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[Cosmicstar]

Wendy is stronger than or atleast as strong as Gray. She could just enchant his magic onto herself.

 

[MyaHeart35]

I have a question for you, what was the purpose of fairy tail vs ddsk. What do you think the purpose of the fight was. If Erza and laxus fights showcase them being supposedly above gildarts level and natsu's fight with suzaku puts him close to suzaku. What about Wendy's victory against haku?

The fight was just to show how are Erza and laxus are compared to the strongest of the guild.
Wendy’s was to prove she is high enchanter.
However only 2 knights were compared to Gildarts the ones hinted or implied to be the top 2. It wouldn’t make since for Wendy to jump to Gildarts tier especially without Irene.

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Still doesnt put it on red lightning's level. Casting Gottfried requires Lucy to use a star dress Lucy can only maintain for 16 seconds. Laxus can defeat the entire trio casually without ever resorting to red lightning. Beating Kyria simply doesnt put something on red lightning level.

Hey can I ask you a question? How would you rank Gottfried within the guild?

 

[Axiomus]

Hey can I ask you a question? How would you rank Gottfried within the guild?

As an attack? Somewhere along the level of an LFD/ISD roar.

 

[FireIce]

She could just enchant his magic onto herself.

When has she ever done such thing?

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As an attack? Somewhere along the level of an LFD/ISD roar.

And where would you rank Sky Drill?

 

[MyaHeart35]

When has she ever done such thing?

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And where would you rank Sky Drill?

Just a roar? Or their forms?

 

[Axiomus]

And where would you rank Sky Drill?

Probably around the same level. I dont think Haku has worse durability than Kyria.

 

[FireIce]

Probably around the same level. I dont think Haku has worse durability than Kyria.

How would you compare his dura to someone like Skullion?

 

[Axiomus]

Just a roar? Or their forms?

A roar on the scale of the one used on Tenrou Island. That woulda have defeated Hades without his heart. In turn scales to Laxus' roaring thunder, used to defeat the historia of Hades.

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How would you compare his dura to someone like Skullion?

Haku >≈ Kyria/Skullion

I see Haku's durability being comparable to the trio, erring on better. Only reason I have sky drill ranked a bit weaker than Gottfried is cuz Haku was faking being unconscious for some time and seemed fine later, whereas Kyria was actually hurt and was limping.

 

[Darklord#10]

I think haku's really really underrated just because he lost to Wendy. A little bit serious haku is as fast as light. Haku's the first confirmed character to be able to move at LS. He could just no diff the trio with his eyes closed. The only thing saving gray from not losing is his portrayals with natsu. He literally does not have any feat against any decent character. All his feats against any decent character are trash or x792 feats.

 

[Ratrace]

I think haku's really really underrated just because he lost to Wendy. A little bit serious haku is as fast as light. Haku's the first confirmed character to be able to move at LS. He could just no diff the trio with his eyes closed. The only thing saving gray from not losing is his portrayals with natsu. He literally does not have any feat against any decent character. All his feats against any decent character are trash or x792 feats.

The only thing that makes Haku difficult to beat is his hex, we’ve only seen him fight Wendy without it and she has not shown to be at that level by herself until now. So either Haku not that strong or Wendy grew a lot really fast

 

[MyaHeart35]

Haku seems less durable than the diabolical trio by a lot. Kiria tanked a secret art by laxus( not really) and woke up 2 chapters later. Madmole tanked fire dragon king attacks, and skullion tanked attacks from Mira and Gray. While Haku got knocked by sky drill.
I doubt he could solo the diabolos trio.
Haku also has weak offensive power.

Haku may have said to have light speed, however base Wendy was able to react.
While Erza(much faster than Wendy) was barely able to react to Suzaku and Natsu wasn’t able to react at all at first.

 

[Jko]

Haku is stronger than DE trio by a lot. He is on Suzaku's level there is no way he is physically weaker than those fodders. Wendy is simply just stronger than him and no, he didnt fake being KOed as that literally doesnt make any sense whatsoever. He wanted to win so he could date Wendy and he lost bcs her attack was too powerful for him to tank. Wendy is stronger than Hray until he takes on someone as impressive as a BDSK.

 

[Darklord#10]

Lol you guys don't seem to understand something. The dark dragon slayer knight are not strong because of hax they're dragon slayer knight because they're strong. Haku will just blitz the fuck out of the trio. Wendy simply just got faster. I'm not sure George is very dumb to have a kid be a slayer knight if there were others stronger than him. Gray has zero feats against any decent opponent.
Lucy: defeated kyria and Mimi fought the straus siblings tho she's weaker than Mira
Wendy: defeated nebal, enchanted fodder guild members to take out an aldoron seed and defeated haku
Natsu: defeated madmolle, won against merchphobia, would have won against gajeel if not for levy, defeated wraith defeated aldoron, matched suzaku.
Erza: defeated kyria, matched laxus, defeated yoko, defeated Misaki.
Gray: lost to skullion, had to wait for Mira to chase skullion away before he fought her in a high diff fight, beat hakune, shits his pants in front of laxus, Erza misaki and suzaku. Literally nothing against any decent character.

 

[FireIce]

Wendy: defeated nebal

Irene defeated Nebal with her residual power. Wendy alone was no match for him.

 

[Darklord#10]

Irene defeated Nebal with her residual power. Wendy alone was no match for him.

Eileen? I saw Wendy I didn't see Eileen and last time I checked Eileen has no body

 

[FireIce]

In turn scales to Laxus' roaring thunder, used to defeat the historia of Hades.

Laxus used Lighting Dragon's Jaw against Hades' Historia iirc.

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Lol you guys don't seem to understand something. The dark dragon slayer knight are not strong because of hax they're dragon slayer knight because they're strong. Haku will just blitz the fuck out of the trio. Wendy simply just got faster. I'm not sure George is very dumb to have a kid be a slayer knight if there were others stronger than him. Gray has zero feats against any decent opponent.
Lucy: defeated kyria and Mimi fought the straus siblings tho she's weaker than Mira
Wendy: defeated nebal, enchanted fodder guild members to take out an aldoron seed and defeated haku
Natsu: defeated madmolle, won against merchphobia, would have won against gajeel if not for levy, defeated wraith defeated aldoron, matched suzaku.
Erza: defeated kyria, matched laxus, defeated yoko, defeated Misaki.
Gray: lost to skullion, had to wait for Mira to chase skullion away before he fought her in a high diff fight, beat hakune, shits his pants in front of laxus, Erza misaki and suzaku. Literally nothing against any decent character.

Natsu and Erza didn't beat Madmole and Kyria. Not saying they can't but still.

 

[Jko]

Laxus used Lighting Dragon's Jaw against Hades' Historia iirc.

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Natsu and Erza didn't beat Madmole and Kyria. Not saying they can't but still.

Natsu koed Madmole for a hot minute. Kyria was pretty much done after that attack and Erza went on to stalemate Laxus who fodder Kyria. So they got feats that proved those DE fights were flukes, but Gray doesnt. He was still scared to fight Skullion after their fight.

 

[Rigel]

Kyria wasn't defeated by Erza, she only suffered one attack.

And why are people ignoring the fact that Neinhart was a Spriggan and had non-existent physical capabilities? The only thing Hiro highlighted about Haku was his incredible speed, his stamina was not mentioned. He is similar to Neinhart, but faster.

He doesn't have relevant feats in terms of stamina and physical strength, but that doesn't mean he's weak (top level magic power, extremely strong magic, and above average speed). It is possible to be fast, but not as resistant. There are countless characters in fiction with this archetype.

People want to look down on Kyria when she has great feats in terms of physical stats in the manga. Kyria surpasses Haku in these respects, and there's no way to prove otherwise.

Another thing, when are people going to stop attributing Irene's power to Wendy? Is that a comparison that Irene is in Wendy's body? If so, she it will not be destroyed.

But if it's just Wendy with her OWN POWER, Gray wins.
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Oh my god, I thought this was Wendy vs Suzaku LOL.

 

[Ratrace]

Natsu koed Madmole for a hot minute. Kyria was pretty much done after that attack and Erza went on to stalemate Laxus who fodder Kyria. So they got feats that proved those DE fights were flukes, but Gray doesnt. He was still scared to fight Skullion after their fight.

How do you know if it wasn’t just for a few seconds

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So unless there was some sort of time gap it doesn’t seem like he was down very long

 

[FireIce]

Natsu koed Madmole for a hot minute. Kyria was pretty much done after that attack and Erza went on to stalemate Laxus who fodder Kyria. So they got feats that proved those DE fights were flukes, but Gray doesnt. He was still scared to fight Skullion after their fight.

Madmole was never knocked out by the attack. Kyria was nowhere near done. She had some injuries but was still able to stand up. She was clearly ready to fight.

I feel like I said this a hundred times but Gray would wash Skullion currently. They will never have a rematch so it's time to get over it. It happened over a hundred chapters and it was published in like 2018.

Gray is much stronger than Lucy based on Elentir fights and she beat a Skullion tier opponent.

Lucy was also scared of fighting Kyria but guess who won?