Chapter Tower of God Chapter 529 Spoilers & Discussion

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Translated chapter(by alpha scans)----
@Demonspeed @Lady pompom please pin
 

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Well i respect you love for Androssi lol .

But i don't want to debate anymore point about character ( Maschenny ) or race ( ancient native one ) that some people may like .

In the end , i believe she can reach HR level , but that anything past top 300 is a position that is even extremely rare in history .

For example Evankhell and Yama are not even recognized as top 100 and may really be top 300 .

Honestly for me , all the jahad princess we saw at regular level were unimpressive .

When i look at Maschenny the only word that come to my mind is trash .
Well, this is a problem caused by SIU itself because we don't know anyone's placement.

Yes, both Yama and EVK may not even be in the top 200. But the reality, that nowadays is just a parameter, it doesn't indicate the real strength, maybe it will change with the war.

Tower battles have always been rare, Yuri vs Karaka was an extraordinary event, no wonder people like HJ who had been missing for thousands of years were still in the top 100. The rankings hardly change indeed, but not for lack of strength , but by starvation in the tower.

How many people did as YHS and didn't even ascend as HR? (like Drak, I've always had the impression that he's even stronger than Frog, but he's too lazy to act and that's why it's just an AR).

But the main point here is the blue holes, from the moment this was put into history, the fact that there were only 1000 HR was thrown in the trash. The classification only serves us as a parameter of strength currently and honestly, it doesn't do a good job, even because SIU does not disclose anyone's classification.

Until a few days ago, some swore that the CC were not on the same level as the top tier of the 10 families, it took the flashback to confirm and there are still those who doubt. In the end, it's all the fault of the author who doesn't have the guts to give us information for fear of getting caught.
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Look a this guy a DD of the first stupid human in the tower that scar probably an Arie that he killed
Yorari about to need hydra to face him
I believe em chi supremacy
 

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The fable says that the Tower brings/allows people it needs into it. Seeing the amount of corrupt perversion in the Tower, it could be that Bam's purpose is to bring judgement on the corrupt leadership inside it. To me Traumeiri is about as corrupt as is possible. However there could be even worse FH's, and they need to be punished.
 

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The fable says that the Tower brings/allows people it needs into it. Seeing the amount of corrupt perversion in the Tower, it could be that Bam's purpose is to bring judgement on the corrupt leadership inside it. To me Traumeiri is about as corrupt as is possible. However there could be even worse FH's, and they need to be punished.
I really hope you're wrong, sorry.

This sounds so much like hero syndrome that I would think it was stupid. Tired of everything boiled down to good and bad
 

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Maschenny in Data floor was a beast you can’t lie about it.
 

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For people who can't understand WW i have a quote about one of my favorite character who ressemble MAschenny a LOT .

Here is a discussion about 2 character in one of my best novel .

“Indeed.” Facing Fang Yuan’s deep wariness, Bai Ning Bing laughed, not caring about her own safety: “But isn’t that more exciting?”

Fang Yuan snorted, saying in displeasure: “I am not you, Bai Ning Bing.”

Bai Ning Bing nodded, she stopped smiling as brilliance flashed in her dragon eyes: “Indeed, I have been pursuing excitement all along. This is why I admire you, Fang Yuan, your life is truly exciting, it is so thrilling! Every time you plot, every time you succeed, or even every time you fail, they are filled with excitement. Especially earlier when you were ambushed by Heavenly Court and had to escape like a dog, it was truly the most thrilling experience!”

“The other Shadow Sect members cannot understand my feelings. Some just want to save Spectral Soul Demon Venerable, some feel fear and panic, some feel immense pressure, but what I feel is excitement and thrill. The bigger the problems, the bigger the troubles, the more exciting life is, isn’t that right?”

“Others might not know me, but I am sure that you understand me, right?”

Bai Ning Bing stared at Fang Yuan’s eyes with a bright gaze.

Fang Yuan was silent.

Back then on Qing Mao Mountain, he had deduced that Bai Ning Bing was a true demon. He was not wrong, that was exactly who she was. To pursue the excitement of life, she could give up anything, even her life. The values and moral concepts of normal people, the complexities of love and hatred, they were all unrelated to her.

She was different from the norm, her world view was vastly different, she only walked on her own path. She followed her own desires, she did not care about life and death.
 

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Changing the focus a bit, what do you think is the power of Acrinak?

It's clear to me that he's not a part of Rak, but another kind of ancient species. But I can't imagine how his power would match Yama.
 

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Maschenny in Data floor was a beast you can’t lie about it.
That smile at the end .

She lost the fight but she attained her dream .
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I think it depends a lot, because as far as we know the regents are the #2 in each family and they run everything, that is, they are extremely active compared to the FH.

The twins vie for leadership in the Ha family.

Kirin seems to run everything and is the head of BH.

Eduan only knows how to manage his wives skirt, so someone must run the family, maybe his most influential wife, I would kick Maschenny (mother)

And so on, I wouldn't be surprised if some families had hidden forces like the PB or Eurasia and in fact the real #2's were off the radar, but given the FH starvation I highly doubt it.
I think there is a very few chance that any family would hide they number 2 or that this person wouldn't want some level of influence .
 

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Changing the focus a bit, what do you think is the power of Acrinak?

It's clear to me that he's not a part of Rak, but another kind of ancient species. But I can't imagine how his power would match Yama.
I think he can be fuel for yama to maintain full transformation longer time.
 

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Changing the focus a bit, what do you think is the power of Acrinak?

It's clear to me that he's not a part of Rak, but another kind of ancient species. But I can't imagine how his power would match Yama.
Sort of hypnosis ?
 

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i really hope that both powers become one in yama full transformation, i don't like that independent form of fight of the ancients beast like evk's elephant and kell's bull... i want something like naruto and kurama.

i really hope that evk 100% power released be one being.
 

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i really hope that both powers become one in yama full transformation, i don't like that independent form of fight of the ancients beast like evk's elephant and kell's bull... i want something like naruto and kurama.

i really hope that evk 100% power released be one being.
I agree , i dislike the seperation of power .

It is coll , but unified power will be more powerful .

Not only that both are beast .

I woudl also like Akrinac ability to subdue people to fusion with Yama ability to dominate people .
 

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I think it depends a lot, because as far as we know the regents are the #2 in each family and they run everything, that is, they are extremely active compared to the FH.

The twins vie for leadership in the Ha family.

Kirin seems to run everything and is the head of BH.

Eduan only knows how to manage his wives skirt, so someone must run the family, maybe his most influential wife, I would kick Maschenny (mother)

And so on, I wouldn't be surprised if some families had hidden forces like the PB or Eurasia and in fact the real #2's were off the radar, but given the FH starvation I highly doubt it.
I generally agree, I think S.I.U should better quantify how one becomes a blue hole.
"Inactive" is vague: does it mean truly inactive (not doing anything) or inactive (doing things but not public and leading a family doesn't seem to be public knowledge) and with the time elapsed the RAO can't be sure that all the regents are alive and could have been replaced (except for some like the HA Twin you mentioned)
He would have to send a representative to each mother ship just to ask (it would be funny if he actually did something like that)
 

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Changing the focus a bit, what do you think is the power of Acrinak?

It's clear to me that he's not a part of Rak, but another kind of ancient species. But I can't imagine how his power would match Yama.
All the regular things.

- a huge battery of power for Yama's current arsenal
- a huge fucking summon replete with mega-blasts as we see it do to Rei's summon
- healing factor that likely exceeds standard HR healing factor, such as seen by EVK, Khel, and now we know Yama as well.


Unique for Yama/Acrinak:

- get out of jail card if in a life-threatening situation
- mastery of fear... Yama being impervious to fear or mind control, and even the future prospect of controlling others
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I don't know why but there is sentence that is lacking when you quoted , which show how you were speaking about facts , and how now you are saying that you were speaking about some trend .

Why does this question matter ?


I never even talked about preference .

I talked about availability .

Are strong host that common ? can thing like Akrinac enter every ancient one they want ? Can they possed being far away ? Can they posses full grown adult ? Can they wait in order to chose a strong being .

Beside preference there are so many thing that come into play about how guy like Akrinac transfer they power that we don't know about .

There is so many question about how they transmit they power or how that race function in general .

Which again come back to my point that barely have any info about that race .
Feel free to point out any facts I've supposedly misrepresented. And I'll correct.

Please do succinctly. I'll be waiting.
 

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Well if that chapter showed something is that people really value different thing .

WW was selfish , and yes he was a failure to his race and his family but well again he only wanted to be loyal to his master and he succeded .

He had a dream , living and giving his life for his master and he suceeded , his dream may be fucked but he followed his path .

All in all , i can see why people dislike WW .

I just want to tell @Cinera do you think Maschenny is a good girl or that she care about peace or the well being of her family ?

I think it is easy to see where i am going right @Cinera ?

Maschenny would be ready to let the tower burn is blood and flame with fucking massacre everywhere , just to achieved her dream .

In the end WW is no different from Maschenny and both seek to fulfill a stupid dream irrespective of the consequence .
I disagree.

Maschenny is willing to sacrifice everything for the sake of her ambitions.

She'll burn the Empire to the ground in order to realise her goals, but if need be, she'll also lay down her life to realise those same goals.

Maschenny's determination, drive and ambition are admirable qualities. As is her willingness to sacrifice herself.

If Maschenny only sacrificed the lives of others for her goals but was unwilling to sacrifice her own life, then she wouldn't be admirable, she would just be a coward.


In a vacuum, loyalty is an admirable trait. But the person Wang is loyal to (someone that considers his life to hold less value than dust, that killed his lover and told him to his face that he would kill his children, that cares not for his feelings or hurt, that shows him neither love nor compassion). That makes the loyalty abhorrent instead of admirable.


Someone else that is exceptionally loyal and devoted is Asensio. Data Asensio was extremely devoted to Maschenny. When Maschenny told him to be ready to lay down his life in the battle against Zahard, he immediately agreed:


The difference is that Maschenny wasn't using him as a meat shield. She wasn't throwing Asensio's life away and asking him to die for her. She was also putting her life on the line:




That Maschenny actually values Asensio. That he's someone she trusts and depends on. Someone she confides in. That's what makes Asensio's devotion to her something admirable.

If Maschenny treated Asensio as if he was worth less than the dirt under her shoes, then his loyalty would also be a deplorable trait.


It's never admirable to devote yourself to people who don't value you.




And for everyone in this thread, he quite clearly started it by tagging me and calling out Maschenny.
 
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The fable says that the Tower brings/allows people it needs into it. Seeing the amount of corrupt perversion in the Tower, it could be that Bam's purpose is to bring judgement on the corrupt leadership inside it. To me Traumeiri is about as corrupt as is possible. However there could be even worse FH's, and they need to be punished.
I really hope you're wrong, sorry.

This sounds so much like hero syndrome that I would think it was stupid. Tired of everything boiled down to good and bad
It's possibly both...

The tower 'lets' in those that are worthy. But that's only half of it if many FHs have become twisted, and if Zahard is a false king.

Clearly they showed potential. That potential can be squandered, or used for good. Whatever good means. The tower might not even care so long as the reason it was created continues. Why should it care about depravity and the death of NPCs if it is only programmed to create an axis for instance?

It's probable the tower operates by cold programming.

Or maybe it's looking for someone to rise above the trap that is to get tied down in the muck and actually burst through the upper floors.

Who knows.

I'd say it only lets in the strong as worthiness... but, Rachel. I doubt she could just sneak into the tower. Must be more to it or more to her as much as I cringe to say that.
 

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Sort of hypnosis ?
I thought about it, but it's not something that suits Yama, I expect something more destructive.
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i really hope that both powers become one in yama full transformation, i don't like that independent form of fight of the ancients beast like evk's elephant and kell's bull... i want something like naruto and kurama.

i really hope that evk 100% power released be one being.
Maybe Yama's full transformation will change when he awakens Acrinak, would be a good way.
 

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I disagree.

Maschenny is willing to sacrifice everything for the sake of her ambitions.

She'll burn the Empire to the ground in order to realise her goals, but if need be, she'll also lay down her life to realise those same goals.

Maschenny's determination, drive and ambition are admirable qualities. As is her willingness to sacrifice herself.

If Maschenny only sacrificed the lives of others for her goals but was unwilling to sacrifice her own life, then she wouldn't be admirable, she would just be a coward.


In a vacuum, loyalty is an admirable trait. But the person Wang is loyal to (someone that considers his life to hold less value than dust, that killed his lover and told him to his face that he would kill his children, that cares not for his feelings or hurt, that shows him neither love nor compassion). That makes the loyalty abhorrent instead of admirable.
That is literally what i said , that Maschenny is extremely selfish and is ready to sacrifice anything and anyone for her stupid way of living even herself .

The same WW is ready to sacrifice everything and anyone for his way of life .

In the serving Rei give WW satisfaction and Masch find satisfaction by fighting .

I still wonder how could Maschenny even be more fucked than yuri .

I wonder when character were thinking how crazy Yuri was .

She is almost cute compared to MAschenny .
 

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Baam, Enryu offered clemency to everyone who left, V cared about the inhabitants so much he started drifting away from the others
I don't count Baam. He's still in many respects a scrub and that distorts his perspective of things relative to the actual gods.
 

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I think we've all convinced ourselves that what's sealed inside the crystal is the kaiju that Rei couldn't tame.

So what kind of animal do you think it is and bet any skills?

Remembering that as WC Baam already has his orb and his Black shinsoo, as a warrior he has the RT that acts as his needle and the BT that acts as his armor inventory. Apart from evolution, I can't imagine at all what this possible shinheuh can add to Baam's powers.

By the way, do these 23 beasts need a bowl? Orari seems to send the giant snake as he pleases to places.
 

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I thought about it, but it's not something that suits Yama, I expect something more destructive.
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Maybe Yama's full transformation will change when he awakens Acrinak, would be a good way.
You guys just want ToG Susanoo
 
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