Predictions Which Family Heads May Join Baam?

[Fiodor Pavlovich K]

Gustang is beyond neutral, he's been fostering Baam's growth and feeding him thorn fragments.

Yup, it's 100% confirmed there is a FH fracture, with some to be siding against the status quo.

True. It seems more like Gustang is using him but for now he would be protecting or siding w Baam regardless.

 

[Jubei_Kibagami]

True. It seems more like Gustang is using him but for now he would be protecting or siding w Baam regardless.

Gustang is the one Rei mentions in today's trans in the his monologue, that he would defy Zahard no matter what happens to Baam.

 

[Fiodor Pavlovich K]

Not sure if we should read much into it, but in the panel that Rei talks about the division is shows a hand with a white glove very similar to Gustang in the 'kill group', a woman hand in protect and a man with black and blue (Eduan?) in don't interfere group.

We know Gustang isnt in the kill group so maybe we should ignore it? idk

 

[zoradante1]

We know Gustang isnt in the kill group so maybe we should ignore it? idk

Gustang is in kill group,though it's quite likely he did this to split family heads. In the first hand panel,it looks almost same as gustang's hand,and this hand was showing killing baam group.

 

[Jubei_Kibagami]

Come on fellas, don't be sexist:

(white-gloved female)

(dogg man with french tips lol)


I joke but only slightly - (cough, Horse' lips this very chapter, cough). Sir Aka says 'Hi'. Subverted expectations and all that.

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The reference/context is some hands (and hands alone) 'talking' with each other about what to do with Baam in ch539.

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Also, real talk, I don't think those hands are necessarily associated with those views. I think they are simply to indicate discussion, while the monologue indicates there were differing views. I don't think those views, as text bubbles, are associated with the hands shown during the discussion at that moment - only that these are views held during a discussion with family heads present.

Now, IF they are absolutely associated with the hands shown at the time of that bubble, and the thought is Gustang is a 'kill' - that's clearly misdirection as he's obviously not in favor of killing Baam, but rather the opposite. So, any of the other votes might or might not be their true feelings.

In other words, that panel should be taken with a tower-sized grain of salt.

 

[Koon Kiseia]

Eduan data said her doesn't understand real eduan but sure gw doesn't believe in fate.

And SIU said eduan had prepared special test with shocking condition that anyone who fought him and win may take everything on the family.

SIU stated Eduan as womanizer and alcoholic. So maybe be loves to fight as well...

 

[Ignorant]

Eduan data said her doesn't understand real eduan but sure gw doesn't believe in fate.

And SIU said eduan had prepared special test with shocking condition that anyone who fought him and win may take everything on the family.

So i guess he Willi neutrao wanting no one intervered with Baam and waiting to fight Baam.

Tho i think be just because he think he's in every upper condition there is.

But i wish bam win, break jus exoectation of himsepf and epse

That test is for the members of his family because he know they hate him lol

 

[Koon Kiseia]

Not sure if we should read much into it, but in the panel that Rei talks about the division is shows a hand with a white glove very similar to Gustang in the 'kill group', a woman hand in protect and a man with black and blue (Eduan?) in don't interfere group.

We know Gustang isnt in the kill group so maybe we should ignore it? idk

I think so too, but i guess the man is Hon. Gustang was mentioned at the end..

Idk who the woman is but probably not Hana. I had high expectation she rarely contacted her old friends. Not Blossom would spoken out loud of her wishes to free enne or something.

The woman would maybe Tperi or Yurin?

Eduan might be waiting to fight Baam, so it's seems most plausible clause to me

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That test is for the members of his family because he know they hate him lol

No that test was for the floor he rules.

In case of Hon be just want 10 minutes but only Urek and Hagipherione pass this.

(Maybe Adori doesn't want to)

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Oh.. the kill one maybe Bloodmadder, he's so scared of dead. Who knows he might be having gloves on his hands, right?

 

[Jubei_Kibagami]

Relevant, Mas notes that only the LPB jumped at the chance to send troops (not even her own Khun or the Arie sent troops??):

Also maybe even more relevant, Yas mentions rumors of the Po Bidau AND the Ha acting funny:

We know assuredly that the Po Bidau are aligned against Zahard. But, why would SIU give us a hint that the Ha are in the same boat unless there's a good chance that they are? Some say they aren't sure that Yurin would do such a thing based on Yuri alone, but maybe she would. Clearly, her family is 'up to something' if Yas' rumors are true (we know they are for the Po Bidau), and we have no reason to discount his intel. Seems like an odd thing to say if there isn't more to it. Where there's smoke there's fire...

Counterpoint is he could be talking about Yuri's behavior where she has to get taken away. Fine. But that's an individual and not an entire family. The princesses have been known to rebel, and no one assumes their whole family is automatically in on their rebellion.

Also relevant, Mas mentions checking for troop assistance personally... well, this one is weird:

She could have been lying for one thing (as she's known to do). But... no troops show that are working towards the goals Zahard has and his orders. None even publicly show at all. While Mas does have 'minions' it seems these are her own doing (and are limited to the three) and less to do with some that Eduan sent, unless ofc he's working with Mas as a trickster against Zahard. What is clear though is that even considering the alliances of families mentioned by Lyb (Khun, LPB, Zahard), the Khun sent no shock troops like the LPB did, as mentioned only the LPB sent any meaningful amount of people. Her minions work against Zahard's troops (as is her thing, killing her own troops lol).

Side note, Mas inadvertently speaks about the FH behavior since Baam arrived, which is clearly fallout from the Zoom that Rei mentioned taking a part in.

Remember Aguero Khun remarking upon how Eduan in the hidden level was completely different in personality and temperament than Eduan in the real world?

I think its a hint being dropped as to something occurring behind the scenes, which has not yet been revealed.

Eduan in the data world might ally with FUG.

But something happened to Eduan in the real world which completely changed him and will prevent a FUG alliance.

Thinking about this some more, I recall from the bios that Eduan is very friendly with Hon. That could be awkward if those two are friends and Hon clearly sides with Zahard as he's pledged allegiance to him while Eduan goes another way.

Of course anything is subject to change now, who knows if either still will remain feeling the same.

There's also Lyb that makes a reference to an alliance between the LPB, Khun, and Zahard specifically. And I think someone (was it Yas? McCage? Cin....) references a family alliance to Mas as well (again indicating the Khun have allied with the LPB), but seeing as that is Mas when it talks about her family it could mean Zahardian or Khunian. But going back to what Lyb said I have to think they were referencing the Khun.

So, unless Eduan is playing Zahard here, it certainly seems like he has agreed to align with Z/LPB. Although he didn't send troops when Zahard asked?

 

[kkck]

Gustang is in kill group,though it's quite likely he did this to split family heads. In the first hand panel,it looks almost same as gustang's hand,and this hand was showing killing baam group.

I considered this but... the scenario sounds strange. If gustang went for a position that would further chaos and rupture in the empire it means the other family heads were probably leaning towards letting bam be basically.