a samurai would be somewhat amusing I suppose.
High-ranking Goddesses have exceedingly long lifespans. Mael, the youngest of the group was around 4000 years old before the seal activated, so it doesn't surprise me if Nanashi could live for even longer. The whole comment of him not having a master anymore, makes me suspect that it's possible that the Supreme Deity exiled him out of the clan for disobeying their laws. Perhaps, she even tore his wings off as a punishment, like how Elizabeth was cursed.
 

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Damn this was a banger chapter, so many interesting things and off course the best cliffhanger(damn the break next week)

Thank god we're at lioness now, looking forward to see the Main Old Cast

Anyway does Lancelot know that he's a knight of apocalypse as well???? Cause he said he's just like a guard for the knights and had been on the mission to find them by Meliodas

And sad for my boy Pellgarde, dude just wanted to play with Percival
 

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He said in this chapter he was told to interfere as little as possible
He also stated that he was tasked to brung Percy and co to his King, which meant alive. The narrative that each of them had to grow in those fights fails flat when they could have died, while he could have prevented it by just using the ball to teleport them.
Ofc nobody died, it's manga, but it doesn alienate reason in the charcaters choices. Sure, anything can be rationalised in the story, sadly it might not excuse it after all.
Imagine if there isn't a range on it and they coule have been there days ago....
 

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Teleporting to Liones out of nowhere is quite an abrupt shift in the story. I thought there would be a short arc in-between the Lancelot reveal and Tristan's introduction, but it looks like they might be entering the story pretty much back to back. I guess that's appropriate considering that the two of them were first mentioned back to back when Meliodas and Ban named their sons in the 2nd to last chapter of NNT. It also fits Nakaba's statement about wanting to introduce the KOTA faster than the Sins.

Not sure how I feel about the whole thing with Lancelot testing Percival. I can understand where he's coming from, but it still bothers me that he had the means to teleport to Liones this entire time. Maybe this was a last resort now that his cover has been blown and even Arthur regards him as a threat? The way Pellegarde was handled was also pretty weird. Why foreshadow his arrival if it's not actually going to amount to anything? I guess he did see Lancelot, but the crystal that Arthur was holding seemed similar to the one Pellegarde used to monitor things through his wolf familiar. In that case Arthur would already be aware of what went down.

Donny's dagger shattering like that could explain why Lancelot didn't want to use his bow to fire off the attack. Perhaps him using Shining Road in Sistana broke his spear earlier, and that's why he doesn't have it with him anymore? That would also give him a motive to go find Dubs, since he can't fight effectively without a weapon that can withstand the strain of his magic power. He did say that finding Dubs is a personal goal rather than something was ordered to do. I wonder if Donny will get another knife to replace the old one or if he's going to switch to a different weapon, maybe something that syncs well with telekinesis.

I liked how Lancelot's personality was made more nuanced in this chapter. Last week he seemed like a bit of an edgelord, but he actually does have respect for his opponents and is even willing to build graves for them. Planting seeds on the graves to promote the growth of the forest also fits well with his fairy origins.

Now that the gang is finally in Liones we'll probably be seeing some familiar faces soon. Meliodas, Elizabeth, Gil, Howzer, Griamore, Dreyfus, Hendy, Guila, maybe Jericho. Some of the couples should have kids already by now.

He also stated that he was tasked to brung Percy and co to his King, which meant alive. The narrative that each of them had to grow in those fights fails flat when they could have died, while he could have prevented it by just using the ball to teleport them.
Ofc nobody died, it's manga, but it doesn alienate reason in the charcaters choices. Sure, anything can be rationalised in the story, sadly it might not excuse it after all.
Imagine if there isn't a range on it and they coule have been there days ago....
I don't think they were ever in any danger against these guys, since Lancelot could have killed all of the Dark Talismans in seconds. The only time the party was genuinely in danger was when they faced Ironside, who actually managed to kill Percival. However, back then they absolutely had to break the COED to prevent Meliodas from being sealed away, so running away wasn't really an option.
 
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