Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

[GL_Nova]

there is a difference, one had their guard down, and the other did not considering lightning harmed them prior to RL used, he may not know of the new mode, but it is not the same as not having their guard up since his defenses were breached prior, so that is more reason to maximize his defenses to prevent such a thing from happening. that link only proves my point. there is nothing to push when the narrative clearly states what a superior being to others give an acknowledgement over others can, there is when neither of your forms are immune to almost every type of damage in existance apart from physical draconic attacks, they don't as they do not have feats better than that of other characters like the Phoenix who could end the world, and Zeref scales to that, and FH Zeref could basically destroy the universe and recreate it. And yet they both went for a double knockout in their official match and even in their first match they were giving each other fair exchanges, and some of FT's best acknowledged her strength to contend with him. Hades is relevant as neither could match, and yet Natsu did more which logically shouldn't make any more difference, and yet he only led an assault when Hades was massively nerfed, basically a coward then. character growth? or stupidity if he had all that strength. When she was struck by Laxus' lightning while distracted and with no guard up and then got up moments later to attack him. Gildarts did not oneshot him though, if it was so easy then he wouldn't allow himself to be wounded in the first place, especially against a historia who he acknowledged to be a worthy enemy, you mean August who was just messing around with Gildarts nonchalant? your "interpretation" is almost as good as mine. his organs didn't fail till after his reaction to Wall's attack which he was worried about it's power, again, your interpretation versus the manga showings. training his Red Lighting mode, that is basically it, https://v2.mangapark.net/manga/fairy-tail-100-years-quest-mashima-hiro/i2312639/c044/6. it is Selene said that their battle would result in mutual destruction, if you said that her word is true then that means that is true as well, until Ignia actually shows him one shotting a DG then no, even his Dragon Form would have trouble against a nerfed DG.

No, there isn’t. As shown in the panels already provided. Kirin had no more defense up than his atmo shield and as shown was surprised by the RL breaking through and sending him flying. They were both equally surprised by the attack. Kirin’s atmo shield has already been shown to just be up during these attacks. What do you have to suggest they don’t have the same levels of surprised here?


Dude what? She didn’t get more than a, I’m surprised you’re thing good at magic. No, your the best I’ve faced. No, I’ve never met a mage on this level. None of that happened. Being told you’re stronger than I am, and convincing a DG to change their entire strategy because you could help them win is completely different. I don’t get why you went on the tangent about how strong Zeref and Acnologia are when it’s never at all suggested she’s anywhere close to them. We even have her statement that he’s beyond what she can do. Not as impressive as, yo, you’re honestly more than I could handle in my human form.

Natsu couldn’t do anything until he got Laxus power. An that’s what made him able to destroy Hades the way he did. Same as Laxus did more damage in his opening salvo than their entire group assault. Same as him tanking that attack and still leading the charge against Hades for the final victory without the tree. None of which you’ve managed to counter, especially because all the heart being destroyed did was leave him with his own magic reserves and no way to heal. It didn’t weaken his magic in any way. An Laxus has some of the best character development in the entire series. To have gone from the man who tried to take down the entire guild, to giving up all his magic because the guild should have this victory is massive. It’s worrying you couldn’t see that.

what are you talking about bro? Seriously

You really be jumping around brodi. Gildarts pwned GS, he destroyed all his attacks and launched him with the only spell he used. The fact he tanked all the DS magic being thrown at him is more impressive than anything else. In addition August is literally relying on his hax. The second it was circumvented, he committed Suicide.

Please walk me through that being him scared? I’m just not seeing the fear on his face bro. Annoyance, frustration, but not fear.

Again? How does this say anything to contradict the previous comments about Laxus spending his time training?


Yeah, Selene says it. She thought she was gonna own Suzaku until he put her down, so clearly she’s not infallible in her readings. When’s the last time she fought Ignia? Why should I give more credence to her making that claim than to Ignia’s confidence that beating all the other DG will make Natsu at least strong enough to entertain him. If he also thought he’d lose in a battle with them, that sounds like a long term suicide attempt.

 

[WoWfan]

yes he did as he was cutting through it as the atmosphere itself was his defense, passing his lightning through the ground bypasses it so that means he can’t afford to let down his guard, where as Wall basically was immune to most of Laxus’ attacks and was physically stronger than Laxus, it wasn’t till the very last moment where he was already made contact that he caught Wall off guard, that is the difference Wall only had one surprise where his guard was down, Kirin was surprised with his guard up. so you are saying that DG are not on Acno level then? He was knocking around Hades, which is about as affective as Laxus was knocking around hades, Hades was beyond anyone’s level at that point. I did, you are forgetting that he only led the charge after hades lost his powers, something you have not countered, which made him practically equivalent to a weak old man, yes it did as it is stated that the heart is what granted him immeasurable power and longevity which life force is required for Magic, heck even Capricorn could hurt Hades at that point, in fact, the only relative damage Laxus did manage to give was his first attack when Hades was caught off guard by Laxus resembling Makarov. I did, it was still unnecessary though since he could have ended it by your logic. Pwned means he took no damaged, yet he did from a weakened version of GS, clearly he did not since Gildarts took damage, used multiple spells did not know what you meant by that, those DS that drew blood from Gildarts is more impressive as gildarts says he would have been formidable challenge, not entirely as he was tossing around Gildarts and Cana like they are nothing, he was emotional considering he was wondering why he was not loved, he was shocked by the immense power that Wall has, even took the measure to dodge it instead of straight up taking it, you can see even sweat from him, unless it is explicitly stated to train his other spells besides RL, it is only that, she said that after she tricked Suzaku, she even said she would not mind being defeated by him because he has her son’s power, it is not a matter of if they fought, if a knowledge based DS said they are on the same level then that would be the case.

 

[Kenneth Latorre]

Bump.

Lucy officially top tier.

 

[WoWfan]

sounds like from Sorcerer Weekly tweet that Lucy is now Erza level or higher since she can use Gemini for Erza.

 

[One4All]

sounds like from Sorcerer Weekly tweet that Lucy is now Erza level or higher since she can use Gemini for Erza.

Maybe regular armor Erza level?BSS Mira level?I don't see Lucy being equal to Erza though even with the recent showings.

 

[Kiki]

sounds like from Sorcerer Weekly tweet that Lucy is now Erza level or higher since she can use Gemini for Erza.

Is that canon? They were just water clones

 

[Seven777]

If that's canon, that means Kyria just oneshot Erza. Sorcerer Weekly is probably just giving out their theory or something

 

[Kenneth Latorre]

If that's canon, that means Kyria just oneshot Erza. Sorcerer Weekly is probably just giving out their Hypothesis or something.

Not really since Lucy only got her power up by the end, where she was the one to one-Shot.

and yes, it is just their opinion.

 

[Star Frost]

Is that canon? They were just water clones

He deleted tho. Pretty sure it’s just his opinion until he rethought about it lol

 

[WoWfan]

Is that canon? They were just water clones

they had a tweet about that.

 

[kenedyfake]

they had a tweet about that.

If it was a real copy of Erza with Gemini, Lucy wouldn't even need to do all that drama and invoke a spell that needs 3 people, so the clone of Erza or Natsu would already obliterate Kyria with no diff, it doesn't make any sense.

 

[WoWfan]

If it was a real copy of Erza with Gemini, Lucy wouldn't even need to do all that drama and invoke a spell that needs 3 people, so the clone of Erza or Natsu would already obliterate Kyria with no diff, it doesn't make any sense.

well Gottfried is a power that requires more than 1 person, and gemini can be used to raise the power of spells such as Unrano Metria when in unison when there is more than just her, so in a sense, they are real, and remember, they are from her memories so, they are as strong as she remembers them.

 

[Kiki]

they had a tweet about that.

Its just a clone. No statement was found in chapter 103. Kiria even said they were all clones

 

[WoWfan]

Its just a clone. No statement was found in chapter 103. Kiria even said they were all clones

Technically Gemini is a clone of other people

 

[Ronin31]

They were water clones with illusions of being Erza and co. Only to trick Kyria. Not real copies like Jade and Yukino who are below Lucy's magic level to cast them. Gemini can't copy people with higher Magic's level from Lucy. Lucy and Wendy are still the weakest in the team.

Water clones without substance.

 

[Anime VORTEX]

They were water clones with illusions of being Erza and co. Only to trick Kyria. Not real copies like Jade and Yukino who are below Lucy's magic level to cast them. Gemini can't copy people with higher Magic's level from Lucy. Lucy and Wendy are still the weakest in the team.

Water clones without substance.

Her name is hisui not jade

 

[Ronin31]

Her name is hisui not jade

all right, sorry .

 

[Star Frost]

They were water clones with illusions of being Erza and co. Only to trick Kyria. Not real copies like Jade and Yukino who are below Lucy's magic level to cast them. Gemini can't copy people with higher Magic's level from Lucy. Lucy and Wendy are still the weakest in the team.

Water clones without substance.

You sure Wendy isn't stronger than Gray now?

 

[Ronin31]

You sure Wendy isn't stronger than Gray now?

For me, she isn't. And by some mergin. But I respect people's opinion on the subject.

Wendy is only the best character against people using Hax or Abnormal making spell as she can cure and erase that.
She was, with Irene as teacher, the best character to face Haku. Against warriors like Suzaku or Kirin, Wendu is clearly useless.
She serves as support since the beginning, this is her way.

 

[WoWfan]

They were water clones with illusions of being Erza and co. Only to trick Kyria. Not real copies like Jade and Yukino who are below Lucy's magic level to cast them. Gemini can't copy people with higher Magic's level from Lucy. Lucy and Wendy are still the weakest in the team.

Water clones without substance.

I don’t think they are illusions as the spell Gottfried requires multiple wizards, so they have to have substance to compliment the spell, and since Gemini is involved they would have the same power for the job, and Wendy is currently higher than most of the team right now.