Chapter Tower of God Chapter 530 Spoilers & Discussion

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@Demonspeed @Lady pompom please pin this
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Let us see who will be right , i am ready to see the same dissapointment that you felt when you saw how fast Akrinac was defeated and had to say bouh bouh guy who think irregular are above everyone are now happy .

Whatever is in here , is asking a irregular help t Baam but whatever , blinded people gonna act blinded .

I mean you guys need hope , i am not gonna bash you for that . Just don't put you hope to high .

I am just gonna say , in the first arc where a irregular will really fight , SIU isn't gonna humiliate them in any way or form and it won't likely not be a newbie Baam who will make that happen .
The Acrinak 'fight' was a non-event because NN was lacking, not the Acrinak. We still have no idea how strong it can be exactly.


It's become beyond obvious that Ancient Powers cannot flex without a strong host. We literally see this play out with Acrinak. The only other two have migrated to strong hosts as well (Khel and EVK). We also know the NEED a host.

This is all probably due to the effect of the curse. BUT... in the right host they should be a potent danger, even to irregulars if in the case of Baam. As Baam has unlimited potential.
 

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Traumerei going down for sure, we got like 3 ancients= rak(lol), evankhell, yama, then we have bam thorns and suspendium power. elder sophia for lightbearer support and khun firefish to power up and revive people/ancients along with bam to sow up any body parts cut off. They got good offense and defense.
Im sorry, all u just mention (aside from baam) is just a bug, not to mention u also mention mere regular, please to remind tog isnt fairy tail, we dont use power of friendhip here
 

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The Acrinak 'fight' was a non-event because NN was lacking, not the Acrinak. We still have no idea how strong it can be exactly.


It's become beyond obvious that Ancient Powers cannot flex without a strong host. We literally see this play out with Acrinak. The only other two have migrated to strong hosts as well (Khel and EVK). We also know the NEED a host.

This is all probably due to the effect of the curse. BUT... in the right host they should be a potent danger, even to irregulars if in the case of Baam. As Baam has unlimited potential.
Again beside the point , i was mentionning the dissapointment you felt , about Akrinac performance nothing more .

So in the end it will still be Baam power right ?
 

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Lol did JH just admit to defeating the Odd Eyed Cobra LOL
Come to think, Jinsung is guarding access to the suspendium, did he wipe out lpb peeps in the suspendium? Yorari + Orari + guards.
 

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a) how so - did he have help? Did it take 2 FH's? Was it weakened by the death of its host? Did it take every summon in Rei's arsenal? Was Rei on the verge of defeat in the battle between the two? We have no clue how that went down.
b) he sealed it because he couldn't tame it, or kill it (he kills what he can't tame, and couldn't tame this, so we have to assume he couldn't kill it either)
c) it, having been sealed by Rei (circumstances unknown), believes its power is possibly sufficient in defeating Rei. If the voice isn't qualified to make that determination, who is?
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-It is possible, but unlikely, given that he has a particular grudge against Traum and only him.We have no reason to believe that Traum had any help.
-until proven otherwise the "thing" locked up is a shinneuh so it has no host.
-he has always won, so it doesn't matter (it's unlikely anyway, if you're fighting to capture something you don't go for it)
-true, so we have to go with the only factual information: trauma beat this thing and locked it up for thousands of years.

-Traum only kills the worthless, he didn't kill this "thing" because he wants to dominate it, it has value to him. Maybe he really can't kill it, but until that information is told the only reason Traum hasn't killed the thing is because he doesn't want to.

People think a lot of things, feelings and facts don't necessarily add up.
 

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Come to think, Jinsung is guarding access to the suspendium, did he wipe out lpb peeps in the suspendium? Yorari + Orari + guards.
Yorari and Orari are inside with Baam
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But yes everyone including the snake!
 

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Again beside the point , i was mentionning the dissapointment you felt , about Akrinac performance nothing more .

So in the end it will still be Baam power right ?
If you're asserting that either you or I - or both - are likely to be let down by the direction SIU goes with this (among other things), then, yes - agreed 100%
 

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Looks like JH is luring Owl and Holan deeper into the tunnel, only for Ascensio and Mas to unleash a mega spear attack that O & H won’t be able to escape.
Like SIU hinted via Kallavan v Lyb the lightning spear is dangerous in tight narrow spaces lol! Owl leaving his owl at home will lead to his end, his owl would of been able to spot Mas/Ascensio from afar!
 

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If you're asserting that either you or I - or both - are likely to be let down by the direction SIU goes with this (among other things), then, yes - agreed 100%
ahaha i at least admit you are funny .

Don't worry about me , i am already prepared mentally for non irregular to be able to match irregular in some way .

Not in the way you think , for example guy like Luslec , Adori or ancient one won't do it for me .

But Baam entourage may do it , for example AA or Rak , given how ridiculous they become , i don't close the possibility that SIU may give them power thanks to phantaminum or whatever .

As for Rei , i think it is way too soon for him to be defeated or to be really injured . It is the first arc where we will see them fight , so i think SIU has enough proper sense to understand that this arc isn't the one where a random beast with few developement has to shine , but rather a irregular .

But again , Kallavan vs Baam didn't really happen contrary to what end of season 2 suggested , and this whole White vs Baam thing , really make me serene about anything SIU will pull out .

I won't even talk about SIU giving Baam the power to revive people .
 

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-It is possible, but unlikely, given that he has a particular grudge against Traum and only him.We have no reason to believe that Traum had any help.
Fair, the point is more about the *fact* that we don't know the circumstances of Rei's win at the time. SIU is notorious for mitigating cirumstances. Maybe it did take two, but it was Rei that pulled the trigger on the seal. Who knows being my point.

-until proven otherwise the "thing" locked up is a shinneuh so it has no host.
Speaking of "facts," where do you get this one from?

-he has always won, so it doesn't matter (it's unlikely anyway, if you're fighting to capture something you don't go for it)
Where does this "fact" come from? Rei was unsuccessful in killing Acrinak, and we know he wanted it for his collection so much that he organized one of the biggest joint-strike armies we've seen - along with Z forces. Sometimes you have to 'go for it' if you're close to losing. Edit: a more appropriate analogy is how you have to come close to kicking a pokemon's ass to be able to then capture it. And, if you don't beat it, it could beat you instead.

-true, so we have to go with the only factual information: trauma beat this thing and locked it up for thousands of years.
Agreed. We can't conclusively state how danger it is as such. Likewise, we can't state how dangerous it isn't. Some fights if repeated can go the other way. Look no further than SIU to acknowledge that simple fact - re: his notes on Jinsung v Kallavan, or Yas v Kallavan.

-Traum only kills the worthless,
Ah, according to him - I'm sure that has nothing to do with his ego at all. So why didn't he kill or collect the Acrinak when it was right in front of him? We know it wasn't worthless to him. Probably... because he couldn't. He at best could kill the host.

he didn't kill this "thing" because he wants to dominate it, it has value to him.
We don't know that's the case at all. For all we know he's accepted he'll NEVER be able to dominate it, and he hasn't released the seal as such or even tried in all this time (which seems to be the case - a one-and-done sealing never to return). Sealing it is the best he can do in that case, and is a papering over to save face or prevent shame on the guy that claims he can control anything in the tower when he clearly cannot.

Maybe he really can't kill it, but until that information is told the only reason Traum hasn't killed the thing is because he doesn't want to.
Um, what? So until one possibility of several is proven true or false, we default to what is essentially an assumption? He either can or he can't. If he can he either knows he can or he doesn't. We have no reason to default to the assumption he can, but he just doesn't feel like it. All are possibilities. None are fact at this point. Why do you get to determine the default assumption until proven otherwise? Going by the events with the Acrinak, it doesn't even seem to be a possibility for him.

People think a lot of things, feelings and facts don't necessarily add up.
Too true!

I thought this went without saying. You seem to be operating under some assumptions yourself however.

Correct me if I've ever spoken as a matter of fact rather than speaking in degrees of likelihood. I don't think I've done that here, I'm pretty open that this is a speculative.
 
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Looks like JH is luring Owl and Holan deeper into the tunnel, only for Ascensio and Mas to unleash a mega spear attack that O & H won’t be able to escape.
Ha Jinsung: I have restored the distance I lost between us.

Ain’t no way
 

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Looks like JH is luring Owl and Holan deeper into the tunnel, only for Ascensio and Mas to unleash a mega spear attack that O & H won’t be able to escape.
Like SIU hinted via Kallavan v Lyb the lightning spear is dangerous in tight narrow spaces lol! Owl leaving his owl at home will lead to his end, his owl would of been able to spot Mas/Ascensio from afar!
A killing bottleneck would be a good move, though I don't see this playing out.

WHat surprise is that Jinsung arm seem to have no problem .
Plot Twist: Jinsung is an 'ancient beast' himself, not due to being really old and fearsome, but he too has a ancient power inside him. It gives him ridiculous regen like we see with Khel and EVK.

Turtle Hunter: *dead*
 

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Ok, so what could be extremely dangerous? Is it, LPB's 13 month? Colorless december was sealed there? What else only talks with the princesses or 13 GW blood?
 

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Ok, so what could be extremely dangerous? Is it, LPB's 13 month? Colorless december was sealed there? What else only talks with the princesses or 13 GW blood?
It doesn't mention princesses, only irregulars, and even then only the FH's. And now Baam.

I don't think it's likely to be a 13mo at all.

Combined with the fact that he went about sealing (somehow) a beast (of some sort) that he couldn't control in the flashback. That's probably one and the same with what is here.
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Although, the way this Siren Song thing is playing out with the voice, I'm getting female vibes. The first female Native One, crystal elemental. Calling it now.
 

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where is owl-eagle?
 
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