Chapter Tower of God Chapter 539 Spoilers & Discussion

Do you think it's better for Baam to work under Traumerei or to stay with FUG?

  • Baam becoming a Lo Po Bia is better

    Votes: 16 14.3%
  • Staying with FUG is better

    Votes: 60 53.6%
  • Equally bad

    Votes: 36 32.1%

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Imagine believing a word out of Rachel's mouth.
And yet Arlene left Baam in a cave.She loved Baam so much that he kept his body from decomposing by using spells and tried very hard to revive him.And when he is actually is revived she leaves him there.Not to mention he is literally devouring many things in the tower.
 

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And yet Arlene left Baam in a cave.She loved Baam so much that he kept his body from decomposing by using spells and tried very hard to revive him
I'd say she only love her dead baby, not Baam. After the baby was revived, she seems to reject him and only consider him a tool of her revenge. Abhorring behavior just like her once companions.
 

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didn't she describe 'outside' though?
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That still means he was successful from a tower-wide war with a lot of firepower against him.
She was originally from the outside,she knew how “outside” looks like and she recorded last message in her pocket that she found a way to leave the tower not that she already left. After recording her message she could have left pocket somewhere and leave the tower.
 

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I wouldn't say they're equally bad options. Baam, as of now, actually has some legitimate influence in FUG. He's moved past the stage where they were controlling him with hostages. Going to Lo Po Bia would be a regression.
I would.

Whether FUG is coercing him with hostages, or manipulating him via Jinsung and Hwa Ryun and whoever else (and they still have hostages like Yihwa). It's a bad situation that won't lead to a good place. They just want him as a weapon to fight for them.

With Lo Po Bia. From what we've seen over the course of the series they seem like the most evil of the 10 families that we've been exposed to. Being his pet is not going to go well either. He just wants him as a pet, probably so he can fight for him

Both of those are a terrible places to be. Though at least with Traumerei there is the potential of de-esclateing the conflict with the other 10 families and move up the tower in a relatively normal way. His friends would certainly be safer too. Though, he's probably going to be harder to break free of too since he's way more powerful than any FUG character we've seen. So really it's a tie for me. They both suck.
 
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I'd say she only love her dead baby, not Baam. After the baby was revived, she seems to reject him and only consider him a tool of her revenge. Abhorring behavior just like her once companions.
Or maybe she saw something in Baam which scared her so much that she abandoned him.Note there is an instance which is quite similar to this.Yura Ha's mother and her son situation.
 

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I don't know why you guys think that staying with FUG is bad.

He becomes more influential every day, some members of FUG won't even hesitate to sacrifice their life for Baam (Jinsung, YHS maybe), the elders are starting to recognize his potential and importance for their organization.

Even Karaka who was his sworn enemy for the entire season 2 almost, now is putting everything on the line to help Baam and protect him ( fight vs Kallavan at the 2nd wall).

Luslec from the beginning was the right hand of his father V, and now the leader of FUG. From the very start I don't think that he had any hostility towards Baam.

And at the very end, isn't it better to be part of an organization founded by your father than a slave of an arrogant irregular with the god syndrome? Who's powers are not even equal to half of Baam's potential. I think that the answer is obvious.
 
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I don't know why you guys think that staying with FUG is bad.

He becomes more influential every day, some members of FUG won't even hesitate to sacrifice their life for Baam (Jinsung, YHS maybe), the elders are starting to recognize his potential and importance for their organization.

Even Karaka who was his sworn enemy for almost the entire season 2, now is putting everything on the line to help Baam and protect him ( fight vs Kallavan at the 2nd wall).

Luslec from the beginning was the right arm of his father V, and now the leader of FUG. From the very start I don't think that he had any hostility towards Baam.

And at the very end, isn't it better to be part of an organization founded by your father than a slave of an arrogant irregular with the god syndrome? Who's powers are not even equal to half of Baam's potential. I think that the answer is obvious.
It is right now. Rei is a little psycho. But if this was a real offer to be sponsored by another FH with no blackmail, then it's a no-brainer. The Lo Po Bia have more to offer him just because Rei is a FH.
 

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It is right now. Rei is a little psycho. But if this was a real offer to be sponsored by another FH with no blackmail, then it's a no-brainer. The Lo Po Bia have more to offer him just because Rei is a FH.
He won't offer him the most important - freedom.
 

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Hmm letting aside personal feelings, I don't know which direction will SIU decide to go... There are a lot of options

As of right now I think a little clash between Baam and Trau is inevitable. I'm not saying they'll have a death match or anything like that but I believe Baam may fight Trau for a bit to let his comrades run away. This proposal is not something Baam can say "No thanks" and Trau answer him "Ok, bye" and goes back home. Even if Baam accepts it will not go that smoothly for everyone in FUG, specially Yama and Hansung.

There are a few routes this can go right now. I'll talk first about the 2 easy ones.

1- Baam accepts
2- Baam doesn't accept

This will most likely lead to the same outcome, Baam winning time for the others to escape. Trau is interested in Baam but he has never said anything about the rest of the people in the nest right now, no one can say he will not kill them and we don't know if Trau would accept not killing the people if Baam makes that condition.

3- Hansung activates the portal interrupting Trau and Baam's conversation.

This can also happen with the 1st and 2nd route, an enraged Traumerai would try to kill everyone and Baam stops him until everyone runs away.

4- Jinsung appears but he gets killed and we get another power up for Baam or some shit like that

I don't care if Baam gets another power up, i think it's unnecessary but i don't really care that much, but this is the worst route SIU can go right now, and i'm not saying this because of the power up. Killing Jinsung right now is like not giving FUG the victory they need, as long as Jinsung survives even if Baam gets captured it would be a victory for FUG since that was the plan from the beginning. I don't think Jinsung dying here is the correct answer and i'm not saying this because i care about the character or anything, i don't care who dies, even if it's Jinsung, A.A, Rak, etc. but i don't think Jinsung has to die in this arc.

The fact that he is going directly to Baam is making me worry a bit but since Kallavan is there maybe something interesting happens.

And there are more routes, specially if we bring Arlene and V to the conversation since we don't know how will Traumerai react. There are also a lot of ways the first 4 options can go, i just gave an example of things that can happen. And someone else could come to the rescue, one of the FHs who wanted to protect or let him climb the tower, the captain, Gustang, etc...

I just want to say that i don't see a clear path as of right now. I totally didn't expect this proposal from Trau so i was really surprised even tho some people already had some theories about this it seems.

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And as I said the clash is inevitable, specially because SIU gave all those power ups to Baam this arc and we haven't seen Baam at full power yet. Yes yes, Baam said this chapter that he would die in an instant but Baam himself don't even know how strong he is right now, he said to Jinsung that he isn't strong as him yet but at the same time he pierced Holan's arms without using the thorns or anything else besides the leviathan. He also absorbed White's power + the power up he got in the fight against White that made him already stronger than White. Lastly, the narrator said in this chapter that everyone except Baam felt a threat to their lives. Sure, it could be that Baam is fearless but even Baam had his reaction when Zahard appeared in the data world, and that wasn't Zahard at full power. Unless It might have been something like Trau's presence wasn't directed to him so he didn't feel threatened? That would be weird but whatever

I just think that Baam doesn't know how strong he is currently, of course i don't believe he can win, he would most likely die if they fight unless SIU comes with more power ups or something but i believe he is strong enough to block Trau's attacks at least.

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Now, letting aside all that there are 2 possible outcomes for Baam:

1- He gets captured(or leaves on his own)
2- He manages to run away from Traumerai

I personally would go with the 1st option but there are a few thing that make me step back

- Will the captain let this happen?

In case it happens:

- Will Zahard let this slide?
- Will Trau make Baam fight against the Poe Bidau family?
- Will Luslec or the other FHs let Trau do what he wants?

The first question about the captain is one of the cons that throws me back i mean he just appeared, i don't think Baam is going to be separated this soon.

Now I want it to happen because:

- Giving Baam new companions to go up the tower would feel refreshing and it would be one way of do what SIU intended from the beginning without having to kill the rest of the teammates, of course they would meet again later but it would be refreshing for a while
- We would see more of the 10 families, mainly the Lo po bia but there is a chance that we will get to meet the rest of the families which we don't know shit about
- This could allow A.A and Rak to grow on their own without any forced power ups when we meet later.
- Maybe some more lore of Elaine's family

And Lilial and Shilial will get more screentime :hearts

I personally thing that Lilial and Shilial have the best designs among the princesses that have appeared until now so i want to see more of them + if Lilial falls for Baam(or both Lilial and Shilial), then her interactions with Androssi will become more funny since those 2 already had some kind of rivalry.

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As for the last thing i want to comment, this is something that everyone already has talked or at least have thought about but i find interesting that from all the families, LPB is the one offering Baam a princess. Since the beginning of the series the LPB have been one of the worse families, specially when it comes to princesses falling in love. LPB Ren killed Anak's mother(yes, it was because she got a child and he is from RED, but he is still a LPB). Then we got the drama with Elaine who was going to be a princess but ended up falling in love and getting punished and now Traumerai is giving him a princess like wtf
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That was a long post huh

I have more things to comment but it's a pain to keep writing
 

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Unless other FH or Urek or someone capable come to the rescue, pretend to accept Traumerei's offer, then escape before the forced wedding take place.

Baam is an emerging leader in FUG, he has the backing of slayers such as Luslec, Yama, Karaka, and White (Vicente form). He also has powerful follower (Cha). If he and his companion can escape Traumerei, being with FUG is good option, he can try to discover the remaining thorns and reform FUG as well as the tower.
 
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Unless other FH or Urek or someone capable come to the rescue, pretend to accept Traumerei's offer, then escape before the forced wedding take place.
Would be interesting to see urek barge in here.but I don't think that will happen. I mean the show is about Bam. Using Urek as get out of jail card few times will make Bam look bad.
I hope Bam finds some way ... Anything really.
 

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Same as FUG, he is chained down there too. Only with Urek will he get it.
From what aspect?

It used to be in the past, but right now is not really a chain to Baam. It's more like a cooperation in order to achieve the same goal, Baam himself said it that he wants to destroy Zahard and his army:

But I like the idea of Baam being part of Wolhaiksong, I like Urek's mindset a lot, he is one of the top characters.
 

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She even call Bam "my stupid god".
"My stupid god" sound so cute
 

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I don't know why you guys think that staying with FUG is bad.

He becomes more influential every day, some members of FUG won't even hesitate to sacrifice their life for Baam (Jinsung, YHS maybe), the elders are starting to recognize his potential and importance for their organization.

Even Karaka who was his sworn enemy for the entire season 2 almost, now is putting everything on the line to help Baam and protect him ( fight vs Kallavan at the 2nd wall).

Luslec from the beginning was the right arm of his father V, and now the leader of FUG. From the very start I don't think that he had any hostility towards Baam.

And at the very end, isn't it better to be part of an organization founded by your father than a slave of an arrogant irregular with the god syndrome? Who's powers are not even equal to half of Baam's potential. I think that the answer is obvious.
I mean, it's a group that we've seen do more terrible things than we've seen Zahard do. White, Karaka, Yu Hansung. All with the stated goal of overthrowing the 10 families.

Yet we haven't even established whether that is indeed the goal he should have much less if it's actually worth the price. Now we learn some voices among them don't want harm to come to him at all and others just want everybody else to leave him alone to climb fairly. Clearly some of those families aren't enemies of his.

The reality is that the whole situation is complicated and he should be able to make his own decisions about what he wants to do. Both FUG and Lo Po Bia have agendas they want to push on him. And either group is a pack of backstabbing villain-y types too. Honestly, long term I hope he starts up his own group like Urek.
 

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LPB Ren killed Anak's mother(yes, it was because she got a child and he is from RED, but he is still a LPB). Then we got the drama with Elaine who was going to be a princess but ended up falling in love and getting punished and now Traumerai is giving him a princess like wtf
Ironic, isn't it? Traum is willing to let go of prized position such as princess of zahard just to tame Baam. On a side not, LPB Ren is Baam's first teacher.
 
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