Chapter Tower of God Chapter 545 Spoilers & Discussion

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Alpha's T/L is out, but reading it, it seems to be using Pejaka's T/L

 

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Let's play it out.

- you're the big-brain family that pride yourself on knowing everything there is to know in the tower
- you're thrust into a war that you're very aware of, putting you in direct confrontation with one family specifically, the LPB
- a LPB warp ship, who you again are at war with, appears RIGHT IN FRONT of your family capital ship, which should be your stronghold in occupied space you control - with no explanation at all
- you secure it and find LPB rankers (this is known that they know this much for sure because it is said to Rachel who is also on the ship)
- you then secure said war-time, enemy rankers so that they can not use their hands, but if they have any weapons or other tricks up their sleeves who knows
- you then march these unknown enemy combatants, powers and threat level unknown, in a group where they can communicate and work together if they fight back, in standard-fare restraint that may or may not be sufficient or lacking right down the middle of your ship giving them the grand tour, showing them all the fancy, delicate shit you'd rather they not destroy





And at no time do you scan their faces when you take them into custody, secure their pockets and methods of communication, fingerprint them, do a mouth swap DNA test, or even simply ask them their names for comparison to known identities and risk?



Seems legit.
 

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Let's play it out.

- you're the big-brain family that pride yourself on knowing everything there is to know in the tower
- you're thrust into a war that you're very aware of, putting you in direct confrontation with one family specifically, the LPB
- a LPB warp ship, who you again are at war with, appears RIGHT IN FRONT of your family capital ship, which should be your stronghold in occupied space you control - with no explanation at all
- you secure it and find LPB rankers (this is known that they know this much for sure because it is said to Rachel who is also on the ship)
- you then secure said war-time, enemy rankers so that they can not use their hands, but if they have any weapons or other tricks up their sleeves who knows
- you then march these unknown enemy combatants, powers and threat level unknown, in a group where they can communicate and work together if they fight back, in standard-fare restraint that may or may not be sufficient or lacking right down the middle of your ship giving them the grand tour, showing them all the fancy, delicate shit you'd rather they not destroy





And at no time do you scan their faces when you take them into custody, secure their pockets and methods of communication, fingerprint them, do a mouth swap DNA test, or even simply ask them their names for comparison to known identities and risk?



Seems legit.
Probably they already know that they are BH, which would make sense since they are making them prisoners instead of just killing them, it could even have been a direct order from Gustang I don't know, there could be negotiations and they could be the bargaining chip , anyway as Pudidy has said and this reminding you that he's confident of his abilities, there's nothing they can do there, thousands of regulars, dozens of HR, BH, the regents and they think FH might be there. .
 

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Let's play it out.

- you're the big-brain family that pride yourself on knowing everything there is to know in the tower
- you're thrust into a war that you're very aware of, putting you in direct confrontation with one family specifically, the LPB
- a LPB warp ship, who you again are at war with, appears RIGHT IN FRONT of your family capital ship, which should be your stronghold in occupied space you control - with no explanation at all
- you secure it and find LPB rankers (this is known that they know this much for sure because it is said to Rachel who is also on the ship)
- you then secure said war-time, enemy rankers so that they can not use their hands, but if they have any weapons or other tricks up their sleeves who knows
- you then march these unknown enemy combatants, powers and threat level unknown, in a group where they can communicate and work together if they fight back, in standard-fare restraint that may or may not be sufficient or lacking right down the middle of your ship giving them the grand tour, showing them all the fancy, delicate shit you'd rather they not destroy





And at no time do you scan their faces when you take them into custody, secure their pockets and methods of communication, fingerprint them, do a mouth swap DNA test, or even simply ask them their names for comparison to known identities and risk?



Seems legit.
The only things i could think of is that
a) A GF main ship is a place so secure by virtue of the people usually being in it, that security was an afterthought for thousands of years, if FUG never won a battle vs a squadron, you can imagine a gf main ship
b) GF represent nobility, imagining a branch leader resorting to some sly and dishonorable tactic like infiltrating a ship by getting captured is almost unthinkable for them.
c) even in war times, having 5 High Rankers, 3 of whom around top 300 lvl, travelling together is also seemingly impossible for them.

Still, it's laughable how carefree they are. I guess Gustang cares very little about bugs safety.
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Probably they already know that they are BH, which would make sense since they are making them prisoners instead of just killing them, it could even have been a direct order from Gustang I don't know, there could be negotiations and they could be the bargaining chip , anyway as Pudidy has said and this reminding you that he's confident of his abilities, there's nothing they can do there, thousands of regulars, dozens of HR, BH, the regents and they think FH might be there. .
Seems very unlikely to me that they realized they are branch leaders, let alone High Rankers. They put around them 6 light houses for 5 "unknown Rankers" as Yura said. The guy talking to them also seems lower ranked than let's say the guy who announced the War at the last station.
 

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And have the whole Ha family hunting her
We would have Ha family vs Khun family, we know the two families don't get along
 

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Well, like you I acknowledge they should be close
The question is, how close is that?

Because Gustang speaks my territory, not my mothership, the LPB mothership can only be on one of the floors ruled by the Po Bidau.

I think YHS failed to change trajectory, only activate the wp gate, the issue was always destroying the portal so that it seems somewhere random due to destruction. So I think they are all indeed close to the coordinates of the LPB mothership, mad not on the same floor.
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We would have Ha family vs Khun family, we know the two families don't get along
Really? Eduan would go to war because of Maschenny?
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Zahard gave Khel hellam the impression that irregulars are masters of fate but in fact is just Zahard
And it was only zahard who faced him.
people keep saying the same about the 10 FH..
Is just Zahard with the third eye guys.
10 FH has others contracts that we can see in their childs..
They all got different contracts in differents floor probably in the floors they owned.
That's not it, both Khel Hellam and Sowo are very specific about it, they talk about Zahard and the 10 leaders.
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What if Lilial is really the chosen one?
A character so erased from history to be such a "heroine"?

Nah, there's no screen time like Androssi, not Mas and Yuri's charisma let alone Enne and Adori's hype, even Yihwa would be more coherent than Lilial
 

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Really? Eduan would go to war because of Maschenny?
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I don't know but I believe that she is an important person in the family not to mention that she is a princess of zahard, if Cinera was the author I'm 100% sure Eduan would fight for her.
 

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Well the Tower is quite big and varied, but when it comes to Great Family descendants and Rankers in general i feel like they should know a lot more than what is usually showed about High Rankers.
I agree, but maybe that's because the tower is stagnant, you know?

HJ is so old and disappeared so long ago, it became a kind of bogeyman in the 10 families, a terrifying legend for any "ordinary" member. He's clearly supposed to be a blue hole, but the business is so stagnant that it still remains in the rankings.

So I think that apart from the members of their own family, the big guys are only known by the other big guys.

The Po Bidau family may know about one of the LPB family's top 10, Pudidy, but he's been "on the go" for so long, his looks shouldn't be known.
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I don't know but I believe that she is an important person in the family not to mention that she is a princess of zahard, if Cinera was the author I'm 100% sure Eduan would fight for her.
It doesn't matter if she's important in the family, is she important to Eduan?

We know that Yuri is important to Yurin, to the point that she is hostile to the empire right now.

If she wanted Maschenny's head, who besides Eduan could interfere?

After all, even without her, who could stop the twins? Honestly, until proven otherwise, I have no doubt that the twins (with the exception of Enne) are the most powerful DDs of the 10 families.
 

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It doesn't matter if she's important in the family, is she important to Eduan?

We know that Yuri is important to Yurin, to the point that she is hostile to the empire right now.

If she wanted Maschenny's head, who besides Eduan could interfere?

After all, even without her, who could stop the twins? Honestly, until proven otherwise, I have no doubt that the twins (with the exception of Enne) are the most powerful DDs of the 10 families.
I want to believe that she is important to him, as for who could face the Ha twins I don't know I think the rulers of the ten families must have a minimally balanced power but I do believe that the Ha twins are the strongest since they are daughters of Yurin and Han, but I don't know the regents of the Khun family 😅
 

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The question is, how close is that?

Because Gustang speaks my territory, not my mothership, the LPB mothership can only be on one of the floors ruled by the Po Bidau.

I think YHS failed to change trajectory, only activate the wp gate, the issue was always destroying the portal so that it seems somewhere random due to destruction. So I think they are all indeed close to the coordinates of the LPB mothership, mad not on the same floor.
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Really? Eduan would go to war because of Maschenny?
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That's not it, both Khel Hellam and Sowo are very specific about it, they talk about Zahard and the 10 leaders.
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A character so erased from history to be such a "heroine"?

Nah, there's no screen time like Androssi, not Mas and Yuri's charisma let alone Enne and Adori's hype, even Yihwa would be more coherent than Lilial
it doesn’t matter they were talking in plural here.. they have never meet them.. guy was destroyed by zahard only.. that guy is clearly traumatized for that day bro tou did not see? He was winning but as soon he see baam broke doom spell he gave up.. guy is frustrated by zahard and now Baam at this point he believe they are all like that and that’s not true.
The question is, how close is that?

Because Gustang speaks my territory, not my mothership, the LPB mothership can only be on one of the floors ruled by the Po Bidau.

I think YHS failed to change trajectory, only activate the wp gate, the issue was always destroying the portal so that it seems somewhere random due to destruction. So I think they are all indeed close to the coordinates of the LPB mothership, mad not on the same floor.
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Really? Eduan would go to war because of Maschenny?
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That's not it, both Khel Hellam and Sowo are very specific about it, they talk about Zahard and the 10 leaders.
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A character so erased from history to be such a "heroine"?

Nah, there's no screen time like Androssi, not Mas and Yuri's charisma let alone Enne and Adori's hype, even Yihwa would be more coherent than Lilial
is not the fact that they are better is the fact that SIU stated that the girl he going to chose is going to cause a lot of heart broken.. example Androssi and Elaine hate them twins and they are pretty important i read from you saying SIU say something like they are some key for the princesses arc.
Yuri has never been relevant as much as i like her
Is the true, Enne could be the reason of gustang war so she is for sure, Clearly is going to be Enne vs Adori if SIU is smart.. so yes.. Yiwa has been irrelevant since forever but yes i think she’s better
I mean i preffer a lot other scharacter over lillial
Im basing this comment in what you guys say about what siu say.
 

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is not the fact that they are better is the fact that SIU stated that the girl he going to chose is going to cause a lot of heart broken.. example Androssi and Elaine hate them twins and they are pretty important i read from you saying SIU say something like they are some key for the princesses arc.
Elaine doesn't seem to hate the twins. She was apologetic to them for losing to Baam and spoiling their plans.
 

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It's a possibility 😅
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I believe that among families only the FH and the two people below them are known, it was clear to see that Gustang knows Kirin, but would he know Pudidy or Perseus and their positions? I doubt it, it's like in OP Big Mom knows King and Queen but I doubt she knows Ulti, Page One etc, but the PB family has a lot of knowledge, I don't doubt at all they somehow find out that Pudidy and Perseus are BH.
They knew they were coming cause Rachel said that things are going as planed maybe emily
Told her what’s going on?
Plus that PB member was attacking them by reading that book as soon as he finished they going to explode lol we saw gustang doing this lol
Pd: i found very rude SIU did not provide PB guy name so he going to spent another chapter just to present the guy lol
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Traumerei playing with destiny: so who is you? Lillial you say? Haha i.. i know i was playing to know if you knew your own name hehe “inside thought” ou shit they going find out im not that guy.

Traumerei: Anyway im looking for a princesses get out the way trifle

lillial: … my Lord i am the princesses from LPB

Baam: like -__-“ really men?

traumerei: look smart ass is my first time seeing my own daughter alright? I was busy that day anyway who’s your mother again?

Lilial: lord i was told she die having me…

traumerei: anway im here so you marry this man forget about zahard-nim it was a game from the start so you can kill each other for our pleasure

D*ckless baam: well im not promise you going be happy here hehe

inside baam:

Blue thryssa: listen kid you can use mine just use Transformation😈

red thryssa: hey mann what about me? Come on im bored here..

traumerei reading Baam’s mind “according to few people here he has that power” you know men last time i checked they were two princesses so if you stay in the family you guy can have both, deal?
 

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It's going to be pretty great when Gustang drags everybody on that ship back to Po Bidau HQ and then we round 3 of Rachel VS Koon.

Also starting to feel a little bad for Lilial. She has no idea the mess that has just landed on her doorstep. :XD

I would argue nobody really lost anybody who mattered ultimately. Even Zahard's side. A few characters we never knew existed until now. That's pretty much it. Everybody important got out alive.
Getting piped by an irregular isn’t the worst
 

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Getting piped by an irregular isn’t the worst
It's more just that she isn't existing on the same wavelength as Baam at all. Like, we see Lilial talking about floor tests and such. Baam plays with High Rankers. It's a huge disconnect that she's likely not at all prepared to deal with.

Baam's other Regular friends are people who were generally aware of what he is and what being around him entails, and had the choice not to play that game. Lilial is just getting railroaded into his orbit and likely will not have the option to refuse to do so.
 
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They knew they were coming cause Rachel said that things are going as planed maybe emily
Told her what’s going on?
Plus that PB member was attacking them by reading that book as soon as he finished they going to explode lol we saw gustang doing this lol
Pd: i found very rude SIU did not provide PB guy name so he going to spent another chapter just to present the guy lol
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Is that what it said in the translations? I had seen something like "this is something rare". I think, for example, who can die there are the two advanced rankers, I don't see any use in future arcs, and they're not "valuable" let's say like a BH,
 

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Is that what it said in the translations? I had seen something like "this is something rare". I think, for example, who can die there are the two advanced rankers, I don't see any use in future arcs, and they're not "valuable" let's say like a BH,
Yes, rachel say that in the last panel when Yura say that a ship appear in front of the MT
About if it was Emily who told her im just assuming
Because she was talking like she knew that these BH were coming
 

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It's more just that she isn't existing on the same wavelength as Baam at all. Like, we see Lilial talking about floor tests and such. Baam plays with High Rankers. It's a huge disconnect that she's likely not at all prepared to deal with.

Baam's other Regular friends are people who were generally aware of what he is and what being around him entails, and had the choice not to play that game. Lilial is just getting railroaded into his orbit and likely will not have the option to refuse to do so.
Traumerei could marry them on the spot and go away with Baam immediately after, he would likely prefer Baam to become a Ranker as soon as possible and might feel like Lilia would slow him down anyway.
It's just a political marriage after all, but just for the lulz i could watch Baam take a test with Lilial.
 

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Team YHS is going to meet Wangnan's team :).

Pudidy and co won't be able to hide their identities for long. A.A. and co will talk to Gustang and everything will be ruined for them.
 
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