Chapter Tower of God Chapter 530 Spoilers & Discussion

[Cinera]

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Translated chapter (by alpha scans)---

Tower Of God Chapter 530 - Alpha Scans

Bam, who was alone all his life has entered the tower to chase after his only friend, Rachel, but how will he survive without having any special strength or power?“What do you desire? Money and wealth? Honor and pride? Authority and power? Revenge? Or something that transcends them all? Whatever...

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[lazybum]

What if Gustang make a cloaking device using Urek's anklet? Gustang is a scientist (though specialized in medicine) and got connection with Workshop, it's a waste to just use it on himself when and if it can be replicated.

 

[Big-Bird]

But, yes, now Gustang can go off the radar. Even more reason for him to slip in and sneak attack.

I had a theory that Gustang would use the bracelet to nerf Traum and beat him. My theory is far from the majority it seems.

 

[shaheer]

SIU predicted this arc is gonna be a drag. He even acknowledged he was being slow with the little skit some chapters back

In which case pointless flashbacks are hardly helping.
This is going more than 2 yrs now ( including hiatus)
Drag is a mild word to describe it.

 

[Jubei_Kibagami]

No. Adori and Enne take up positions #7 and #8. Both are tied for #7, but because of this, there's no #8.

So we have at least 4 spots in the Top 100 taken by Princesses. Though I suspect that it's a lot more than that.

Far enough, the point remains even if off by one. I also suggested more princesses, further driving down the possible total number of average top 100 that can be had by each GF.

Actually, no, scratch that. Princesses pull double-duty so they can be both a princess and top100 of a GF, they don't displace other randos of the GF's in the top spots as such. The number of princesses is irrelevant in the discussion of how many top100 each GF can have on average really.

He's not a Corps Commander currently.

Which is why I didn't include him. I only counted down by those confirmed.

I don't think any of these are Top 100 High Rankers. That is I don't think their actual Rank is in the double digits.

I disagree, though like I said I pointedly didn't count them. They certainly can fight on par with other top100. Yeah, yeah, that's not all there is to rank...

They are not even necessarily Ranked considering that they were sealed during Genesis. They are likely Blue Holes.

Enne was sealed as well. I think their rank is in limbo and I can see it going either way. It's not like the ranking admin didn't know exactly where they were/are and what they could do (and that they still live). The only confirmed blue hole is Khel, and he wasn't known to be alive or dead. I suspect anyone sealed is known as alive, and thus counted, like Enne.

In any event, I also did not count them.

While the CCs may be Top 100, that is not necessarily the case.

Again, I didn't count them, lol. But, I think it's highly unlikely that a CC isn't top100. By power-leveling alone, but also their station gives them plenty of notoriety.

For instance, we don't know if Khun Elliot is or isn't top 100, but he's a fucking floor ruler than can toe-to-toe with EVK (and a Khun DD). Either by position, or by power, or both he's on par with someone that was rank 60 at the time. I suspect the same of CC's and other floor rulers.



But none of this really defeats the point that there's a hard limit to the AVERAGE each family can command given that there are only so many slots in the top 100 numerically.

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I had a theory that Gustang would use the bracelet to nerf Traum and beat him. My theory is far from the majority it seems.

I don't see why not. It's obviously extremely potent. So much that Zahard did not want him to have it (or anyone for that matter), hid it where the other irregulars supposedly couldn't even go or would know to look, and THEN declared war once he knew it was in Gustang's possession.

So, yeah, I fully expect it to be something along the lines of a creation of GongBang that can do something OP, like nullify shinwonryu, or maybe even override contracts (to include immortality maybe even).

 

[SomeKindaAnimal]

Was about to complain about JH always being on the defensive but after reading the translation bro pushed them back to the starting point as expected. Did he just confirm he was rusty during his most recent battle or did I misunderstand?

 

[Sousko]

But... it's a summon.

a) it should take up no physical space, or a be any burden to travel with
b) if you're escorting a king, particularly in a time of war, you should be prepared for anything at any time
c) it does him no good at the mothership either way, it's only valuable when he has it to use on his person, thus there's only a negative to not bringing it, and no positive



I mean, we know that's SIU's *explanation* as to why he doesn't have it. Rather it comes across as an excuse.

I think this means SIU has no intention of killing anyone in that tunnel. There's ALWAYS some reason no one wins or loses completely 'clean'. I fully expect no one to win or lose now, as SIU has purposefully handicapped Owl. He wouldn't allude to his strongest ace up his sleeve just to kill him here.

Lol or maybe you over thinking it? Eagle owl could be another person of the family that he pairs well with.

 

[lazybum]

Was about to complain about JH always being on the defensive but after reading the translation bro pushed them back to the starting point as expected. Did he just confirm he was rusty during his most recent battle or did I misunderstand?

He said that Pudidy got too used dealing with weaker opponents, thus dulling his skills. And I think Jinsung reminded himself that he too was dull and suffered defeat against Kallavan, when the latter is normally weaker than Jinsung.

 

[Sousko]

I think we’re going to see Traum Vs Baam assisted with whatever is unsealed for the big battle of this arc. I’m here for it.

 

[sazon]

Obvious post is obvious, but I think 6 is the magic number of the highest average that can be had by the GF's.

100 top 100 starting

- 15 irregulars (at least, SIU has been mum of the total number of irregulars for some reason). Possibly 16 if Illarde counts.

85 top 100 left

- at least 4 known princess (although they only count as 3 spots as 2 are tied)

82 top 100 left

- 5 known insanely strong tower-born (molic, luslec, baek, evan, and jinsung are confirmed IIRC - White, Yama, Yas, Kallavan [current rank], EVK [current rank], Cha, Dowon, and probably a few I'm missing are currently unknown, but suspected top 100 if not close)

77 top 100 left

So, there's only 77 slots, max, left, and plenty of known and unknown candidates already that have to be addressed. For example, there's certainly floor rulers (of which are roughly 100+ HRs) that certainly get into the top 100 no doubt. But there are some overlaps such as EVK, and the FH's. But I can't picture a lot of weak-ass floor rulers. Some of the stronger top 100's in each family are no doubt floor rulers as well.

If each of the GF's had 6 on average tops, that's 66, leaving ONLY 11 spots between what we know is currently accounted for (77 as calculated above) and the top 100 potential of each family (some overlap, but an extra 66). Bloodmadder is a separate issue, but he certainly has adopted some top 100, no?

11 other openings still seems low considering all the potentials that aren't confirmed top 100, but seem like they should be. For instance, we have at least 3 other CC's, possibly more (if 6, 7, 8, etc corps exist - at least 1 2 and 3) and they are certainly top 100 material (Adori I believe is pulling double-duty as Corps 1 CC and Captain of the entire army). Then, there are princesses we know exist but have no rankings, I don't see why more of them aren't top100 easy.

As that doesn't leave a whole lot of wiggle room, I suspect each family having no more than 4 or 5 top100 HRs on average being closer to reality.





Not that any of this matters as SIU is a dick when it comes to giving us rankings.

Assuming that Traumerei and Ari Han are between positions 18 and 19. AND SUPPOSING that the Ha twins can be tied at 20 (so there is no possible #21), we have Maschenny, Ha Jinsung, Evan and Hagi confirmed in the top 100.

With that, there are already 25 positions filled almost officially.

In this we have: Flux, jocchun, macseth and Ashul Edwaru who are big names in the tower and should be in the top 100.

We're already on 29.

Here we go the Zahard princesses, of the 6 princesses with 13MO that we know 4 are confirmed in the top 100, so An Zahard, Pondo Zahard and Heice Zahard can also be in the top 100, and these last two participated in Enne's arrest, as well like Maschenny.

We are already in 32 positions.

In the LPB family we have 2 regents, just like in the Ha family, so I'm going to assume that in all 10 families there are 2 regents. This adds up to 18 more positions (Ilarde is included here).

We already have 50 positions, half of the top 100.

I'll be assuming there are 10 CC in Zahard's army.

So we already have 60.

I will assume that each family has 3 top 100 on average (it may vary depending on the family) outside of the regents and their FH.

We have 90 positions filled, leaving 10 positions for other less prominent organizations like Wolhaiksong and FUG.

"ah but there are only members of the empire". Basically yes, because the empire has dominated the tower for millennia, there have been no real wars since Genesis and therefore the others outside the empire and the 10 families must be Blue Hole.

Of course, regarding the 10 families, I'm just assuming the officers, it's unknown how many there are in the shadows.

And there's almost no basis, I'm just speculating~

 

[Jubei_Kibagami]

Lol or maybe you over thinking it? Eagle owl could be another person of the family that he pairs well with.

Where is Pudding's giant owl that we saw him riding in the FB then?

Which is more likely: a summoner, that summons owls, rides a giant owl, summons little owls, has an owl-theme drip, is called Owl by Rei, and references... an owl, is specifically referencing his owl summons that he didn't bring

or

Another person with Owl in their name for some reason?




Before you answer, know that eagle owls, despite their names, are OWLS and not eagles, but a type of owl.

PS, edit: eagle owls aren't JUST owls, but the *largest* owls.

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Was about to complain about JH always being on the defensive but after reading the translation bro pushed them back to the starting point as expected. Did he just confirm he was rusty during his most recent battle or did I misunderstand?

He was saying Pudding is rusty.

 

[Turtle hunter]

Forgetting this stupid fight.

Apparently, the sealed thing is extremely powerful.

Perhaps Rei really does suffer a loss here.

BH's shinheuh have already proved to be extremely strong. Windbird was able to put pressure on Paul and Doom, while the ancient snake put fear throughout HG.

Now imagine a Shinheuh strong enough that Traumerei cannot control?

I think our irregular friends are finally going to take our idiot MC seriously.

You are giving hope for some people here

Siu can simply end yas v yama in the background while showing us the final result in a panel and I wouldn't miss a thing. All these useless flashback that took on chapters with no actual content on the current stuffs is just silly.
HJ s fights are refreshing, I really don't care if he is martial arts accurate especially in a world with shinsoo and flying men.
Why can't we just see the end of this arc. Its excruciatingly long and at times pointlessly so. And almost like Siu is trying to wag around eye candies for folks to get excited only to be painted in the corner and jump to a new Room to do the same.

For me , SIU sometime have problem having good balance , lot of time i feel like for 4 or 5 chapter , the story doesn't advance .

 

[Jubei_Kibagami]

You are giving hope for some people here

You mean those reading the story correctly?

- Something Rei cannot control is about to be in the MC's hands, and specifically makes a reference to pushing Rei into the abyss, i.e. defeating him.




Yet you'll argue that the FH's are invincible and impervious from anything in the Tower until the very end, right?

Unless whatever is locked up is a previous irregular, you are about to be very, very wrong.

 

[Big-Bird]

You mean those reading the story correctly?

- Something Rei cannot control is about to be in the MC's hands, and specifically makes a reference to pushing Rei into the abyss, i.e. defeating him.




Yet you'll argue that the FH's are invincible and impervious from anything in the Tower until the very end, right?

Unless whatever is locked up is a previous irregular, you are about to be very, very wrong.

And yet Traumerai sealed it, so he defeated it

 

[shaheer]

Wonder what this voice is about. Hope it's revealed soon.
Probably will buff Bam to even more unprecedented lvl... ( A bit too used a concept by now)

 

[sazon]

Guys, for the record, the one who might be able to throw Rei into an abyss is Baam. Who says this is the voice.

 

[DeadCosmos]

Traumerei going down for sure, we got like 3 ancients= rak(lol), evankhell, yama, then we have bam thorns and suspendium power. elder sophia for lightbearer support and khun firefish to power up and revive people/ancients along with bam to sow up any body parts cut off. They got good offense and defense.

 

[shaheer]

Traumerei going down for sure, we got like 3 ancients= rak(lol), evankhell, yama, then we have bam thorns and suspendium power. elder sophia for lightbearer support and khun firefish to power up and revive people/ancients along with bam to sow up any body parts cut off. They got good offense and defense.

Come on.
You are comparing kids to a FH.
He may loose face but I doubt he will be defeated.
Also given kallavan is on their side and Siu looooooves never to show kallavan getting defeated in an all-out battle ( other than strategic set backs) I doubt FH teams are undermanned

 

[Jubei_Kibagami]

And yet Traumerai sealed it, so he defeated it

a) how so - did he have help? Did it take 2 FH's? Was it weakened by the death of its host? Did it take every summon in Rei's arsenal? Was Rei on the verge of defeat in the battle between the two? We have no clue how that went down.
b) he sealed it because he couldn't tame it, or kill it (he kills what he can't tame, and couldn't tame this, so we have to assume he couldn't kill it either)
c) it, having been sealed by Rei (circumstances unknown), believes its power is possibly sufficient in defeating Rei. If the voice isn't qualified to make that determination, who is?

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Guys, for the record, the one who might be able to throw Rei into an abyss is Baam. Who says this is the voice.

Baam references how extremely dangerous it is.

1 + 1 = 2, in that Baam will only be able to do so if he is the host of whatever the voice is. No?

 

[Turtle hunter]

You mean those reading the story correctly?

- Something Rei cannot control is about to be in the MC's hands, and specifically makes a reference to pushing Rei into the abyss, i.e. defeating him.




Yet you'll argue that the FH's are invincible and impervious from anything in the Tower until the very end, right?

Unless whatever is locked up is a previous irregular, you are about to be very, very wrong.

Let us see who will be right , i am ready to see the same dissapointment that you felt when you saw how fast Akrinac was defeated and had to say bouh bouh guy who think irregular are above everyone are now happy .

Whatever is in here , is asking a irregular help t Baam but whatever , blinded people gonna act blinded .

I mean you guys need hope , i am not gonna bash you for that . Just don't put you hope to high .

I am just gonna say , in the first arc where a irregular will really fight , SIU isn't gonna humiliate them in any way or form and it won't likely not be a newbie Baam who will make that happen .

 

[sazon]

Baam references how extremely dangerous it is.

1 + 1 = 2, in that Baam will only be able to do so if he is the host of whatever the voice is. No?

Yes, I also think that the two of them together might have a chance.