Chapter Tower of God Chapter 531 Spoilers & Discussion

[EternalWinter]

Shin Translation

Edit @Lady pompom @Demonspeed pin please

 

[O_n_Sly]

I can see Leviathan becoming a weapon like Lecalicus, wielded by Baam. Or could be a new orb for Baam similar to EVK’s use of her ancient

 

[King Dryst]

SIU. For the love of Phanta... just for once, let Baam actually go tru with his words. FOR JUST ONE FUCKING TIME ALLOW Baam TO NOT HUMILIATE HIMSELF AGAIN.

Just prepare yourself for it. I'm mostly convinced that he's going to fail at this and Leviathan is going to escape and wreak havoc. Baam then of course comes away looking like a complete ninny yet again.

When that happens, hopefully Leviathan at least serves Maschenny her just desserts for setting all this up and rips her to pieces. Before Traumerei steps in and handles it, allowing FUG to slither away while the Family Head is preoccupied. And that's what their 'victory' will be. Baam gets no credit whatsoever for anything.

 

[Ignorant]

Did you guys saw how splendid cha blocked that Hypper attack from Fucile? Just wow!

 

[Fun]

My take on chapter 531.

Karaka and Dowon were targeting Fucille instead of the mouse. It was still running until Cha and Sola were coming from the tunnel. Their meeting between each other was short-lived when the Hybrider that pursued Uub was coming too.

I think the Hybrider and Uub were there to balance their fight later. Their priority, for now, is to neutralize it.

On Leviathan, it was a byproduct of his "inner desire" that manifested in the form of a demon.

Or another alternative, Leviathan, was a shinheuh that he got when the GW was still climbing the tower. Still, its dangerous nature made it sealed in the Suspendium. It only could feed and leech of hatred as a punishment from Traumerei. After some time, it evolved into an immortal being (pseudo immortality) as long as someone/something is holding a grudge against Traumerei. In the shorter term, it was an evolved Shinheuh.

A wild guess, I think Traumerei envied who could love despite their inferiority as a being,
Meanwhile, as great as he is, he couldn't love someone due to his lingering disappointment.

On Mas, she only knows that the suspendium is a vault of the LPB family. Her to know what was specifically stored inside was a reach. Aa's saying that she knew what was stored inside was an assumption of his. The thing is, it contradicts what Mas said before. And she should be more knowledgeable than him on this matter.

 

[paulbee]

I can see Leviathan becoming a weapon like Lecalicus, wielded by Baam. Or could be a new orb for Baam similar to EVK’s use of her ancient

For my part, I feel that Bam might not need new weapons or new attacks, I feel he lacks in the power he can insert/inject into his attacks and the durability to sustain high output levels without sustaining damage to himself.

With the exception of Zahard, it feels like the other 10 GW already had great durability and power levels before coming into the tower, and they have alsogrown stronger over time inside the tower, and Bam needs to catch up and overtake them.

I would guess that at similar developmental maturity it is possible that Bam was a good match althogh their worldy experiences would have differed given tha Bam grew up in a cave. If Bam's attacks and his stamina are boosted up by the huge levels possessed by the Leviathan that in itself would be okay with me.

 

[EternalWinter]

Why would Baam allow White to consume Traum’s soul instead of devouring it himself?

Baam doesn't have soul magic beyond the little white thought him. He doesn't have the contract to straight convert it upwards like White

Why hasn't Baam been consuming all the thousands of souls lost at the nest then lol

 

[King Dryst]

Baam doesn't have soul magic beyond the little white thought him. He doesn't have the contract to straight convert it upwards like White

He didn't before. He might now, having absorbed the crown after Hoaqin's defeat.

 

[Phantaminum]

So now we know what is inside the suspendium, Laevatian. Now looking back at Mascheny's caller "You did not forget about the promise between our families right?" then Ha Jinsung later said "I thought she(Mascheny) was just a baby water snake who loved to fight around. It turns out she is a baby dragon that even the ocean cannot hold in." What in the world Mascheny is trying to do that correlates what Ha Jinsung's trying to imply and even said Mascheny is a complicated woman and he hopes Bam just let him be sealed away.

 

[EternalWinter]

Baam now has the crown, and with that the possible potential to start just devouring souls himself. Vincente might have to go and hunt his own meals. Baam is usually disinclined to share.



And people try to say Gustang is full of shit. Did the man not call White a bug?

Where do you see the crown. Vincente is still the sorcerer of the team

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He didn't before. He might now, having absorbed the crown after Hoaqin's defeat.

It was pretty clear that Abelda didn't get swallowed by Baam, she pulled Hoaquin back into HIS body, not vice versa

 

[O_n_Sly]

Baam took all white’s power, including the demon lol! Thus why Vicente is able to take control!

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My take on chapter 531.

Karaka and Dowon were targeting Fucille instead of the mouse. It was still running until Cha and Sola were coming from the tunnel. Their meeting between each other was short-lived when the Hybrider that pursued Uub was coming too.

I think the Hybrider and Uub were there to balance their fight later. Their priority, for now, is to neutralize it.

On Leviathan, it was a byproduct of his "inner desire" that manifested in the form of a demon.

Or another alternative, Leviathan, was a shinheuh that he got when the GW was still climbing the tower. Still, its dangerous nature made it sealed in the Suspendium. It only could feed and leech of hatred as a punishment from Traumerei. After some time, it evolved into an immortal being (pseudo immortality) as long as someone/something is holding a grudge against Traumerei. In the shorter term, it was an evolved Shinheuh.

A wild guess, I think Traumerei envied who could love despite their inferiority as a being,
Meanwhile, as great as he is, he couldn't love someone due to his lingering disappointment.

On Mas, she only knows that the suspendium is a vault of the LPB family. Her to know what was specifically stored inside was a reach. Aa's saying that she knew what was stored inside was an assumption of his. The thing is, it contradicts what Mas said before. And she should be more knowledgeable than him on this matter.

Your Leviathan rationale makes no sense! It was hatched from one of the eggs that was stored inside the Nest!

 

[Cinera]

Am i the only one who is a bit dissappointed with the monster's design. The mouth looks cool, but it being a dragon seems a bit too generic. I personally prefer Acrinack's design

It's not supposed to be a dragon. It's a Biblically accurate rendition of Leviathan. The creature looks like how it was described in Job 41.

Given the accuracy, I really would not change the design at all.

Looking at the chapter fully leviathan looks pretty hype I like the horns look intimidating at least, but I don't get overwhelming power feeling from it, bam usually has good instincts for this stuff, he doesn't seem that worried about beating it obviously because the sun is broken, but still he doesn't look flustered just mildly concern for the people out the Tower cause leviathan is an edgelord apparently, reminds me how much of an edgelord blue t used to be until told it shut up or face the sun.

What on earth are you reading. Baam said of this creature:

• It is extremely dangerous.
• It is too dangerous to be released into the world.
• Releasing it is a sin against the world.
• It's power is dangerous.

Here's how Leviathan is described in the Bible:

33 Nothing on earth is its equal—
a creature without fear.

34 It looks down on all that are haughty;
it is king over all that are proud.”

That was adapted near exactly for this Leviathan.

A Biblically accurate rendition of Leviathan is an incredibly scary thing.

Can you just edit your post to add shin's translation in too?

Done.

 

[Arjuna]

Where do you see the crown. Vincente is still the sorcerer of the team

When Khun was thinking about how strong Baam became after absorbing White's power basing it on their (himself and Rak) own power increase we see a panel of the crown indicating the crown might have passed to Baam.

 

[lianecel]

If its following leviathan based on the bible, than traumerei must be beat the shit out of it long time ago, cause in the bible leviathan is the most arrogance creature and strongest creature in the sea, so strong to the point that it only can beaten by his creator aka god himself

If this leviathan follow the bible once then it got its ass smack by traumerei long time ago

 

[Cinera]

But will SIU keep the theme later?


Binsfeld's classification of demons[edit]
As part of his 1589 Treatise on Confessions by Evildoers and Witches, Peter Binsfeld prepared a classification of demons known as the Princes of Hell. Like the Lanterne of Light, Binsfeld used the seven deadly sins as a basis, though the two schemes differ in various ways.[16][17][18]

1. Lucifer: pride
2. Mammon: greed
3. Asmodeus: lust
4. Leviathan: envy
5. Beelzebub: gluttony
6. Satan: wrath
7. Belphegor: sloth

It's associated with hatred here.

Owl is not CC level but still recognized that JH is…

Owl is Corps Commander level.

All this big talk but it doesn’t make sense, it was never free! How can it be strong enough to go against the king, but yet was sealed by Traum lol!

If it's like what you guys said, Leviathan is born from Tra-o, then maybe he has some ego of him. That might explain why he's saying he's stronger than the ancients. He has seen their powers and has assessed them. Or the second scenario is that Leviathan has probably roamed inside the tower and not get subjugated immediately. It has seen Tra-o's shinheuh and maybe some ancient species. So it makes sense that it thinks it is above every creature.

This is just an adaptation of the Biblical description of Leviathan:

33 Nothing on earth is its equal—
a creature without fear.

34 It looks down on all that are haughty;
it is king over all that are proud.”

 

[O_n_Sly]

Baam doesn't have soul magic beyond the little white thought him. He doesn't have the contract to straight convert it upwards like White

Why hasn't Baam been consuming all the thousands of souls lost at the nest then lol

Baam didn’t activate the spell until the end of the 1st Wall, White had already consumed the dead! Soul Magic? All white does is burn the souls, create weapons and absorb new souls!

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Owl is Corps Commander level.

No he’s not! Or else he’d fight JH himself allowing Holan to pass! As JH stated the guy is overrated, he only fights weaker opponents!

 

[Cinera]

Possible Baam sobriquet:

- ancient
- armored
- strongest bite ever in any marine life
- vacuumed prey in
- could bite other lesser fish, such as sharks, in half

Thanks for the info, but this wouldn't work.

• Wave Controllers are traditionally named after waves or bodies of water.
  • See Gustang's "Lonely/Aloof Wave"
  • Maybe Baam will be named "Tsunami" or similar.
• Some Irregulars are named in a special fashion.
  • Enryu was called the Red Tower because he turned the Tower's shinsu red when he appeared.
    • Baam creates black rain, so maybe he'll be the Black Tower.
  • Zahard is named "King of the Tower".
    • If Baam kills Zahard, then maybe "King Slayer".
    • If Baam kills one of the Family Leader's then maybe "God Slayer" or "God's Bane".
  • Baam has been foreshadowed to be "the worst monster of all" and a monster that will devour the Tower.
    • Maybe he'll be given the name of some evil deity hell bent on destruction.

When that happens, hopefully Leviathan at least serves Maschenny her just desserts for setting all this up and rips her to pieces.

If Baam fails to tame Leviathan, all that will happen is that it will become another one of Maschenny's pawns.

The chances of Leviathan hurting her in any form are nonexistent.

Hell, Jinsung said that she's a massive serpent too big to remain in the sea:

(Line chose to use "python", but some translations use "dragon" and some use "Leviathan").


I've said it before, but between Traumerei and Maschenny, if anyone dies at the Nest, it'll be Traumerei.

 

[Arjuna]

Thanks for the info, but this wouldn't work.

• Wave Controllers are traditionally named after waves or bodies of water.
  • See Gustang's "Lonely/Aloof Wave"
  • Maybe Baam will be named "Tsunami" or similar.
• Some Irregulars are named in a special fashion.
  • Enryu was called the Red Tower because he turned the Tower's shinsu red when he appeared.
    • Baam creates black rain, so maybe he'll be the Black Tower.
  • Zahard is named "King of the Tower".
    • If Baam kills Zahard, then maybe "King Slayer".
    • If Baam kills one of the Family Leader's then maybe "God Slayer" or "God's Bane".
  • Baam has been foreshadowed to be "the worst monster of all" and a monster that will devour the Tower.
    • Maybe he'll be given the name of some evil deity hell bent on destruction.

If Baam fails to tame Leviathan, all that will happen is that Maschenny successfully gets her hands on it.

Baam's sobriquet should be "Black Hole", pretty fitting.


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I don't think any Regular will be able to use Leviathan,only Irregulars can so Baam is gaining this power.

 

[Cinera]

I can buy that bam would detect how dangerous the leviathan is.. but it also feels like bam didn't even bother to reason with it. You'd think bam would at least awkwardly try to reason with something before enslaving him. Maybe this is part of the dark change? not sure of what the deal with vicente is this chapter but I still think this could end up being a setup for him. The leviathan definitely looks like something that could power up a spell for him.

Leviathan is almost certainly going to Baam. That or it will be completely released.

The bit about the leviathan's origins is weird. He is above everything and predates everything but traumerei birthed him? That doesn't check out at all. Maybe traumerei created it's current form and at some point before he had another?

Leviathan doesn't predate everything, it's just above everything. And that's keeping with the Bible's description of it:

33 Nothing on earth is its equal—
a creature without fear.

34 It looks down on all that are haughty;
it is king over all that are proud.”

The translation seems to hint that fucile is not a cat? I suppose yaratcha is not the type to force people to become cats but its weird that fucile isn't a cat.

He's an authentic and genuine Lo Po Bia. He may even be one of their spies in the 5th Corps.

 

[Kunrin]

Maschenny doesn't underestimate Baam. She was just factual in her assessment that he was weaker than her.

She has very high expectations of Baam.

She said that she wants him to become a raging tide like the Tower has never seen before:

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She called him a monster:

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And in him, she sees the visage of Zahard:

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I think Maschenny was trying to power up Baam for his fight with Traumerei:

Discussion - Maschenny Wants Baam to Fight Traumerei

At the beginning of the Nest, Maschenny wondered to herself what Baam was capable of: An alternate translation from Adios: I wonder what the Irregular can even do here. So one of her chief motivations when coming to the Nest was to see what Baam was truly capable of. She then goes on to...

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Baam weaker than Mas? You did not just say that...

 

[Cinera]

On Mas, she only knows that the suspendium is a vault of the LPB family. Her to know what was specifically stored inside was a reach. Aa's saying that she knew what was stored inside was an assumption of his. The thing is, it contradicts what Mas said before. And she should be more knowledgeable than him on this matter.

• New information is ceteris paribus more trustworthy than old information.
  • SIU has already retconned some of Maschenny's earlier information about the Frozen Waterfall.
    • Time does not stand still in the Frozen Waterfall.
    • It can apparently be operated more frequently than once a year.
  • He very well could have changed his mind in the two years since Maschenny first spoke about the Frozen Waterfall.
• AA specifically addressed Maschenny saying that she doesn't know what's inside.
  • He said that even though she claims not to know what's inside, she seems certain about it.
• AA also said that the thing Maschenny wanted was most likely Leviathan.
• AA is rarely wrong on these things.

With the exception of Zahard, it feels like the other 10 GW already had great durability and power levels before coming into the tower, and they have alsogrown stronger over time inside the tower, and Bam needs to catch up and overtake them.

This is nonsense. Zahard beat Hon 10 times in 10 matches before they entered the Tower.

What in the world Mascheny is trying to do that correlates what Ha Jinsung's trying to imply and even said Mascheny is a complicated woman and he hopes Bam just let him be sealed away.

When did Jinsung say that she's a complicated woman?

Your Leviathan rationale makes no sense! It was hatched from one of the eggs that was stored inside the Nest!

This was never said to be the case.