Games Mafia Game 100 - End Game

[GrySun]

Recording votes currently, hopefully it works all night while I sleep.

Moved my placeholder vote to DD, don't want to scare marm tomorrow as she wakes up with 2 votes xD

Night.

You could make it easier by making the script run only near the last hour Think that‘s by far the most likely time for people to pull changes.

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But well, honestly happy about the game being vanilla, been wanting a pure one like this for a while, even considered hosting one but wanted to play it more than host it

That‘s my line! You got to play my Puyo game that was vanilla-ish.

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Makes me think we should hint properly to help the pirate a bit, buuut at the same time we also don't want to put the doc etc in the spotlight too much to keep them alive

That‘s not a good idea at all. I see a lot of different good ways to use Pirate here without showing mafia who the Doc is.

 

[Demonspeed]

I speed read and had missed the Secondary role thing.

The poll is set to close automatically, so that not the issue.

The issue is that there is no history for vote change, meaning people could vote X then switch to Y in the last few minutes of a day, and unless we are all refreshing we won't see it.

All polls are like this.

 

[Erinyes]

Still at work, will catch back when back home. I'll do my best to keep track of the votes when on on a computer, but it's tricky things can change when we re busy or asleep.

As for scondaries roles, traitor sounds the most plausible, possibly lovers too, sickly too due to the impact in the votes it can have in a small game.

 

[GrySun]

Currently DD is the first to break the convention and vote silently, for an SS player this is weird.

Still in line with what he usually does, voting without saying why. So it‘s weird objectively, but with the context that it‘s DD it‘s not weird.

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I agree, which is why I asked marm above to not hint, that was first thing in the day before I thought about it.

So you agree but did it anyway? Did you read the opening post before writing your post or not?

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Lovers are always Mafia-Townie though, but who knows, maybe Panda finally lost his mind and went full 3 Mafias 3 Lovers on us. XD

No that‘s against the rules, must be different starting alignments at least, and unless they‘re hiding a TP by listing as Townie it could only be town+mafia.

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Hm I‘d have put a Psychiatrist in here.

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I also wonder how we are supposed to find Mafia without a Detective

Did you never play vanilla games before, or irl, or in other forums? You‘re meant to find mafias by what they say and do, not by who Dets/Prostitute/Spy point at.

 

[Marmalade]

Going to be afk for a few hours as work needs my attention. Should be back in 4ish hours

 

[GrySun]

Yeah be more liberal and I don't care what you vote, but I will also point out that I answered your concern and that you ignored my answer and went back to your original theory, to me it sounds like you found something to grab unto for today

Lol this is waaay too much defensive for someone that doesn‘t care. You saw that I was still slowly backreading so you should‘ve known that I did not „ignore your answer“ but didn‘t get to it yet, yet you still are framing it as an attack Shad did I strike gold?

 

[Shad]

Still in line with what he usually does, voting without saying why. So it‘s weird objectively, but with the context that it‘s DD it‘s not weird.

For the guy who said to justify votes, you are making an 180 on DD, something is fishy here.

So you agree but did it anyway? Did you read the opening post before writing your post or not?

To me this looks like an attempt to trigger me, I've replied this already and you choose to reask it.
I give you an answer, then showed you a post that shows that I actively was stoping marm from hinting and you ignored it twice.
The second time you ignored me and answered marm directly to tell her what I said.

Dude I'm not in the mood to deal with scum Gry, just vote whoever you see fit.

 

[Demonspeed]

How is it even weird to vote for someone without saying anything in this game when everyone can see it via the poll? No one can really miss it.

 

[Riku]

Hm, funny that it ain't written in the rules but there's a plain mafia member role in MG, it has been in games multiple times.
In a 13 people game, 3 plain mafias seem a bit 'weak' tho (with 14 players, they'd have 4 members) so we should expect 'surprises'. They mentioned that secondary roles are hidden, so that could be another indication. On the other hand, town has mostly vanilla members, but still numbers wise I'd be expecting someone to turn sides cause that's what that rule is about, imo following weird interactions or attention seeking gestures could be worthy and I'm saying this from the start to maybe cause some anxiety on said person(s) if that's the case. If we ignore the secondary roles mention tho, then a vanilla being recruitable wouldn't fit what I just mentioned, so hopefully behavior shifts later on would be noticeable. But uh... don't expect those 3 hosts to add some "spice" that is easy to narrow down tho... But yeah, sharing my thoughts on the setup so far.

Yeah, seems quite likely that there is some hidden stuff. Traitor, Sleeper, Sickly etc. in this setup.

Inb4 mafia is just their 3 sorry plain arses but we have 2 town lovers huh~

Please God no.

Morning, it doesn't seem like we will have many topic of discussions today.


Overreacting to a placeholder vote, sounds like I found who I'm voting today.

Did your script work, I didn't see you mentioning anything about it? Are you planning to share your findings or keep them to your own knowledge?

I personally don't see the poll as a big problem. We can just keep notes peridocally. the ending period might be trickier, but not too tricky imho.

@Copy Panda is there anything rules-wise that would prohibit players from just screen shotting the poll and adding it to the thread? Mechanically doesn't sound to me too different from just quoting old posts, but making sure from you.

Actually, brainstorming a bit just thought about the possibility of this being a "secondary fest" too, like several traitors and even lovers for the laughs. If thats the case we might not be able to trust beyond our own shadow.

I take it Hosts can just screenshot the poll at the set time. Any further changes will be not accounted for.

While everything is plausible, still the fact that they marketed this as stripped-down throwback game makes me doubt there is anything too crazy going on. I want to belief they wouldn't mislead on purpose.

 

[Shad]

Did your script work, I didn't see you mentioning anything about it? Are you planning to share your findings or keep them to your own knowledge?

I personally don't see the poll as a big problem. We can just keep notes peridocally. the ending period might be trickier, but not too tricky imho.

@Copy Panda is there anything rules-wise that would prohibit players from just screen shotting the poll and adding it to the thread? Mechanically doesn't sound to me too different from just quoting old posts, but making sure from you.

As I said before going to sleep, it is recording I will make a UI when I have time, currently there is no point to share it.
I will share it before day end you will only need it for night analysis.

 

[GrySun]

For the guy who said to justify votes, you are making an 180 on DD, something is fishy here.

His first vote is never justified, you know this yet are trying to shade DD is what I see here.

To me this looks like an attempt to trigger me, I've replied this already and you choose to reask it.

No you didn‘t reply to it. You said you only „thought of it later“, which is very very vague and doesn‘t specify enough. You‘re just brushing it off. You not responding to me asking specifically looks even worse.

I give you an answer, then showed you a post that shows that I actively was stoping marm from hinting and you ignored it twice.

You pretend like you answered the question of mine that you quoted here but you didn‘t. Show me where you said if you posted your hint before or after reading the opening post.

The Marm thing happened later, and looks like a complete odd 180 in retrospect.

 

[Riku]

Oh, just saw that Shad plans to make a public interface for anyone to track the changes.

 

[GrySun]

How is it even weird to vote for someone without saying anything in this game when everyone can see it via the poll? No one can really miss it.

Weird to not say why you voted, not that you did.

 

[Shad]

His first vote is never justified, you know this yet are trying to shade DD is what I see here.



No you didn‘t reply to it. You said you only „thought of it later“, which is very very vague and doesn‘t specify enough. You‘re just brushing it off. You not responding to me asking specifically looks even worse.



You pretend like you answered the question of mine that you quoted here but you didn‘t. Show me where you said if you posted your hint before or after reading the opening post.

The Marm thing happened later, and looks like a complete odd 180 in retrospect.

Which part of do whatever you want you didn't get dude?

 

[Riku]

As I said before going to sleep, it is recording I will make a UI when I have time, currently there is no point to share it.
I will share it before day end you will only need it for night analysis.

Well, definitely more useful after the first day, but wouldn't count out that it would be useful to keep track now already. But it's your system so I recon you know the best how make it work.

 

[GrySun]

Which part of do whatever you want you didn't get dude?

Man it‘s Day 1 and you‘re already collapsing.

Technically writing more to you is also in the scope of „doing whatever I want“ thanks.

 

[Demonspeed]

Weird to not say why you voted, not that you did.

Day 1 though? I don't think so.

 

[Riku]

How is it even weird to vote for someone without saying anything in this game when everyone can see it via the poll? No one can really miss it.

They can miss the changes. We don't have a proofed working system for that yet. For a sake of open communication and information, I'd prefer that people post when they vote. Not doing so seems a bit shady.

 

[Shad]

Man it‘s Day 1 and you‘re already collapsing.

Technically writing more to you is also in the scope of „doing whatever I want“ thanks.

Technically I can also do whatever I want, and spamming is better than arguing in bad faith, so I'm happy to get you down to this level

 

[GrySun]

Day 1 though? I don't think so.

Even if it‘s random better to say it than not imo. You never know which bits of info will be more relevant later on.

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Technically I can also do whatever I want, and spamming is better than arguing in bad faith, so I'm happy to get you down to this level

I don‘t get what I said that got you this much panicking. You could‘ve said you were tired, sleepy, or didn‘t read first post before posting etc etc, yet all I‘m getting back from you is screaming.
And no more soft gloves for you, you do irrational moves as both town and mafia so won‘t be treating it as confused town Shad.