Games Mafia Game 102 - Genswap Impact: End Game

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Spoiler: Night Actions MG102!

 

[Brandish μ]

Tbh I don't think we can point fingers at the non-swappers because we still left some of them unchecked. But I do generally agree that the mechanic should be exploited to its fullest by town, even if yesterday's effort hurt me.

 

[Evil3ye]

Sorry have a fairly busy day today, but will try to keep up.

• Nobody claimed to have targetted Erin yet, but her role change despite that, is that correct?
• Gry and Shad both targetted each other and are building a mutually trustworthy pair?
• Marmalade and Awkward both targetted each other and are building a mutually trustworthy pair?
• Asako and shino both targetted each other and are building a mutually trustworthy pair?
• Daws meddle into the Tatsu and Sam pair and now builds with Sam a mutually trustworthy pair?

And you guys said the plan sucked, but now we at least have some pairs that trust each other.

 

[Brandish μ]

And you guys said the plan sucked, but now we at least have some pairs that trust each other.

I don't interpret 'them' as saying the plan was bad in theory.

Just their win conditions or feelings do not align with that method. We should not conflate those?

 

[Shad]

I would say this, mafia profits from swapping, but I was sure that some players won't take advantage of this, as they have too much pride to do so.
Which is why I requested trading with Gry or Lambu (there is another very reason as well but can't say it yet).

So I don't want to push Lambu any further, if he is scum he is in a very bad position.
And he actually did respect his follow players by not throwing them under the bus.

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We are missing @Crescent Jinx input to complete the table?
I would think we should lynch non swappers if no obvious swapper is scum, currently Erinyes looks sketchy?

Just to be clear I'm not saying all the pairs are town, they could be a bad guy inside, but it will be easier to find them outside.
By waiting for mafia to kill some of the Pairs, it will make it easier for us to find the bad one.

What do you guys think?

 

[Evil3ye]

I don't interpret 'them' as saying the plan was bad in theory.

Just their win conditions or feelings do not align with that method. We should not conflate those?

Honestly, in terms of the plan I expected some more mafia interference, like that we would have blocked people, dead people and more among the seven pairs.

From the seven so far we only have my own pair as the odd one and sam pair in which seemed to have had a butt-in from the daws.

I expected to be blocked to begin with, which is why I asked Erin to also target me, but the result is not what I expected and is yet anybody to come forward confirm the second butt-in.

 

[Erinyes]

currently Erinyes looks sketchy?

How so ? i came and revealed clean ? if anyone looks sketchy here, are the ones who didnt follow their very plan. and the many coincidental "no results"

 

[Shad]

How so ? i came and revealed clean ? if anyone looks sketchy here, are the ones who didnt follow their very plan. and the many coincidental "no results"

We are still waiting for somebody to claim having swapped Recruiter with you.
Unless a town decided to frame another town by giving them Recruiter?

As the new Recruiter how do you explain this situation?
Are you also waiting for somebody to claim trading with you Recruiter?
If that person doesn't show up, what your explanation?

 

[GrySun]

you think its flimsy because its not the way you want to approach the game, period.

No it‘s flimsy because it is flimsy. Lambu, non-town cannot use the mechanic. Likely intentional so that town can know who is town by who could use it. It‘s objectively handicapping yourself. That‘s not in any way a valid approach.

Or would you also never use your active role if hosts said there‘s a PGO in the game?

 

[Lawl Po Bia]

What exactly is suspicious about trying to save the own skin, when nobody knows anyone's alliances.

I'm really only suspicious of GB who seemed to have taken a cheap shot to take out a town leader who has been propagating an anti-mafia strategy.

@GB what did you do tonight?

Didnt do you, scum , my targetting have been a bit unfortunaye

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Come on guys dont make me painstakingly ask this to everyone. Some info pls.

I would think GB made Evil a mafia from their interaction.

Why would i swap evil i hate being mafia

 

[Asako]

So your role been swapped GB ?

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Ah guess not

 

[GrySun]

Didnt do you, scum , my targetting have been a bit unfortunaye

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Why would i swap evil i hate being mafia

Who did you target?

 

[Lawl Po Bia]

No my target no bueno

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Gadj

 

[GrySun]

We are still waiting for somebody to claim having swapped Recruiter with you.
Unless a town decided to frame another town by giving them Recruiter?

As the new Recruiter how do you explain this situation?
Are you also waiting for somebody to claim trading with you Recruiter?
If that person doesn't show up, what your explanation?

Good question. It‘s an odd thing for mafia to lie being Recruiter, but honestly yeah what does it mean for Erin if no townie comes to tell he targetted her? Weird situation to be in, I see no downside to a townie saying they targetted Erin.

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No my target no bueno

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Gadj

Oh, why him?

 

[Erinyes]

We are still waiting for somebody to claim having swapped Recruiter with you.
Unless a town decided to frame another town by giving them Recruiter?

As the new Recruiter how do you explain this situation?
Are you also waiting for somebody to claim trading with you Recruiter?
If that person doesn't show up, what your explanation?

You're assuming evil is telling the truth? lol

 

[Asako]

Btw why was gnut pushed on yesterday, i wasn't there in the end cuz family meeting
I can understand shad as he wanted to save himself, but why did the others


Also lambu or van, I'm not checking back who said it but didn't one of you day the mechanic should be used for that is what the hosts worked on, yet you end up not using it ?
Or maybe i misremembering things

Evil also fishy because he was the one who did propose the plan yet he saying he didn't do anything today

 

[SirSamuel016]

No my target no bueno

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Gadj

You tried to role swap him? Or use a role on him?

 

[Shad]

You're assuming evil is telling the truth? lol

I'm not assuming he is telling the truth, I just can't figure out who profits from this.
As the main person concerned, why don't you make a post explaining how this could be all evil's plan to frame you.

I'm still struggling to come out with scenarios.

 

[Erinyes]

Good question. It‘s an odd thing for mafia to lie being Recruiter, but honestly yeah what does it mean for Erin if no townie comes to tell he targetted her? Weird situation to be in, I see no downside to a townie saying they targetted Erin.

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Oh, why him?

Maybe bc of secondary role,it's not as
if i haven't mentioned it

 

[GrySun]

Maybe bc of secondary role,it's not as
if i haven't mentioned it

Were you Traitor?

 

[Erinyes]

Nope lover