Chapter Tower of God Chapter 539 Spoilers & Discussion

[shaheer]

Alpha scans released the latest.. perhaps pin it if it's not already posted
https://alpha-scans.org/tower-of-god-chapter-539/

 

[sazon]

Jokers that SIU has planted over the course of this arc:

The Hybrid: A creature that not even Yasratcha can subdue and was said to be given by Zahard (there may be controversies here), Yas was able to escape Rei's control by researching this being. So something special he has.

The Captain: He or they have known about this war since genesis, so in the end, they might already have it all figured out, including the arrival of Troymerei.

Luslec: It was said that he wouldn't move because an FH might step in, but at this point it doesn't matter because an FH is already here.

Gustang: Having Baam controlled by Troymerei would be bad for your plans.

Maschenny: She knows Rei is here and knows he wants Baam but doesn't seem to care too much, meaning she has insurance, probably whoever is behind her.

The bomb: We know the SIU, the fact that it has this bomb (which is probably the Hybrid) and it is capable of killing even an HR says enough that it is capable of causing chaos.

 

[kakarot5481]

Can anybody keep raw scans link

 

[sazon]

Baam had already gone through his first revolution with the guardian god, and he was already very strong back then, you are simply telling me that baam is not going to feel fear for something that is infinitely superior to what he saw there, the normal reaction for this baam would be to simply tremble a little or show his terror, this is not a game, this is a family leader with all his power who we are talking about.

But he was not a complete existence as he later became.

And why should Baam fear the existence of Troymerei when he is his equivalent?

Just the fact that he is aware of his current difference is already consistent with the situation.

Baam is not the towerborn, he doesn't have to feel inferior to another irregular.

 

[Aetherventus258]

If you admit to a hierarchy, then you are admitting to subordination by default.

Zahard doesn't have to rule the FHs with an iron fist for them to consider him their king, irrespective of what they think about it.

Was it not already implicit that all heads of families, even with their position, were accountable to Zahard? He may not be their boss, but he clearly maintains control over all of them, so that not even gustang who hates him, would turn against him were it not for the fact that he has the script on his side(baam).

 

[Sky is blue]

I can already see it ,

Jinsung comes running towards bam screaming viole! Traumerei kills him for talking between thier conversation
few hours later traumerei in bam tummy meets levithan : hhahahhaa now you know how it likes to be sealed?
Traumerei : shut up i will control him from inside!
sun: ....
Traumerei: .....

On a more serious note , jinsung shouldn't die untill he teach baam dragon tiger gate and say sorry to him( as he revealed in last station arc he wanted to say sorry to bam but he just couldn't bring himself to say it)
It should more like when traumerei attacks jinsung for barging between thier conversation baam somehow deflects it/ or just move jinsung aside from range of attack

Traumerei take this as offence and says if baam doesn't agree to it willingly then he don't have any other choice but to use force
And then he decides to show baam the overwhelming diffrence between them and then baam, jinsung , yama , yastracha and kallavan ? ( Maybe he will decide to join baam after seeing that literally a c rank regular is going against a fh and he isn't keeping his promise .....either way i fully expect kallavan to help team baam for atleast now otherwise there was no meaning for siu to suddenly give such power up) , maschenny , yastracha , fug elder? To go against traumeri

Continuation
Baam is definitely not gonna accept traumerie offer , since hwaryun forshadowed that in this place new chapter will be written at the history of tower
Either baam escapes or traumerei die since if you remember when khun asks her is it alright to let kallavan join them she stated yes because she knows that baam will win against traumeri or atleast weaken him and destroy the immortality contact so someone can kill him .

*She also stated to bam / khun that bring a elder in nest operation* , why bring an elder ? Definitely not to just gain her hell in combat since she doesn't do much except protecting the needle for few min which other high rankers should be able to do themselves

*It was to gain an witness that a baam killed a fh* and to make fug come into an all out war

 

[sazon]

Thinking about it this is the best chance for Rei to have Baam in the family.He is in a level where he is showing immense potential,and he recently officially defeated a Ranker.And yet he isn't that strong that Traumerei can't control him.


If he becomes a Ranker then there is no chance for Traumerei to control him.


But if he manages to marry Baam to shilial or Lillial then he will be a part of his family.

Any children he will have and his wife will be a hostage to Traumerei so even if Baam becomes a Ranker he will never be able to go against Traumerei.Also there is heavy chance his children may become next Adori or Anne/Enne.And in future Rei can boast that he has two family heads,as Ranker Baam will definitely be a Family Head tier atleast.


No one can replicate this as every family has only 1 Family Head,Urek's organization only him, Workshop unknown,FUG no one, even Zahard is only one.So Traumerei is thinking like this.

Honestly, being a ranker is just a title for baam. All it takes to match the 13GW is time, not climbing the tower, climbing is more for personal development than strength.

Take it out for urek, he was already equal to hon before he was a ranker

 

[Jubei_Kibagami]

Was it not already implicit that all heads of families, even with their position, were accountable to Zahard? He may not be their boss, but he clearly maintains control over all of them, so that not even gustang who hates him, would turn against him were it not for the fact that he has the script on his side(baam).

Yes. It's not coincidental that Gustang bit his tongue for tens of thousands of years, until a being that could use the thorn (largely assisted by Gustang helping Baam obtain it) and topple Zahard came into the tower.

You don't have to be a rocket surgeon to know what that means.

 

[Aetherventus258]

But he was not a complete existence as he later became.

And why should Baam fear the existence of Troymerei when he is his equivalent?

Just the fact that he is aware of his current difference is already consistent with the situation.

Baam is not the towerborn, he doesn't have to feel inferior to another irregular.

Yes, the problem is that this irregular, he is one of the 10 leaders, a monster absolutely superior to anything he has ever seen or faced, baam is not equivalent to Rei now either, will he be? Yes but right now he would be nothing more than a fly to him.

 

[Arjuna]

I think the relationship between Zahard and the Family Heads is like what was in a feudal set-up.Have you read ASOIAF or seen GOT? Just imagine Zahard is sitting on the Iron Throne and the rest of the Family Heads are lords of different regions,-North,Westerland,Reach etc.

 

[sazon]

Yes, the problem is that this irregular, he is one of the 10 leaders, a monster absolutely superior to anything he has ever seen or faced, baam is not equivalent to Rei now either, will he be? Yes but right now he would be nothing more than a fly to him.

Baam has seen Zahard, Baam understands his own existence, there is no reason for him to be afraid of Troymerei.

And no, he's definitely not a fly, if that were the case, Rei wouldn't come up with such a proposal.

 

[EternalWinter]

Baam will marry thrice. Once for blood, once for power, and once for love

Yuri, Maschenny, Enne

 

[Aetherventus258]

Wait, we already saw that gustang possibly talked to the other leaders in favor of baam, that means that in the Zoom call they had, gustang was also present while everyone was discussing what to do and Zahard didn't say anything?.

 

[sazon]

Guys, it's clear that SIU projects her personal frustrations onto the story.

He's definitely not going to give Baam a Harem.

 

[Jubei_Kibagami]

I think the relationship between Zahard and the Family Heads is like what was in a feudal set-up.Have you read ASOIAF or seen GOT? Just imagine Zahard is sitting on the Iron Throne and the rest of the Family Heads are lords of different regions,-North,Westerland,Reach etc.

FH : Zahard :: Oligarchs : Putin

Or other Saudi royals : Saudi king

Etc

 

[Anzere1stclass]

Okay, the chapter was great, honestly it was to be expected that there would be divided opinions about the irregular, I consider that those who are in favor of killing him know about the prophecy, and those who are not in favor of it and want to protect him just do it in case it turns out to be true and be in "good terms" with baam, and then there are those who don't care about everything related to it.

But something that bothered me was baam not feeling fear against Rei's shinwonryu, the guy was shitting himself on the hidden floor when Zahard showed him the "monster" inside him, and now that he sees something infinitely superior to whatever Zahard had at the time, he doesn't even react? Even when he said that any sign of hostility meant death for him...? Yes, of course.

It was the same case for gustang and urek bam didn't feel a single fear neither surprised, his fear for Zahard is probably a trauma rather than fear

 

[Turtle hunter]

What makes you think they "let" him become the king?

So your thought is they have ALL kept their heads down and mouths shut for thousands of years just bc they don't care?

As opposed to what we're seeing now, now that Baam has entered the chat?

You know you might not like, or agree, that your boss should be the boss, but if he/she ACTS like your boss and has the title, and you don't do anything about it, changing or preventing your behavior, then they are your boss in practicality AND in title. And you're the subordinate whether you tell yourself otherwise or not.

I mean none off those question matter , i am going to paste what i said and let us where what you say contradict my point .

" Like i repeated many time those who see the FH and jahad relation as a mere relation between a boss and his subordinate are totally wrong .

This chapter show very well that Zahard can't afford to piss other FH and that the cohesion is necessary . "

Maybe you misunderstood my definition off relation "
he way in which two or more people or groups regard and behave towards each other. "

" which two or more people or things are connected, or the state of being connected. "

There is no mention off position , i am speaking off relationship .

Zahard and the FH are many time refered as friend or group or even equal .

So i will make my point clear , zahard is king but they relationship don't seem to be that off king and subordinate . Not only that zahard power also depend a lot on the FH .

If you admit to a hierarchy, then you are admitting to subordination by default.

Zahard doesn't have to rule the FHs with an iron fist for them to consider him their king, irrespective of what they think about it.

Again as far as i remember only Arie and Rei are the FH who we know who consider him as king .

 

[Arjuna]

Honestly, being a ranker is just a title for baam. All it takes to match the 13GW is time, not climbing the tower, climbing is more for personal development than strength.

Take it out for urek, he was already equal to hon before he was a ranker

True this is why,this is probably last chance for Traumerei to control Baam, because if Baam reaches Floor 100 or something like that then there is no way for him to beat Baam.

 

[Aetherventus258]

Baam has seen Zahard, Baam understands his own existence, there is no reason for him to be afraid of Troymerei.

And no, he's definitely not a fly, if that were the case, Rei wouldn't come up with such a proposal.

If someone chooses to treat a fly as a human, does the fly cease to be a human? No. Baam is currently that to Rei, but he himself chose to treat it as a human being.

It still doesn't matter that he knows who Zahard is, the same thing should happen here for simple consistency, baam is not yet at the level to be able to face any leader and that was already proven, so the simple fact that Rei releases his displeasure should already be making baam break out in a cold sweat.

 

[Turtle hunter]

Yes. It's not coincidental that Gustang bit his tongue for tens of thousands of years, until a being that could use the thorn (largely assisted by Gustang helping Baam obtain it) and topple Zahard came into the tower.

You don't have to be a rocket surgeon to know what that means.

It means that Gustang is smart enough to not antagonize Zahard when he has no way off killing him lol ?

I mean you say that FH had to keep his head low but this chapter show that Zahard couldn't even really target Baam because off other FH .

 

[shaheer]

Finally an interesting chapter. Hope bam gets out of this one properly with a sigma level rejection...
What I don't hope for is for bam to muse about Rachel for some weird reason at the thought of mating with someone